Where do the scrolls go?

ezmaye

Hi!

Everytime a scroll gets picked up there is always a very heated debate in zone chat about where they should go. (I play EP, GH PCN

I'm still getting my head around it but are there actual 'unspoken' rules around this or are their valid reasons to place scrolls in certain keeps?

ForumBully

Zone chat is for non stop backseat driving. There has never been a scroll configuration that stopped opponents from taking them whenever the zerg reached a significant size. It's what passes for "strategy" on the checkerboard that is Cyrodiil.

dogshaman

This one has found that most people prefer to place another faction's scroll in the keep farthest from the enemy.

This will not only give you more time to discover the enemies traveling through your territory, but also more time for your troops to retrieve the scroll if it is taken.

However, some say placing an enemy scroll in any of your main three keeps is a bad idea, as while taking that keep to get their scroll back will make it easier for them to open the gates to your scrolls.

Many times, when one faction hits one of your main keeps, the other faction may be ready to attack your other main keeps and you may wind up loosing both the enemy scroll and your scrolls.


"There are no rules for war in Cyrodiil...
There are no victories, there is only the battle.
The best you can hope for, is to find a place to stand your ground.
And hopefully, find others to stand with you."
~ The Captain

SaffronCitrusflower

You place scrolls as far from their home temple as possible in almost all circumstances.

ForumBully wrote: »

Zone chat is for non stop backseat driving. There has never been a scroll configuration that stopped opponents from taking them whenever the zerg reached a significant size. It's what passes for "strategy" on the checkerboard that is Cyrodiil.

Except there absolutely are best places to put scrolls strategically. In general, placing scrolls as far from their temples as possible is the best strategy. For EP, yellow scrolls should go in Chalman and Kingscrest and blue scrolls should go in Drakelow and Blue Road Keep. The same pattern applies for other factions.

For AD, Blue scrolls should go in Bloodmayne and Alessia and red scrolls should go in Brindle and Blackboot.

For DC, red scrolls should go in Ash and Rayles and yellow scrolls should go in Dragonclaw and Aleswell.

There absolutely is a method to the madness as to where to place scrolls when they are taken from the enemy if you want to maximize points from holding them.

Holycannoli

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

You place scrolls as far from their home temple as possible in almost all circumstances.

ForumBully wrote: »

Zone chat is for non stop backseat driving. There has never been a scroll configuration that stopped opponents from taking them whenever the zerg reached a significant size. It's what passes for "strategy" on the checkerboard that is Cyrodiil.

Except there absolutely are best places to put scrolls strategically. In general, placing scrolls as far from their temples as possible is the best strategy. For EP, yellow scrolls should go in Chalman and Kingscrest and blue scrolls should go in Drakelow and Blue Road Keep. The same pattern applies for other factions.

For AD, Blue scrolls should go in Bloodmayne and Alessia and red scrolls should go in Brindle and Blackboot.

For DC, red scrolls should go in Ash and Rayles and yellow scrolls should go in Dragonclaw and Aleswell.

There absolutely is a method to the madness as to where to place scrolls when they are taken from the enemy if you want to maximize points from holding them.

Nah for DC yellow scrolls go in Ash so you can farm those sweet defense ticks.

Honestly I've heard all kinds of "strategies" and no single strategy is more viable than the other. I've even heard of placing an enemy scroll closer to the other enemy faction to entice one faction to attack another.

ForumBully

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

You place scrolls as far from their home temple as possible in almost all circumstances.

ForumBully wrote: »

Zone chat is for non stop backseat driving. There has never been a scroll configuration that stopped opponents from taking them whenever the zerg reached a significant size. It's what passes for "strategy" on the checkerboard that is Cyrodiil.

Except there absolutely are best places to put scrolls strategically. In general, placing scrolls as far from their temples as possible is the best strategy. For EP, yellow scrolls should go in Chalman and Kingscrest and blue scrolls should go in Drakelow and Blue Road Keep. The same pattern applies for other factions.

