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@ZOS_Kevin Looking at some of the ongoing issues of the forums I was wondering perhaps if we could get some quality of life improvements that could make the experience here better?
This is by no means a comprehensive list but off the top of my head I would think that a proper ignore feature that not only ignored said user but also any threads they create or responses that might generate in threads, and perhaps a "Add friend" option for those forum users you wish to follow (upon their acceptance of course) and lastly I would think the ability to list the guilds that you belong to would be a nice feature.....
I'm sure other folks have just as good if not better ideas....but I think these would be reasonable features for any forum. I hope we can all discuss this in a productive manner and see where it takes us.
Edited by Kingsindarkness on September 29, 2022 5:02PM This is by no means a comprehensive list but off the top of my head I would think that a proper ignore feature that not only ignored said user but also any threads they create or responses that might generate in threads, and perhaps a "Add friend" option for those forum users you wish to follow (upon their acceptance of course) and lastly I would think the ability to list the guilds that you belong to would be a nice feature.....
I'm sure other folks have just as good if not better ideas....but I think these would be reasonable features for any forum. I hope we can all discuss this in a productive manner and see where it takes us.
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✭✭✭Vanilla isn't very good at change.
And even the things they can do take F O R E V E R from the point they are requested.1 -
Kingsindarkness✭✭✭✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »Vanilla isn't very good at change.
And even the things they can do take F O R E V E R from the point they are requested.
Ummmm...I don't know I can make all those changes in Vanilla (that's the great thing about open source) without much trouble at all,my experience is the request are in and out in a couple days tops... they have really done a good job of adding features over the past two years...and heck SWTOR of all communities made huge changes to their forums in less than six months...I just don't see the big deal.
edited for clarityEdited by Kingsindarkness on September 29, 2022 5:25PM1 -
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✭✭✭Kingsindarkness wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »Vanilla isn't very good at change.
And even the things they can do take F O R E V E R from the point they are requested.
Ummmm...I don't know I can make all those changes in Vanilla without much trouble at all, they have really done a good job of adding features over the past two years...and heck SWTOR of all communities made huge changes to their forums in less than six months...I just don't see the big deal.
I'm talking about the company Vanilla, the forum software vendor.
They also handled the forum software for Gazillion Entertainment's (RIP) Marvel Heroes several years back, and they were horrible at it.
Changes took forever, and that was above and beyond the Marvel approval process (according to the Community manager at Gazillion; Vanilla was a weak link).0 -
Kingsindarkness✭✭✭✭✭Grizzbeorn wrote: »Kingsindarkness wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »Vanilla isn't very good at change.
And even the things they can do take F O R E V E R from the point they are requested.
Ummmm...I don't know I can make all those changes in Vanilla without much trouble at all, they have really done a good job of adding features over the past two years...and heck SWTOR of all communities made huge changes to their forums in less than six months...I just don't see the big deal.
I'm talking about the company Vanilla, the forum software vendor.
They also handled the forum software for Gazillion Entertainment's (RIP) Marvel Heroes several years back, and they were horrible at it.
Changes took forever, and that was above and beyond the Marvel approval process (according to the Community manager at Gazillion; Vanilla was a weak link).
Yeah I get that, I did a edit sorry I wasn't clear....but that was a long time ago, and honestly Gazillion had its own issues I won't get into.
You can pretty much customize anything you want now ....they had to do this to stay relevant.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think the current ignore feature is just fine. Each of us needs to take upon ourselves a certain degree of personal responsibility. Beyond that, nothing posted in these forums should upset anyone that the moderators would not edit or remove. See something, report it and let the process take care of itself.
Regarding a friends list to follow, create a folder and bookmark the "home page" of such players in that folder. It is easily solved with the technology we already have. This is probably the one suggestion I would suggest Zenimax consider but the solution I posted sufices.
We can place a list of guilds we are in with the signature section already available. We can list our guilds, our characters, our achievements.0 -
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✭✭✭Kingsindarkness wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »Kingsindarkness wrote: »Grizzbeorn wrote: »Vanilla isn't very good at change.
And even the things they can do take F O R E V E R from the point they are requested.
Ummmm...I don't know I can make all those changes in Vanilla without much trouble at all, they have really done a good job of adding features over the past two years...and heck SWTOR of all communities made huge changes to their forums in less than six months...I just don't see the big deal.
