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Why are all the weekly endeavors Group or PVP related?
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Mithgil✭✭✭Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
I think you're being a bit dramatic here.
Group bosses; as suggested above you can hang around world bosses and others will be there. As long as you land damage you'll get credit for this. If you've a decent build, etc., you can solo most base-game zone world bosses.
Quests in Cyrodiil; these are PVE and you can do them solo, you don't need to be PVP.
Group dungeons; a decent build can solo a dungeon like Fungal Grotto 1.
Even if you've a crappy build you can just hang around world bosses and just join in when others are there, too. You don't need to group with them. And you may be inconvenienced when running quests for Chorrol in Cyrodiil, but it's not a big deal if you do get killed by opposing alliance characters. It's cheaper than getting killed by NPCs (you don't take equipment damage). Most PVP players in Cyro are concentrating on where the fighting is and not hunting you down.
My point is you can solo any of the above and you don't need to PVP.
By the way, where was the praise for the weeks where they've had like "Collect 100" resource nodes, etc.?
PC NA Yes, I use add-ons.2 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The quests in Chorrol has nothing to do with PvP, you just need to go to a campaign where the zone is in your alliance hands and the risk of meeting an enemy is extremely low.
And please guys stop calling those endeavors "PvP endeavors", no pvper is interested in doing 7 boring fetch or kill some npc quest just becasue they are in a pvp zone.
As pvpers have said on this forum (when people complain about PvP getting in the way of their fishing/dolmens/exploring/whatever), entering Cyro is PvP.
(personally, I've never set foot in the zone, on any character, since I started in 2016.)
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Hapexamendios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Group bosses should be very easy a lot of people are doing them for the event.
The Chorrol quests have zero PvP objectives and are the quickest to do imo. Finished it on both servers in less than an hour. You may run into a player from another alliance, but imo they usually leave you alone. Like you I don't like PvP either.
The dungeons can easily be done through the dungeon finder. It's a crapshoot, but usually you can get it done.
Long story short, you're not being excluded.1 -
whitecrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I jumped around to various different zones today looking to fill in set pieces and there were invariably at least a couple other people at each boss, either waiting or in progress. I'm half done the endeavor already.0 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
The group bosses and dungeon ones fittingly line up with the current event.
Also, neither of those are inherently group necessary. FG1 and plenty of world bosses can be soloed just fine.
… by some people.
Just because something is easy for you it does not mean other people, or even the general player base is capable of doing it.
WB’s and dungeons were intended to be done as a group in any case. They are group content.
There is literally an event going on right now that prioritizes world bosses. If a player cannot find a world boss in the game right now that doesn't have 5+ people at it, they have more problems than completing a relatively easy set of endeavors.
Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I get that there is an event, believe me. But the complaint was about "Group content" endeavors. And two of the endeavors ARE intended for groups, regardless of there being an event or not.
Some people don't like grouping, they like being solo. (I am not one of them, but I perfectly understand the sentiment.)
Also some people play at "off hours", which may make grouping difficult.1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
The group bosses and dungeon ones fittingly line up with the current event.
Also, neither of those are inherently group necessary. FG1 and plenty of world bosses can be soloed just fine.
… by some people.
Just because something is easy for you it does not mean other people, or even the general player base is capable of doing it.
WB’s and dungeons were intended to be done as a group in any case. They are group content.
There is literally an event going on right now that prioritizes world bosses. If a player cannot find a world boss in the game right now that doesn't have 5+ people at it, they have more problems than completing a relatively easy set of endeavors.
Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I get that there is an event, believe me. But the complaint was about "Group content" endeavors. And two of the endeavors ARE intended for groups, regardless of there being an event or not.
Some people don't like grouping, they like being solo. (I am not one of them, but I perfectly understand the sentiment.)
Also some people play at "off hours", which may make grouping difficult.
For such people, it's best to do the world bosses. Someone who can't solo FG or any world bosses is someone who will need other people for the PvE endeavors. Even during off-peak hours, during an event there will basically always be at least one or two people near bosses that are near way shrines. So right now, they are more akin to a public dungeon than they are to group content. You don't need to group and you don't need any kind of a real build.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 25, 2022 12:52AM3 -
jtm1018✭✭✭✭✭I do bg all the time.
Didnt actually notice endeavor favoring pvp.
I run around picking up scraps everyday just waiting my next bg match., killing some poor npc beteween me and grass or flower or rock or a piece of wood, poor thing those poor npc's.
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Kendric5✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
The group bosses and dungeon ones fittingly line up with the current event.
Also, neither of those are inherently group necessary. FG1 and plenty of world bosses can be soloed just fine.
… by some people.
Just because something is easy for you it does not mean other people, or even the general player base is capable of doing it.
WB’s and dungeons were intended to be done as a group in any case. They are group content.
There is literally an event going on right now that prioritizes world bosses. If a player cannot find a world boss in the game right now that doesn't have 5+ people at it, they have more problems than completing a relatively easy set of endeavors.
Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I get that there is an event, believe me. But the complaint was about "Group content" endeavors. And two of the endeavors ARE intended for groups, regardless of there being an event or not.
Some people don't like grouping, they like being solo. (I am not one of them, but I perfectly understand the sentiment.)
Also some people play at "off hours", which may make grouping difficult.
For such people, it's best to do the world bosses. Someone who can't solo FG or any world bosses is someone who will need other people for the PvE endeavors. Even during off-peak hours, during an event there will basically always be at least one or two people near bosses that are near way shrines. So right now, they are more akin to a public dungeon than they are to group content. You don't need to group and you don't need any kind of a real build.
This is wrong, I can do PVE endeavors with no problems but don't do Group dungeons. I might be able to solo some bosses but have never tried and don't want to do it for so little reward that is rewarded for 20 Group bosses. Or completing 6 group dungeons. If I do the bosses solo I should get 240 points for each as I do them.
Edited by Kendric5 on October 25, 2022 1:30AM2 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
The group bosses and dungeon ones fittingly line up with the current event.
Also, neither of those are inherently group necessary. FG1 and plenty of world bosses can be soloed just fine.
… by some people.
Just because something is easy for you it does not mean other people, or even the general player base is capable of doing it.
WB’s and dungeons were intended to be done as a group in any case. They are group content.
There is literally an event going on right now that prioritizes world bosses. If a player cannot find a world boss in the game right now that doesn't have 5+ people at it, they have more problems than completing a relatively easy set of endeavors.
Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I get that there is an event, believe me. But the complaint was about "Group content" endeavors. And two of the endeavors ARE intended for groups, regardless of there being an event or not.
Some people don't like grouping, they like being solo. (I am not one of them, but I perfectly understand the sentiment.)
Also some people play at "off hours", which may make grouping difficult.
For such people, it's best to do the world bosses. Someone who can't solo FG or any world bosses is someone who will need other people for the PvE endeavors. Even during off-peak hours, during an event there will basically always be at least one or two people near bosses that are near way shrines. So right now, they are more akin to a public dungeon than they are to group content. You don't need to group and you don't need any kind of a real build.
This is wrong, I can do PVE endeavors with no problems but don't do Group dungeons. I might be able to solo some bosses but have never tried and don't want to do it for so little reward that is rewarded for 20 Group bosses. Or completing 6 group dungeons. If I do the bosses solo I should get 240 points for each as I do them.
You don't need to solo them. Other players will be nearby and you will get credit for helping them, whether or not you're grouped.0 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The quests in Chorrol has nothing to do with PvP, you just need to go to a campaign where the zone is in your alliance hands and the risk of meeting an enemy is extremely low.
I did these today and I did run into a few "enemies" at the quest giver, but they were there for the same reason so we just left each other alone and did our quests.
As @MrLasagna said those aren't PvP endeavors just because they are in Cyrodiil.Edited by SilverBride on October 25, 2022 1:48AMPCNA2 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »The quests in Chorrol has nothing to do with PvP, you just need to go to a campaign where the zone is in your alliance hands and the risk of meeting an enemy is extremely low.
I did these today and I did run into a few "enemies" at the quest giver, but they were there for the same reason so we just left each other alone and did our quests.
As @MrLasagna said those aren't PvP endeavors just because they are in Cyrodiil.
Again, I am not speaking for myself...
The problem with claiming Chorral quests are NOT pvp, is that players still have to get to Chorrol in a hostile pvp environment. Now Chorrol is somewhat close to the DC starting area, but unless AD or EP has a respective keep chain nearby, it's a long ride to get there for those players. Yes, a player can wait until their faction is in a nearby keep, but that is an unstable and unpredictable window.
Quest givers inside buildings are a prime spot for gankers who attack players and probably kill them as they are still loading into the building, blind to any possible danger. The problem with pinpointing a particular town in Cyrodiil for this endeavor is that it is focusing gankers to that area as they know they have a captive audience (so to speak). It's not like an AD player, can just go quest elsewhere for example, they have to get the quests there at that spot and return there. And if they get killed well, it's another long ride back to just be possibly killed again.
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For a player who is not interested, and thus may be ill equipped for pvp, it's not a great option.
[edited for conspiracy theory/misinformation]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 25, 2022 10:12AM3 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
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Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I wonder if you can do this from the safety of your own home base with the free sieges at the practice range?
Of course, I’d rather kill players and gain AP while doing it, but that could be an option for those who don’t like PvP.0 -
opalcity✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
The group bosses and dungeon ones fittingly line up with the current event.
Also, neither of those are inherently group necessary. FG1 and plenty of world bosses can be soloed just fine.
… by some people.
Just because something is easy for you it does not mean other people, or even the general player base is capable of doing it.
WB’s and dungeons were intended to be done as a group in any case. They are group content.