For AD, Blue scrolls should go in Bloodmayne and Alessia and red scrolls should go in Brindle and Blackboot.

For DC, red scrolls should go in Ash and Rayles and yellow scrolls should go in Dragonclaw and Aleswell.

There absolutely is a method to the madness as to where to place scrolls when they are taken from the enemy if you want to maximize points from holding them.

I wouldn't say there's any "madness" that requires a method. Merely a belief by some that any placement makes any difference at all. Since scrolls constantly change hands no matter where they're placed, it doesn't seem to matter. Unless making someone run further counts as a personal victory.

ForumBully

I would love it if there were some strategic advantages gained by different placements; faction buffs offensive or defensive, maybe one scroll strengthens keep walls so it should go up front, or protecting a last keep or something...but there aren't.
All the current strategy really boils down to is run distance.

Holycannoli

ForumBully wrote: »

I would love it if there were some strategic advantages gained by different placements; faction buffs offensive or defensive, maybe one scroll strengthens keep walls so it should go up front, or protecting a last keep or something...but there aren't.
All the current strategy really boils down to is run distance.

Very good idea but they'll never implement something like that.

Lebkuchen

The basic rules:
If you manage to get your hands on an enemy scroll, you can only put it in one of your homekeeps. You can not put it in outposts, towns, your own temples, or enemy homekeeps. If you can not secure the scroll within one hour, it will respawn. If you feed it to the slaughterfish, it will respawn.

DC (blue) Homekeeps: Warden, Rayles, Glademist, Ash, Aleswell, Dragonclaw
EP (red) Homekeeps: Farragut, Kingscrest, Arrius, Chalman, Blueroad, Drakelowe
AD (yellow) Homekeeps: Blackboot, Bloodmayne, Faregyl, Alessia, Roebeck, Brindle

The unspoken rules:
There are a lot of different opinions, no rules. There is no perfect way of placing the scrolls. It depends on what you want to protect (Emperor, enemy scrolls, your own scrolls?) and how strong the enemy alliances are. If you have all scrolls and emp it is very likely that the two enemy alliances will team up. Do you want that? Can you handle it?

90% of people in zonechat just want to write something for different reasons and will not be there when you need help. So choose wisley who you listen to.

If you have a strong group and like big fights, picking up an enemy scroll (or two) is a very effective way to get enemies to follow and fight you. Some groups do not care about the war and just want to "farm enemy zerglings". It is a bit pretentious, but can be a lot of fun.

The most important thing to remember:
You are on the only platform and server that can handle Cyrodiil at the moment. Players on PC EU, Xbox NA, Xbox EU, Playstation NA and Playstation EU do not care about scrolls and campaigns because there is almost nobody left to play the game. Performance issues and bugs drove almost everyone away. I hope you can keep the war in Cyrodiil alive for us, so they have a reason to fix the issues and give us new PvP content, instead of letting Cyrodiil and PvP die.

biminirwb17_ESO

Seeing you play EP I suggest you put the scrolls back in your Temples.

deleted221205-002626

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

You place scrolls as far from their home temple as possible in almost all circumstances.

ForumBully wrote: »

Zone chat is for non stop backseat driving. There has never been a scroll configuration that stopped opponents from taking them whenever the zerg reached a significant size. It's what passes for "strategy" on the checkerboard that is Cyrodiil.

Except there absolutely are best places to put scrolls strategically. In general, placing scrolls as far from their temples as possible is the best strategy. For EP, yellow scrolls should go in Chalman and Kingscrest and blue scrolls should go in Drakelow and Blue Road Keep. The same pattern applies for other factions.

For AD, Blue scrolls should go in Bloodmayne and Alessia and red scrolls should go in Brindle and Blackboot.

For DC, red scrolls should go in Ash and Rayles and yellow scrolls should go in Dragonclaw and Aleswell.

There absolutely is a method to the madness as to where to place scrolls when they are taken from the enemy if you want to maximize points from holding them.

