Would you like the idea of a Solo version for ESO Dungeons?

Scaletho

Solo players are an old reality in ESO. Many players prefer the challenge to confront in solo mode the dangers and monster of all Dungeons, but sometimes ZOS dungeon's mechanics is specifically intended to avoid the solo progress in favor of the group's one. After all, the Dungeons are made for groups. Events like the Undaunted Celebration represent a frustration for many players who don't like/don't have good characters builds/had a terrible experience with dungeon groups. And, of course, for the "professional" Solo players many dungeons prove to be very hard or impossible to be completed due to frustrating group mechanic. So I just wish to know your opinion about the subject. I know, ESO has two "solo arenas". But arenas are not the same as dungeons, and the solo players interest is the challenge to play other aspects of the game.

AvalonRanger

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I want solo mode. But I need solo secret switch unlock gimmick also.
Some of secret searching can't do solo.( pressure switch or lever)

AcadianPaladin

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

I would like to see the following for group dungeons: When you enter, you are prompted for the number of players the dungeon should scale for (1-4) regardless if you are a party of 1,2,3 or 4. More flexibility is a good thing and since ZoS has said they want to improve 'accessability', this would certainly do that better than U35 did.

I would further like to see the following for delves and public dungeons: When you enter, you are prompted public/private. If you choose private, then the dungeon is instanced to just you (and your party if you have one). Both delves and public dungeons are too darn crowded!

Snamyap

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I don't mind the difficulty, leaves something to strive for. But I could certainly do without the blocking mechanics. Question about "solo" though: with or without companion? The two arena's are without after all.

tomofhyrule

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I'd love a solo mode.

Norm is pretty well soloable, even on my full tank build, except for those dungeons that have pin or lever mechanics. All I'd want to have would be to make it so you don't need to stand on the Direfrost plates at the same time or have a check that prevents Malubeth's pin in Wayrest II if you're solo.

...or give us the ability to tell companions to 'activate' or 'interrupt' so they can free us. Or even have it so the companion will get targeted by the pin mechanics.

What I'd really like though is for them to make the quests repeatable the way trial quests are. The newer DLC dungeons are pretty good about that, but the basegame ones can have pretty decent differences between on-quest and off-quest runs, and so few people get to see and experience the stories there since you're expected to spam 'E' through the dialogue if you want to keep up with the group.

FluffyReachWitch

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

My biggest frustration is with mechanics such as the floor plates in Direfrost Keep, and the mandatory headcount on secret bosses in some of the newer dungeons (see: the entire Blackwood year).

However, I wouldn't say no to the opportunity to try specially designed solo veteran dungeons.

Parasaurolophus

No. Dungeons are for groups only. Go to the Dungeon Finder and get in line!

No. It looks attractive, but in the long run it would be bad for the game.

Snamyap

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

or have a check that prevents Malubeth's pin in Wayrest II if you're solo.

...or give us the ability to tell companions to 'activate' or 'interrupt' so they can free us. Or even have it so the companion will get targeted by the pin mechanics.

Give companions one or two skills that can interrupt would go a long way. The sword and board charge skill has a stun, but a minimum range of 7m so pointless most of the time. Or do the off balance skills interrupt? Have to check that some day.

SilverBride

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

No. It looks attractive, but in the long run it would be bad for the game.

Why would it be bad for the game? A lot of players solo dungeons now because they don't want to deal with the toxicity of groups. Those kind of groups are what is bad for the game.

Kingsindarkness

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I'm going to break my usual and actually vote on this one....

I would like to see:

A premade group mode for public dungeons (Two or more people with companions that scales)

• A story mode for trials One to Four players with companions (I mean just think how many more people would actually use all of this exclusive content that cost so much to make?)
• A story mode for Dungeons (same rules as trials)
• And a nightmare solo mode for all the above.

Rewards would be cosmetics motifs and overland set pieces.

Yes this would anger the raiding community...but it would make the other 98% of the player base happy. Between Cyrodiil and all of the Raid content there is so much unused areas...it is illogical to reserve this for a select few.

I'm confident that sooner or later this or something close to this will happen....I mean look how long it took them to let you hide the flappy birds?

@ZOS_RichLambert would really like it if you weighed in on this or at least do a /lurk

Klingenlied

What? Are you insane? This is ridiculous.

Scaletho wrote: »

Solo players are an old reality in ESO. Many players prefer the challenge to confront in solo mode the dangers and monster of all Dungeons, but sometimes ZOS dungeon's mechanics is specifically intended to avoid the solo progress in favor of the group's one. After all, the Dungeons are made for groups. Events like the Undaunted Celebration represent a frustration for many players who don't like/don't have good characters builds/had a terrible experience with dungeon groups. And, of course, for the "professional" Solo players many dungeons prove to be very hard or impossible to be completed due to frustrating group mechanic. So I just wish to know your opinion about the subject. I know, ESO has two "solo arenas". But arenas are not the same as dungeons, and the solo players interest is the challenge to play other aspects of the game.

