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random normal vs. random vet
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ZOS_IcymodGreetings,
This thread has been moved to the Players Helping Players section, as it is better suited there.
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Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.4 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.0 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.
Anything is better than now. I run random vets only to escape the group killers when on my DD, which is a weird incentive when you think about itEdited by El_Borracho on October 10, 2022 8:25PM1 -
ixthUA✭✭✭✭✭why are the rewards still the same
In vet, you get purple gear drop (deconstructed, it sells well), double undaunted keys and monster helms, all are needed.
When i needed those things for my build, i was doing only vet dungeons. Now that i only need experience, i do random normals.
Also, i never had problems as tank even in DLC vet dungeons - if both DDs are bad i can just leave and queue again (for tank queue is instant).1 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.
Anything is better than now. I run random vets only to escape the group killers when on my DD, which is a weird incentive when you think about it
I do not understand why it is better to promote more inexperienced players to queue for veteran dungeons when that is the very reason why tanks avoid the GF. Considering the current design of incentives, it seems Zenimax sees the same problem with changing it. At least, we can hope so.
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El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.
Anything is better than now. I run random vets only to escape the group killers when on my DD, which is a weird incentive when you think about it
I do not understand why it is better to promote more inexperienced players to queue for veteran dungeons when that is the very reason why tanks avoid the GF. Considering the current design of incentives, it seems Zenimax sees the same problem with changing it. At least, we can hope so.
It is the sad side effect. I wish there were a way around it because I like running veteran dungeons. Run them with guildies and friends all the time.0 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.
Anything is better than now. I run random vets only to escape the group killers when on my DD, which is a weird incentive when you think about it
I do not understand why it is better to promote more inexperienced players to queue for veteran dungeons when that is the very reason why tanks avoid the GF. Considering the current design of incentives, it seems Zenimax sees the same problem with changing it. At least, we can hope so.
It is the sad side effect. I wish there were a way around it because I like running veteran dungeons. Run them with guildies and friends all the time.
True, and it is why I run with guild mates now as well. The experience is much better as the runs are much smoother.
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This, if pugging vet dungeons is very smart to do it during pledges. Same is true for normal DLC as so many do an 5 key runs.El_Borracho wrote: »El_Borracho wrote: »Because it would be problematic to offer a greater reward to a random vet. Less experienced players would more likely to queue for random vet.
Many of us refuse to run with a random group due to skill level issues which is the biggest reason tanks only run with friends or their guilds. This would drive more players from running with a random group.
Yep. But they really should do something to make the random vet more enticing. Undaunted Plunder would be a nice start. What would be really nice is double drops on the final boss, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Plunder would increase the number of less experienced players to queue for the random vet. Double drops on the final boss is not very enticing.
Anything is better than now. I run random vets only to escape the group killers when on my DD, which is a weird incentive when you think about it
I do not understand why it is better to promote more inexperienced players to queue for veteran dungeons when that is the very reason why tanks avoid the GF. Considering the current design of incentives, it seems Zenimax sees the same problem with changing it. At least, we can hope so.
You are much more likely getting an decent group.
Also more experienced players tend to have more friends who they ask.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0