Absolutely wrong strategy and here is why!

I see you all going on about putting DC scrolls at DRAKE for example while AD has both of they'res!! Whats wrong with this? Well NOONE ever watches drake and AD walks right up every single time and takes it before any of us can even get there to defend it.. DRAKE/DRAGON are the absolute hardest to defend keeps in our territory and I wouldn't store my trash there!

deleted221205-002626

The TRI-KEEPS are always the safest place to put any scrolls and "fear" of the enemy coming for them shouldn't deter you from doing what makes sense!

ezmaye

Lebkuchen wrote: »

The basic rules:
If you manage to get your hands on an enemy scroll, you can only put it in one of your homekeeps. You can not put it in outposts, towns, your own temples, or enemy homekeeps. If you can not secure the scroll within one hour, it will respawn. If you feed it to the slaughterfish, it will respawn.

DC (blue) Homekeeps: Warden, Rayles, Glademist, Ash, Aleswell, Dragonclaw
EP (red) Homekeeps: Farragut, Kingscrest, Arrius, Chalman, Blueroad, Drakelowe
AD (yellow) Homekeeps: Blackboot, Bloodmayne, Faregyl, Alessia, Roebeck, Brindle

The unspoken rules:
There are a lot of different opinions, no rules. There is no perfect way of placing the scrolls. It depends on what you want to protect (Emperor, enemy scrolls, your own scrolls?) and how strong the enemy alliances are. If you have all scrolls and emp it is very likely that the two enemy alliances will team up. Do you want that? Can you handle it?

90% of people in zonechat just want to write something for different reasons and will not be there when you need help. So choose wisley who you listen to.

If you have a strong group and like big fights, picking up an enemy scroll (or two) is a very effective way to get enemies to follow and fight you. Some groups do not care about the war and just want to "farm enemy zerglings". It is a bit pretentious, but can be a lot of fun.

The most important thing to remember:
You are on the only platform and server that can handle Cyrodiil at the moment. Players on PC EU, Xbox NA, Xbox EU, Playstation NA and Playstation EU do not care about scrolls and campaigns because there is almost nobody left to play the game. Performance issues and bugs drove almost everyone away. I hope you can keep the war in Cyrodiil alive for us, so they have a reason to fix the issues and give us new PvP content, instead of letting Cyrodiil and PvP die.

Thank you, this is very helpful!
Such a shame they have let pvp die across other platforms and servers

ezmaye

sinnereso wrote: »

The TRI-KEEPS are always the safest place to put any scrolls and "fear" of the enemy coming for them shouldn't deter you from doing what makes sense!

Gosh people in zone lose their minds when people suggest the trikeeps. It's like they don't want to defend

ezmaye

dogshaman wrote: »

This one has found that most people prefer to place another faction's scroll in the keep farthest from the enemy.

This will not only give you more time to discover the enemies traveling through your territory, but also more time for your troops to retrieve the scroll if it is taken.

However, some say placing an enemy scroll in any of your main three keeps is a bad idea, as while taking that keep to get their scroll back will make it easier for them to open the gates to your scrolls.

Many times, when one faction hits one of your main keeps, the other faction may be ready to attack your other main keeps and you may wind up loosing both the enemy scroll and your scrolls.


"There are no rules for war in Cyrodiil...
There are no victories, there is only the battle.
The best you can hope for, is to find a place to stand your ground.
And hopefully, find others to stand with you."
~ The Captain

Thank you! Very helpful

deleted221205-002626

ezmaye wrote: »

sinnereso wrote: »

The TRI-KEEPS are always the safest place to put any scrolls and "fear" of the enemy coming for them shouldn't deter you from doing what makes sense!

Gosh people in zone lose their minds when people suggest the trikeeps. It's like they don't want to defend

Thats exactly what it is.. fear. Back in the day we'd drop a scroll at arrius and it could take them 3days to get it back! now they just afk zerg easymode and dont defend anything!

wazzz56

somewhere to be farmed