Actually, Solo Dungeons would be ok. Though I kinda don't care. Or to say it differently: I would want for more challenging content. Not for even more soloable casual boredom.

wolfie1.0.

No. Dungeons are for groups only. Go to the Dungeon Finder and get in line!

Eso is intended to be a social game. If that were not the case then we would be playing TES VI and not ESO. I do not say this as a slight on solo players. I prefer it sometimes as well.

I believe dungeons should remain as they are. A lot of content is set up for single play already and VA and MA exist, and almost all story quests are solo play. We are due for a new solo arena or similar style of feature though which would be nice.

But honestly, I would like to see some content designed dous and trios. As well as mini trials designed for groups of 6 - 8 before we see this.

I had dreams of a 24 person trial but alas I feel that will remain a dream...

Kingsindarkness

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Eso is intended to be a social game.

Just throwing this out there...I am an extremally social player, but I will not partake in Raid/PVP/Dungeon culture as I have found it to be extremely toxic, and it just brings out the worst in people...

And for better or worse it was Zenimax that came out with the whole "Play how you Want" campaign.

I don't think that adding something for one group of players will take anything away from others...and if it does...well that would be a whole other conversation.

Snamyap

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

Snamyap wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

or have a check that prevents Malubeth's pin in Wayrest II if you're solo.

...or give us the ability to tell companions to 'activate' or 'interrupt' so they can free us. Or even have it so the companion will get targeted by the pin mechanics.

Give companions one or two skills that can interrupt would go a long way. The sword and board charge skill has a stun, but a minimum range of 7m so pointless most of the time. Or do the off balance skills interrupt? Have to check that some day.

Just did some simple testing on trolls. They wouldn't use their regeneration channel when I let Isobel use her off balance charge skill (gallant blitz). Ember's stun skill (trickster's trap) did nothing there.

SilverBride

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Eso is intended to be a social game.

Where does it say this?

And who defines what is social? I don't have to be doing the same activity as another player to be social. I chat with friends throughout my playtime. I consider that social.

Scaletho

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

FluffyReachWitch wrote: »

My biggest frustration is with mechanics such as the floor plates in Direfrost Keep, and the mandatory headcount on secret bosses in some of the newer dungeons (see: the entire Blackwood year).

However, I wouldn't say no to the opportunity to try specially designed solo veteran dungeons.

Well, Direfrost Keep is soloable if you have a good nightblade or Werewolf Character... But you're right about the newer dungeons.

Ksariyu

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

There's two major reasons I believe solo dungeons would be a good idea.

First and foremost, I feel like a lot of players get intimidated by doing dungeons for the first time in a group. Nobody wants to feel like they're being judged every time they make a mistake, and especially given that this is an online game and people aren't always the most civil, it's a pretty fair concern. Giving players the time and space to fail on their own and learn the mechanics at their own pace I think would greatly help ease the transition into group content. Even more, a player will learn the mechanics much better when they have to deal with all of them alone, rather than perhaps getting to ignore a mechanic because either it doesn't pertain to their role or their pug group is just burning through them too fast.

The second reason is that many new players never get to properly experience dungeons anymore. Especially if your first venture into group content is through the Group Finder, it's likely your memory of that content will just be a blur of sprinting down hallways and occasionally throwing an attack or heal down at some nameless boss. I know that for myself, I never really appreciated the design and stories in any of the base game dungeons until I started soloing them. Being able to read all the dialogue, taking the intended path (See: FG1 or CoA2), and learning how all the bosses tie into the story and the location really makes the content feel more satisfying and immersive.

Jaraal

Just leave them as they are, but remove the gimmicky 2+ person mechanics. If a player is good enough to solo a dungeon, he shouldn't be artificially gated from completing it by developer design. Especially since there is no consistency. Some original dungeons are extremely difficult to finish solo, while other newer DLC dungeons are easy to do.

Arthtur

Add Story mode for Dungeons and at the same time some kind of Veteran Overland. Casual players will be happy for solo dungeons and veteran players will be happy for more challenging quests/bosses in overland.

estelrandir

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

As someone who recently moved from NA to EU for a fresh start, I have to say that I'd really love the idea of solo dungeons, or at least a story mode.

Granted, it was my mistake to start fresh during a dungeoneering event, but the number of times that I hit Dungeon Finder, just to repeatedly end up in FG1 runs that run hell for leather to the end.

IDK. I'd like to see the story for these at least once.

Artim_X

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

Essentially story mode dungeon. Also make dungeon story quests dailies, so players can redo them at their leisure.