There is literally an event going on right now that prioritizes world bosses. If a player cannot find a world boss in the game right now that doesn't have 5+ people at it, they have more problems than completing a relatively easy set of endeavors.
Not to mention, as someone else pointed out, the "PVP" oriented endeavor can be done without even leaving your home gates in cyrodil. Just go to one of the saints locations and fire a ballista. Takes all of 5 minutes to do, load times and travel times and all.
I get that there is an event, believe me. But the complaint was about "Group content" endeavors. And two of the endeavors ARE intended for groups, regardless of there being an event or not.
Some people don't like grouping, they like being solo. (I am not one of them, but I perfectly understand the sentiment.)
Also some people play at "off hours", which may make grouping difficult.
For such people, it's best to do the world bosses. Someone who can't solo FG or any world bosses is someone who will need other people for the PvE endeavors. Even during off-peak hours, during an event there will basically always be at least one or two people near bosses that are near way shrines. So right now, they are more akin to a public dungeon than they are to group content. You don't need to group and you don't need any kind of a real build.
This is wrong, I can do PVE endeavors with no problems but don't do Group dungeons. I might be able to solo some bosses but have never tried and don't want to do it for so little reward that is rewarded for 20 Group bosses. Or completing 6 group dungeons. If I do the bosses solo I should get 240 points for each as I do them.
How do you know if you don't try? Its a great feeling when you can solo a world boss. I'll never forget the first time I thought I'd give it a go and took out the Ratmaster on my own. I then got more confidence and went on and took out three more solo - got cocky and died with the last two, but hey ***. 4/6 aint bad
And no, you shouldn't get 240 seals for each. Endeavours coming through like this is once in a while, not all the time. If you want endeavour rewards to scale with the difficulty, you'll complain when you only get 100 seals when there's a 'harvest 100' endeavour. Did you complain last week when it was 'complete 6 public dungeon group events'? Or did you just go to Alik'r and get it done in five minutes like everyone else?
Just try challenging yourself - go for some easy WBs, or do Fungal Grotto 1. What's the worst that can happen? You die? Oh no.2 -
Snamyap✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because it's an MMORPG not an ORPG.
I just solo'd a bunch of dungeons of which my stickerbook was still incomplete, including DLC dungeons. The moment they take that away I will uninstall ESO and never look back. And I won't be the only one.Edited by Snamyap on October 25, 2022 8:20AM1 -
davidtk✭✭✭✭✭Again the weekly endeavors are PVP or group related.
One for group bosses
One for quest in Cyrodiil
One for group dungeons
No solo.
Group Boss = World boss you can solo it if you want and even you don't need to be in the group...
You can solo dungeon too...
One quest in Cyro you don't need to even meet other player...
So where is it a "group related"? Maybe in the name of the endeavor because ZoS can't name World boss right...Edited by davidtk on October 25, 2022 10:07AMReally sorry for my english0 -
ZOS_IcymodGreetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Snamyap✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Greetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.
Thank you for your understanding.
How on earth are we supposed to keep track of a discussion when you can't even be bothered to state to which category you are moving it to? I still had this thread open, but now I can't find it, not in quests and exploration, not in dungeons, not in combat and mechanics? Where did you move it to?2 -
Dangranma_Burgrukgad✭✭✭✭
The problem with claiming Chorral quests are NOT pvp, is that players still have to get to Chorrol in a hostile pvp environment.
Quest givers inside buildings are a prime spot for gankers who attack players and probably kill them as they are still loading i
Imagine gankers waiting for people at Chorrol because of the endeavor
They sit there, and wait and wait. Maybe kill a guy in an hour of waiting.
In the meantime around them people do real PvP getting thousands of AP, having fun battles, conquering and defending keeps, resources ...
But they still there, to kill another guy at Chorrol. So they wait.
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Greetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.
Thank you for your understanding.
How on earth are we supposed to keep track of a discussion when you can't even be bothered to state to which category you are moving it to? I still had this thread open, but now I can't find it, not in quests and exploration, not in dungeons, not in combat and mechanics? Where did you move it to?
Use the "Recent" function of the forums. As long as the thread is active, it will always be near the top of that page.2 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Greetings,
After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.
Thank you for your understanding.
How on earth are we supposed to keep track of a discussion when you can't even be bothered to state to which category you are moving it to? I still had this thread open, but now I can't find it, not in quests and exploration, not in dungeons, not in combat and mechanics? Where did you move it to?
Use the "Recent" function of the forums. As long as the thread is active, it will always be near the top of that page.
I just click the wheel by my profile picture at the top of the page and choose "participated". This brings up a list of every thread I've posted in.PCNA0 -
Kendric5✭✭✭This thread was not posted for players helping players.
This was posted to bring this to the attention of the ESO support staff.
There is no way that I know to give feed back for this game and it really sucks because they should be taking feed back if they want to make the player base happy and if they want the game to get better!0
