Carzog's Demise (Spoilers)

ShinChuck

So how about this one? It was a tough call, but I went with destroying it.

trinta

The rewards appear to be the same whichever way you choose.

TwistedRiddlesb14_ESO

Any idea if it changes the quests down the line at all?

Holycannoli

I've been wondering that for months. Does our choice ever make a difference? The quest dialogue suggests it might make an enormous difference, possibly including potential race relations.

Our choice also determines who comes with us to Daggerfall but again does it matter?

Are our choices ultimately hollow and meaningless? Because that would suck. I would hope that our choices open up future quests later on, depending on what we chose. The dialogue suggests what we chose is hugely important.

trinta

I'm curious to know if people who chose to keep the relic were presented with a follow-up where the orcs of Betnikh are joining the Daggerfall Covenant, or if they get an alternate (or no) follow-up.

The one that I got for destroying the relic gave me a follow-up that led to a single low-value turn-in at Daggerfall. It was a little bit of exp and gold, but nothing major.

Holycannoli

I did both choices in a previous beta and both of them led to the same reward of that axe and the orcs joining the covenant.

I don't want to think that a choice the quest's dialogue makes you think is very significant is actually completely insignificant.

Oevaag_Bur

lol. pondered on this for ages in the beta and am having the same problem all over again anyone tried taking the orb but giving it to the elf ?

Holycannoli

Don't think you can. You either destroy it or keep it.

trinta

Holycannoli wrote: »

I don't want to think that a choice the quest's dialogue makes you think is very significant is actually completely insignificant.

I understand this sentiment, but at the same time, I really, really hate it when you end up irrevocably impacting what can be done later on. A quick example from Skyrim, the Dawnguard expansion. You can actually get the totally-not-a-bad-guy vampire that you're forced into helping (No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?) to stop being a vampire, only if you didn't ask her about it before completing the quest line.

So I think my point is, while I do understand that you want your choices to be meaningful, I'm much happier knowing that I won't be re-rolling my main at level 47 because it turns out that I should have given the orb to the Redguard king back at level 6.

Poxs

I think long term effects make your toon more personal. If you made an incorrect choice early on, then put in a way to make up for it by doing something that would make that person forgive/overlook your indiscretion.

Holycannoli

trinta wrote: »

I understand this sentiment, but at the same time, I really, really hate it when you end up irrevocably impacting what can be done later on. A quick example from Skyrim, the Dawnguard expansion. You can actually get the totally-not-a-bad-guy vampire that you're forced into helping (No, I'm not bitter, why do you ask?) to stop being a vampire, only if you didn't ask her about it before completing the quest line.

So I think my point is, while I do understand that you want your choices to be meaningful, I'm much happier knowing that I won't be re-rolling my main at level 47 because it turns out that I should have given the orb to the Redguard king back at level 6.

I understand that too. For me the decision would be based on what the end reward would be. I played another MMO with branching quests with different rewards and you really needed to read the wiki to see which path to choose (for example one path rewards a ship item the other a pistol) The good thing was that some quest rewards you could easily swap for the other reward an an NPC if you weren't happy with your choice. I'm not sure I want to see that in ESO but it would be nice to have the option to choose the other reward if it turns out we made the wrong choice.

Stautmeister

All i know is that sometimes different decisions lead to different objectives (baelborne child)
Im bummed out that they took out the obligatory heist quest though, its pretty funny how those people keep showing up ^^

TwistedRiddlesb14_ESO

kstauthamerb16_ESO wrote: »

All i know is that sometimes different decisions lead to different objectives (baelborne child)
Im bummed out that they took out the obligatory heist quest though, its pretty funny how those people keep showing up ^^

They didn't take it out. You can still go back and do it. You just don't start there anymore. I still think that it is far more confusing to start in Daggerfall and then have to make your way to Stros M'Kai than the reverse, and you aren't the first person who has not realized that the Stros M'Kai content still exists. But it's all there.

warbaby2

I destroyed the artifact... since my char is a Breton Sorceress, I reconned that it would be logical for her to not repeat the mistake of her ancestor. Pity we had no dialogue options to defend that desition like that... it was the obvious choice.