I'm talking about the company Vanilla, the forum software vendor.
They also handled the forum software for Gazillion Entertainment's (RIP) Marvel Heroes several years back, and they were horrible at it.
Changes took forever, and that was above and beyond the Marvel approval process (according to the Community manager at Gazillion; Vanilla was a weak link).
Yeah I get that, I did a edit sorry I wasn't clear....but that was a long time ago, and honestly Gazillion had its own issues I won't get into.
You can pretty much customize anything you want now ....they had to do this to stay relevant.
Don't conflate what Dohrmann did to Gazillion with Gazillion under Brevik.
Sorry, I didn't realize Vanilla had evolved beyond what they were back then.
(also sorry for the derail!)
I'll be quiet now.Edited by Grizzbeorn on September 29, 2022 5:32PM0 -
Kingsindarkness✭✭✭✭✭I think the current ignore feature is just fine. Each of us needs to take upon ourselves a certain degree of personal responsibility. Beyond that, nothing posted in these forums should upset anyone that the moderators would not edit or remove. See something, report it and let the process take care of itself.
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Just saying it would in the long run solve a lot of spats and ultimately save the mods time...I have this on forums that I have moderated in the past and it works very well....the down side is if anyone likes forum drama they lose out0 -
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✭✭✭I would love a longer ignore list, and the ability to mute threads so they don't show up in the thread listing.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kingsindarkness wrote: »I think the current ignore feature is just fine. Each of us needs to take upon ourselves a certain degree of personal responsibility. Beyond that, nothing posted in these forums should upset anyone that the moderators would not edit or remove. See something, report it and let the process take care of itself.
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Just saying it would in the long run solve a lot of spats and ultimately save the mods time...I have this on forums that I have moderated in the past and it works very well....the down side is if anyone likes forum drama they lose out
It would seem the person who clicks on the hidden post is the one seeking the drama.
I fail to see how hard it is to avoid clicking on the hidden post when it was one's own choice that made it hidden.
Oh, and the forum moderator's work would still be very much required. Those hidden posts that bash and troll someone who cannot see them would still often be reported and require them to step in.
Good luck with your requests.
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wookiefriseur✭✭✭✭I don't care about drama [snip]
But I agree that the forum could be much better.
The community page and forum are light years apart regarding quality. The forums should be more integrated into the existing portal structure. I wish they would add more ingame things to the page like they did with the crown store (though that one loads 30+ seconds for me).
The news and announcements are very well done and it's easy to find things. But it would be even better if every news would automatically link to an autogenerated forum thread in https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/website-article-discussions
Example for a forum link (removed some kind of button, was probably not important):
It could even embed a small version of the forum thread right below the news article.PerformanceLoading times often are a bit oof (at least for me). 5 seconds for loading a forum discussion and 3 more seconds to load the top bar.Account and Game IntegrationI'm missing some game integrations to make this more of a portal or dashboard with forum functions.- login through account SSO instead of requiring a separate log in
- account infos like guilds and chars (or at least signature/profile images)
- game info like current endeavours, pledges, server status and so on (currently it is done by the community)
- leaderboards and cyro status
- guild trader listings
- guild lists (like the ingame ones)
Because signature images are disallowed, they could provide an option to pick an image, add text or placeholders and display it either in the signature or on the profile.
Signature example:
The forum portraits are a bit lonely. It's an empty canvas. We could display some icons to show info like platform, server and playstyle, class, etc. Example for forum portrait with optional tags:
Current Multi Language SupportNot a big problem, but annoying. I have to switch between languages (English and German) in the top left corner or the url to see if there are new posts or updates:- https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussions/participated
- https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussions/participated
The inbox and post history is shared, also some notifications. But any updates have to be checked separately.
Currently I just treat it as if it was 2 different forums that just share some data between them.Regarding a friends list to follow, create a folder and bookmark the "home page" of such players in that folder. It is easily solved with the technology we already have. This is probably the one suggestion I would suggest Zenimax consider but the solution I posted sufices.
We can place a list of guilds we are in with the signature section already available. We can list our guilds, our characters, our achievements.
The suggestion with following friends is good. It could be something like Steam and friends activity. Don't be content with the status quo. Strive for more. We have the technology.
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 6, 2022 7:05PMHides-His-Nose - EU0