ppl purposefully stalling ToT for grief play

Lunatearz

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason will support here do something about this? They arent playign their cards but just stalling time. Not buying cards from the tavern either or exchanging cards. They been doing this number of times now. I have allready reported it.

Dangranma_Burgrukgad

What if I am just very slow and need to think a lot? I'm not entiled to play ToT?
If the game says I have X time to play a card then what are you reporting people for? Are they using a cheat to extend that time?

ZOS_Bill

@Lunatearz

You can find instructions on reporting players on Xbox in the link below. Our support team will then investigate further.

How do I report a player on console?

newtinmpls

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason .

Unless you are a mind reader you do not know anyone's thinking.

I do not play enough to be familiar with the "other" decks; and many cards from the base decks. So I spend a LOT of time scrolling over the cards checking to see what they do.

You can't see that.

Try a little compassion.

Lunatearz

MrLasagna wrote: »

What if I am just very slow and need to think a lot? I'm not entiled to play ToT?
If the game says I have X time to play a card then what are you reporting people for? Are they using a cheat to extend that time?

that's why I said when it is OBVIOUS someone is stalling on purpose. When you are thinking about your play you are not stalling purposefully just to stall. When something comes up IRL and you are distracted for whatever reason it's not purposefully stalling.

Can I see this? NOPE, I got no camera in the other person's house but the gameplay, patterns and repeatedly playing against the same persons can give you a little bit of knowledge on how a person plays.

When you refuse to end your turn or simply don't even play your cards and let time run out ONLY when you are losing you are stalling purposefully.

Is it so hard to accept that sometimes you can recognize this?

Lunatearz

newtinmpls wrote: »

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason .

Unless you are a mind reader you do not know anyone's thinking.

I do not play enough to be familiar with the "other" decks; and many cards from the base decks. So I spend a LOT of time scrolling over the cards checking to see what they do.

You can't see that.

Try a little compassion.

I have no compassion for sore losers lol sorry

Lunatearz

ZOS_Bill wrote: »

@Lunatearz

You can find instructions on reporting players on Xbox in the link below. Our support team will then investigate further.

How do I report a player on console?

you cant access that menu and report while in ToT when you are on Xbox. IDK how that is for PC tho is that maybe something that could be added? I have reported them numerous times on Xbox menu but idk if that is forwarded to you guys..

Amottica

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason will support here do something about this? They arent playign their cards but just stalling time. Not buying cards from the tavern either or exchanging cards. They been doing this number of times now. I have allready reported it.

I expect the video would not present why they are using up all or most of the time for their turn. Yes, we can make assumptions, and yes, there are probably some players that do use this as a tactic. I am only saying the video can only see they are not making moves.

Zenimax should look for a way to make the time for turns reactive to a player's actions. There is some middle ground.

Lunatearz

Amottica wrote: »

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason will support here do something about this? They arent playign their cards but just stalling time. Not buying cards from the tavern either or exchanging cards. They been doing this number of times now. I have allready reported it.

I expect the video would not present why they are using up all or most of the time for their turn. Yes, we can make assumptions, and yes, there are probably some players that do use this as a tactic. I am only saying the video can only see they are not making moves.

Zenimax should look for a way to make the time for turns reactive to a player's actions. There is some middle ground.

I'm currently in a match with this person and its taking forever!! man... that game was at least 40 minutes which was not needed at all. I literally just don't want to queue up again cause I dont want to match against that person anymore.

Amottica

Lunatearz wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason will support here do something about this? They arent playign their cards but just stalling time. Not buying cards from the tavern either or exchanging cards. They been doing this number of times now. I have allready reported it.

I expect the video would not present why they are using up all or most of the time for their turn. Yes, we can make assumptions, and yes, there are probably some players that do use this as a tactic. I am only saying the video can only see they are not making moves.

Zenimax should look for a way to make the time for turns reactive to a player's actions. There is some middle ground.

I'm currently in a match with this person and its taking forever!! man... that game was at least 40 minutes which was not needed at all. I literally just don't want to queue up again cause I dont want to match against that person anymore.

I was not suggesting there was not a problem with the design. I thought I made that clear when I commented Zenimax should look for a way to find a middle ground on turn times.

Lunatearz

I agree that an interactive timer would be handy I also have suggested that if you block someone you don't go up against them again and a report button in ToT in the console game.

If you make the usernames invisible for the players in ToT but add a report button that makes the player names ONLY visible for whoever handles the reports then it can't be abused. If more people report this person for the same reason, something can be done about it sooner. This person could be monitored and warned.

right now ToT is for me getting less and less attractive.

newtinmpls

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason .

Again I ask how would you have any way to know?

Is there a mechanism to tell me when the other player is scrolling over the cards to see what does what? NO.

Is there a mechanism to tell me if the other player is distracted, confused, thinking slowly, answering the doorbell or baby cry or (in my case) letting the pups out or in.
NO.

I don't play "speed" TOT, and I don't own any of the non-starter decks, so yeah I'm going to scroll over cards of other decks and do my best to win "anyway".

I also don't give up just because it looks horrible. Oddly I've pulled at least two games out of certain defeat just by the other player getting badly bitten by the tavern.

Lunatearz

newtinmpls wrote: »

Lunatearz wrote: »

If i make a recording of a ToT game where you can see clearly someone is stalling the game for no apparent reason .

Again I ask how would you have any way to know?

Is there a mechanism to tell me when the other player is scrolling over the cards to see what does what? NO.
Is there a mechanism to tell me if the other player is distracted, confused, thinking slowly, answering the doorbell or baby cry or (in my case) letting the pups out or in.

NO.

I don't play "speed" TOT, and I don't own any of the non-starter decks, so yeah I'm going to scroll over cards of other decks and do my best to win "anyway".


I also don't give up just because it looks horrible. Oddly I've pulled at least two games out of certain defeat just by the other player getting badly bitten by the tavern.

Sorry man, I'm not here to argue. I said what I said no need to repeat it.

newtinmpls

Lunatearz wrote: »

Sorry man, I'm not here to argue. I said what I said no need to repeat it.

I am here to understand better.

What I understood you to say is that any opponent who does not play at the speed which which you are comfortable must be

1-Going slow "on purpose" (with no other goal but to stall the game)

2-Despite the fact that you have no way to verify what things they are doing in game (such as scanning cards and figuring strategy) or out of game (answering doorbells, checking on the pasta, taking a phone call) you are sure that the ONLY reason for slow play on an opponent's part is "stalling for no apparent reason" (although earlier in your post you affirm there is a reason - to stall the game).

This is what it seems to me you are saying.

Lunatearz

newtinmpls wrote: »

Lunatearz wrote: »

Sorry man, I'm not here to argue. I said what I said no need to repeat it.

I am here to understand better.

What I understood you to say is that any opponent who does not play at the speed which which you are comfortable must be

1-Going slow "on purpose" (with no other goal but to stall the game)

2-Despite the fact that you have no way to verify what things they are doing in game (such as scanning cards and figuring strategy) or out of game (answering doorbells, checking on the pasta, taking a phone call) you are sure that the ONLY reason for slow play on an opponent's part is "stalling for no apparent reason" (although earlier in your post you affirm there is a reason - to stall the game).

This is what it seems to me you are saying.

okay, you must be right then and I have no understanding of how real life works.

btw no one said anything about "a comfortable speed"

You probably don't understand it cause you weren't in my games and matches with this person

But my question was answered that's what i came for