Bunzinator

I destroyed it in beta, and my Breton isn't quite up to it yet, but I expect she'll also destroy it. For me, even if these choices are meaningless in terms of future gameplay, they are valuable in terms of RP character development and immersion.

ryanmc924

I kept the artifact simply because it seemed like nobody else was doing it. I destroyed it during beta, because I played an orc. Now I'm redguard so not as big of a deal. Anyway, SPOILER, it is basically the same either way you go. One way you tick off Kaleen and Lerisa and the other girl. Other way you tick off Lambur, Jakarn, Neramo and the khajit. Warchief is ticked if you keep it but ultimately rewards you either way.

Verayth

I chose based on which characters I'd like to see again during later quests. For me, it was a choice between the ladies or the gents, not the relic.

saki

Is there any major differences in story if I keep or if I destroy it?

MasterSpatula

I played through this on an alt last night with the intention of keeping it this time, but when I got to the decision, I just couldn't justify how my character could remotely think it was a good idea.

If there are any consequences to keeping it, I guess I'll never see them.

Artis

Will we meet Jakarn and others later?

Svann

I destroyed it because it seemed like the choice was alliance with Orcs or cheap artifact that was 50/50 chance of being abused. Probably in the long run the orc alliance would be more valuable. The fact that if you betray the orcs they end up joining anyway is irrelevant to the decision since you dont know that at the time.

Zordrage

this is how i decided after standing there for 5+ mins thinking

if you keep the orb ALL the traped souls will stay trapped all those poor souls...

if you destroy it all those souls will be free....

thats how i decided...wasnt able to decide while i was only thinking abbout the possible future of it......

CelticMarauder

This wasn't a hard choice at all for me. I'm not going to enslave thousands of souls to gain a few cheap victories. Kaleen's, Nicolene's, and Lerisa's justifications for keeping it pale in the face of the sheer evil that object represents.

AlexDougherty

Artemis wrote: »

Will we meet Jakarn and others later?

They seem to be following you, giving you a slight help on various missions, but not anything major so far.

AlexDougherty

CelticMarauder wrote: »

This wasn't a hard choice at all for me. I'm not going to enslave thousands of souls to gain a few cheap victories. Kaleen's, Nicolene's, and Lerisa's justifications for keeping it pale in the face of the sheer evil that object represents.

That was my call too, killing people is bad enough but destroying their souls (Breton King's Ghost told you it devours souls) that is unacceptable.

gurluasb16_ESO

It annoys me how much Nicolene is a b*tch and blames me for everything bad that happened, and she keeps doing it even as late as in Alik'r desert, where she even bluntly tells me to go talk to a wall.

Oh sure, excuse me for not wanting to use the cursed soul-eating artifact
Captain Kaleen at least came around. >_>

Also she keeps blaming me for the death of her brothers.
I don't recall killing them, unless they were cultists.

bill3600

gurluasb16_ESO wrote: »

It annoys me how much Nicolene is a b*tch and blames me for everything bad that happened, and she keeps doing it even as late as in Alik'r desert, where she even bluntly tells me to go talk to a wall.

Oh sure, excuse me for not wanting to use the cursed soul-eating artifact
Captain Kaleen at least came around. >_>

Also she keeps blaming me for the death of her brothers.
I don't recall killing them, unless they were cultists.

I know...she's such a [snip]...and her ideas were like that she is from elementry school


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nosillalouise

SOOO...

I kept the Orb.

The only person that actually likes me now is Captain Kaleen.
Neramo said that he was done with me and Captain Kaleen, Jakarn is parting ways and so is Lerisa.
All the Orcs probably hate me because I also not only took the relic, but I also told the Chiefs daughter to live her life and come with me and explore the world. I know Lambur told me to never cross her path.


YOLO

kali79

I kept the orb.

The only good orc is a dead orc.

Nuff said