If ZOS doesn’t want to make a solo version of dungeons, the alternative is for ZOS to teach companions how to automatically engage with group mechanics that hinder progress or kills the player. Easiest way to do this is by making one shot mechanics that locks down a target to always target the companion even if the one shot is based on who has aggro. For puzzle mechanics if I pull a lever, my companion will automatically attempt to pull the other lever (if I step on a ground plate then my companion steps one as well).

kieso

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

Yeah thatd be awesome.

bmnoble

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

Would need to balance them for one player though for a story mode version so that people could complete the quests at their own pace, preferably turn off all of the group focused mechanics.

As for drops from them doing them, set pieces should not be that big of an issue since your only getting one players worth of gear maybe limit them to dropping in green quality. Leads should still drop for antiquities.

And not solo as in solo arena's players should still be able to take their companion if they want maybe even make those instances let you have 3 companions out all at once, while just getting rid of the mechanics and leaving the difficulty as is.

Amottica

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

With the dungeons that are part of the year long story a solo version for normal version of those dungeons should have been created from the start. As it is Zenimax is forcing players To group for a story that is otherwise designed to be solo.

The current design doesn’t make any sense and I’m a player that is accustomed to grouping for group content.

I am merely advocating for the dungeons that are tied to the annual chapter story but find no reason to object to Zenimax doing this for all normal versions. As for a solo vet version, it’s not needed since the purpose of a solo version is to see the story and that’s the only justifiable reason.

Tenthirty2

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

Even tho I answered the way I did I'm kinda on the fence with this topic.

I love soloing dungeons, they are some of the coolest content in the game IMO.
But I accept the fact that there are some that I cannot do bcuz of progression blocks due to mechanics.
I'm ok with that.
If ZOS would add this option I think it would be cool if for nothing else than to experience the dungeon's story. So an option to let soloists bypass multi-person switch-locked gates, etc would be alright I guess.

Or bosses with unavoidable one shots than need more than one person to finish.
And I'm not talking about skill-wise. If I haven't learned yet to stay out of the bad red circle in a bossfight and get 1s that's on me.
I'm talking about some bosses that get to a certain point in the battle and then do the magic Thanos snap of death on "one random player"...

A solo mode would also raise questions for things like achievements. Bcuz even tho you did the dungeon in solo mode you still had it a bit easier than a group of 4 players who HAD to deal with whatever boss's 1s ability, etc. So does the soloist get the same achievement? A new "solo" level achievement, IDK.

Anyway, I highly doubt we would ever see this implemented.
You also have to figure if they allow it for dungeons within a month we would see similar requests for trials. And then more requests for a "solo Cyrodiil", etc

It's a MMO and the devs have designed certain content to be GROUP content bcuz: MMO and I think that's fine really.

Ragnarok0130

No. Dungeons are for groups only. Go to the Dungeon Finder and get in line!

I'd be all right with a solo mode only if there were no rewards, no skill points, no motif drops, no monster helms, no credit for the Undaunted event, etc for the completion of solo mode just so the people who want to experience the story can. If you want the goodies you have to play the content the way it was intended.

Drammanoth

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I hate the head-on rushing through the dungeons, especially ones that have a beautiful graphic design - so pretty much every dungeon

If there was one, I'd gladly do them. Otherwise I rush head on like a madmer and don't care about others.

Auldwulfe

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

I voted yes ... I play at odd hours, due to work, and as I work as a medical patient care coordinator, sometimes I just don't have the energy out of work to deal with more people......

I believe that it should be an option you can choose.... to take a dungeon solo, or to try and solo the group one.

Auldwulfe

SeaGtGruff

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

I would love to be able to solo every dungeon, so I voted for the first option.

However, that doesn't mean I want any changes made to the existing dungeons, because I realize that dungeons are intended to be content which generally requires two or more players to clear. And I'm okay with there being some content that's beyond me at any given time, because it gives me something to shoot for as a future goal.

KaosWarMonk

Yes, both normal and veteran modes.

More than anything I want to be able to solo all the dungeons, one to do the story and two for the challenge. I enjoy the challenge of doing the base game ones and it really irks me that I can't do the same with most the rest of them.

If I could wave a wand I'd have the following difficulty options on all dungeons:

story - roughly the same as a delve
solo - roughly the same as public dungeons
solo veteran - what group dungeons are like now with nothing that requires multiple players (or mbe code companions to do it)
group - same as current group dungeons
group veteran - same as current veteran dungeons

And scale loot accordingly. Edit - and have separate achievements for each level

It's a huge let down that I can't access all the content in the group dungeons. Considering these are released every year it's a lot of content that players like me are missing out on.

Nestor

Yes. But solo dungeons should be only in normal mode.

We had a Solo mode before. Doing normal dungeons with Vet Characters before 1Tamriel. We got no drops, but would get the Skill Point and Achievement. Back when Achievements mattered.

Make a choice to go Story mode, make combat like base zone public dungeons, only trash drops, no set items or Monster drops, and the skill point.