Capture the relic weekend is amazing

Rageypoo

I just got the notification, i'm absolutely thrilled, this is awesome!

OlumoGarbag

Best Game Mode Capture the Deathmatch. The team who can hold onto both other relics the longest while killing both other teams wins

boi_anachronism_

Good luck. With the super tank meta it's gonna be real hard to score or recover your relic if it's taken.

OBJnoob

Its actually kinda cool they're doing this. I can live with capture the relic. Let's do it.

Rageypoo

I don't know how many times i've had to leave a match at the start because I got CRAZY KING and I hate that mode, it takes FOREVER and it's not fun. Domination feels similar too, yuck.

Relic is fast, fun, and i can't get enough!

GlassHalfFull

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

DrNukenstein

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

Don't worry about the relic. Identify the weak team, and gank them at their spawn all game.

Dem_kitkats1

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

Simply become a training dummy. Let players practice their parsing on you until they become irritated or bored. For a challenge do it at a relic base.

FlopsyPrince

DrNukenstein wrote: »

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

Don't worry about the relic. Identify the weak team, and gank them at their spawn all game.

What a great way to encourage players to try and attempt to learn PvP! Getting repeatedly ganked is so much fun, right?

SkaraMinoc

Glad you're enjoying Capture the Relic weekend but this is the least fun I've had since I've started playing ESO.

OBJnoob

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

I guess I'm the only person who actually enjoys all the game modes so, at the risk of sounding arrogant, ignore all the other answers and listen to me. Lol.

There's a little shrine or whatever at the base of each teams spawn point where their respective relics spawn. You need to run over and press A (on Xbox,) to start about a 3 second interruptible channel to pick it up. Once you have it you run back to your own relic... Yes it has to be there... And turn theirs in for 100 points. First to 500 wins.

Its not uncommon to have multiple relics being held by opposing teams at the same time... So nobody is scoring until someone gets gutsy enough to do what needs to be done. How to handle that is up to you and the individual situation.

Leaving 1 capable defender home while the other 3 try to relic run is probably the most used strategy. But you also see the opposite... 3 people defending while one fast or sneaky person tries to capture.

Generally one team is noticeably weaker than the rest and the other two teams fight over who can take the weak teams relic over and over.

While it is fun and lots of people enjoy just fighting, if you want to win you will need to make sure you aren't getting caught up for too long in battles where people aren't dying and relics aren't being captured.

PhoenixGrey

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

If one is new to battle grounds and capture the relic, what is the minimum I need to know to have fun in there?

You cant have fun as there is no PVP combat in battlegrounds

But you can play the objective which is like running from one point to another. If you are fast enough you might win

OBJnoob

I think there's been a mistake @PhoenixGrey you meant to talk with GlassHalfEmpty. I'll take it from here.

PhoenixGrey

OBJnoob wrote: »

I think there's been a mistake @PhoenixGrey you meant to talk with GlassHalfEmpty. I'll take it from here.

You can't . You are busy running from relic to relic

I am pretty sure almost everyone in objective BG's have no idea what is the objective about. Why would they ? What exactly is fun about running from relic to relic

RebornV3x

I'm having fun not taking it too seriously with some bow gank blade i made for the lols

Ye_Olde_Crowe

I thoroughly enjoy Capture the Relic. And the other objective modes. So far the event has been fun.

gariondavey

With 2 teams capture the relic COULD be a ton of fun.
With 3 teams it is just a game of "avoid conflict and run a movespeed trolltank and end games in 3 minutes"

Warsong gulch in wow back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk was fun [snip] 2 teams though.

[edited for profanity bypass]

CameraBeardThePirate

There are two big issues with Capture the Relic:

1) 3 relics just doesn't work. Against competent DM'ers, you can't afford to send only 1 or 2 teammates to cap, because odds are they won't be able to win the 2v3 or 2v4. If you send more than 2, then your relic will get capped by someone sitting in stealth waiting for you to leave.

2) There are far too many ways to bug/cheese this game mode. 1st, you can run a max movespeed build and there's nothing anyone can do to catch you because there's no snare on the relic. 2nd, you can abuse immovable potions or any of the sets that allow you to auto dodge attacks to take the relic without an enemy being able to interrupt you. This means that someone can slot one of these sets, sneak/run in invis up to the relic, and grab it without any of the defenders being able to do anything. Finally, you can completely break the relic with certain ults and abilities, preventing anyone from being able to grab it and in some cases allowing you to get the relic into your own spawn.

There should probably only be 1 relic, with a snare, and slightly different capture rules/conditions. This would force people to fight each other more often, and would also allow for more teamwork since you would have to escort the snared relic carrier back to your base.

GrigorijMalahevich

why are you excited about capture the relic?

draigwyrdd

gariondavey wrote: »

With 2 teams capture the relic COULD be a ton of fun.
With 3 teams it is just a game of "avoid conflict and run a movespeed trolltank and end games in 3 minutes"

Warsong gulch in wow back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk was fun [snip] 2 teams though.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Three teams with one relic could be fun. You have to fight for the relic, then. As it is relic is just really unbalanced.

OBJnoob

@PhoenixGrey Ha! Good one, and thanks for taking my jab in good spirits.

In general... I don't know if its a platform thing, an MMR thing, or if maybe we're all a little bit guilty of exaggeration... But... I can tell you that I've been very pleased with my battlegrounds experience lately no matter what mode I've gotten. Where I play people seem to honor the mode enough where it at least isn't immediately obvious if they are unhappy about it. Games are competitive among two teams if not three. Queues aren't excessive. You can play the obj and still fight.

I've been running my warden thus far and am tanky (not maras or pariah tanky but still,) enough to hold the chaos ball, fast enough to run a relic, and damaging enough to kill most people.

If I have the chaosball my preferred method is to self heal and run... So yes I am guilty of that. If my team is with me I'll try to hold it at our spawn instead. If I'm running from two enemies but my teammates come help I do turn and fight rather than let them die. The chaosball eventually kills me or someone else kills me... In which case I run back to the fight and fight until I get the ball again. I in no way feel as though I spent the whole time avoiding fights and my score (not just medal score but k/d,) reflects that.

In capture the relic I will stay and defend if nobody else is doing it. Mostly I randomly pick one team and try to get their relic... Depending on their defensive efforts and how much help I'm getting I'll try the other side to see who's weakest. It is a common occurance that maybe my team is doing fine but one of the other teams is doing a better job of getting the other relic than we are. In which case I'll go squat on the red relic and help them kill purple or whatever. I've frequently seen one team pick up another relic besides my own and sprint across the map, kill them, and take it for myself.

In domination and crazy king there seems to be an appropriate level of fighting on flags that I take part in. And when a fight involves 4+ people and is stalemating yes I do sprint off and find a new flag instead.

I firmly disagree that having 3 teams takes away strategy. It introduces more chaos, and sometimes you can't control it, but to me that makes strategy more important not less, and those that can change their strategies mid-stride as the situations change are who really prevail. I also enjoy the viability of a greater variety of build than would succeed at deathmatch.

That being said, honestly, no I don't like being forced to play the same mode for 3 days straight. But I can deal.

I hope everyone has fun... The more you try to have fun the more you will have. And for those that are very displeased I am sorry.

grkkll

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

Good luck. With the super tank meta it's gonna be real hard to score or recover your relic if it's taken.

Came across this uild once and its a total spoiler

the1andonlyskwex

draigwyrdd wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

With 2 teams capture the relic COULD be a ton of fun.
With 3 teams it is just a game of "avoid conflict and run a movespeed trolltank and end games in 3 minutes"

Warsong gulch in wow back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk was fun [snip] 2 teams though.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Three teams with one relic could be fun. You have to fight for the relic, then. As it is relic is just really unbalanced.

Isn't that just chaosball?

CameraBeardThePirate

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

draigwyrdd wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

With 2 teams capture the relic COULD be a ton of fun.
With 3 teams it is just a game of "avoid conflict and run a movespeed trolltank and end games in 3 minutes"

Warsong gulch in wow back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk was fun [snip] 2 teams though.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Three teams with one relic could be fun. You have to fight for the relic, then. As it is relic is just really unbalanced.

Isn't that just chaosball?

Well no, chaosball is hold onto something as long as you can, and the proposed single relic would be "grab that and get it to our base as fast as we can"

Dr_Con

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

draigwyrdd wrote: »

gariondavey wrote: »

With 2 teams capture the relic COULD be a ton of fun.
With 3 teams it is just a game of "avoid conflict and run a movespeed trolltank and end games in 3 minutes"

Warsong gulch in wow back in vanilla/tbc/wotlk was fun [snip] 2 teams though.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Three teams with one relic could be fun. You have to fight for the relic, then. As it is relic is just really unbalanced.

Isn't that just chaosball?

Well no, chaosball is hold onto something as long as you can, and the proposed single relic would be "grab that and get it to our base as fast as we can"

Isn't that just chaosball?

Dem_kitkats1

Dr_Con wrote: »

Isn't that just chaosball?

With the amount of people that don't return relics to bases in order to troll, or stall the game and farm, it would definitely turn into that.

SkaraMinoc

I never want to play Capture the Relic again after this weekend.

gariondavey

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

I never want to play Capture the Relic again after this weekend.

I just didn't queue at all.
I didn't want to be disappointed by 2 min games with 15 minute queues.
If only zos just didn't let the old random queue be connected with dm...half our problems would be solved

Rageypoo

I'm sad it's over, but man was that fun!

gamma71

The only good thing was I got my last achievement there I'll never play it again.

Baconlad

Had this super tank. Three of us couldn't kill him. He had our relic. He positioned himself while blocking to the green side ...right next to the drop off...and there it was, a golden spear launched with godlike strength. Breaking his block and casting him down. Hit smacked the ground dead, our relic floating above.

About the only good thing that match the rest of the match he was a pain. Barely died. But held relics like a champ