How much damage did you lose?

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Do you have any screenshots of new parses?

redlink1979

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

Unified_Gaming

redlink1979 wrote: »

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

I've seen it range from 13% to 30% depending on the player. Average seems around 20% which I think skinnycheeks also says.

FeedbackOnly

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

I've seen it range from 13% to 30% depending on the player. Average seems around 20% which I think skinnycheeks also says.

Seen some people lose 50 percent

Unified_Gaming

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

I've seen it range from 13% to 30% depending on the player. Average seems around 20% which I think skinnycheeks also says.

Seen some people lose 50 percent

I assume in the name of accessibility?

Jaimeh

Before the update I ran the IC sewers a lot killing mobs for Telvar, and there's one boss which I always tried to burn down fast because she has a teleport mechanic, and if you don't have a high burst she will port, move out of the DOTs, and you have to reposition (you may also get CC'd in the process because the teleport is like a sorc's streak essentially). I usually do 64k-71k on this boss (FG/medusa/pale order), and this is enough to kill her on the spot before the teleport. I tried it again today a few times (I didn't change anything, I had the same character, build, and skills) and I did around 45k in all tries. The boss ported which also lowered damaged, but I was watching my cmx and even in the highest burst phase, the damage didn't go over 52k. It's just an anecdotal report, but I had this boss very fresh in my mind so thought it's be a good indication.

ESO_Nightingale

enough to take a significant break from this mess. dps arctic blast is nowhere near enough to save this patch unfortunately.

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ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

enough to take a significant break from this mess. dps arctic blast is nowhere near enough to save this patch unfortunately.

What are you currently parsing on update 35?

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Unified_Gaming wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

I've seen it range from 13% to 30% depending on the player. Average seems around 20% which I think skinnycheeks also says.

Seen some people lose 50 percent

I assume in the name of accessibility?

Yeah lower tier players are losing a lot more then higher tier players

ESO_Nightingale

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

enough to take a significant break from this mess. dps arctic blast is nowhere near enough to save this patch unfortunately.

What are you currently parsing on update 35?

i only did one on live, but i only got around 81.8k. this is all the way down from the 96-98k i was getting with the same build.

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ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

enough to take a significant break from this mess. dps arctic blast is nowhere near enough to save this patch unfortunately.

What are you currently parsing on update 35?

i only did one on live, but i only got around 81.8k. this is all the way down from the 96-98k i was getting with the same build.

Ouchy I am sorry

mmtaniac

Jabs damage nerf is too much i would like to see some buffs. It's channeled ability and damage is weaker than instant cast silver shard that is also aoe.

SeveN085

If I have the same parses as before 101k on stamsorc both pre and post U35(had to switch from crystal to rapids otherwise 98k) and 94k vs 97k pre and post U35 on stamblade, now in reality Im doing like 80k dps cuz the added trial dummy buffs are supposed to be a whooping 20% dps increase?

FeedbackOnly

SeveN085 wrote: »

If I have the same parses as before 101k on stamsorc both pre and post U35(had to switch from crystal to rapids otherwise 98k) and 94k vs 97k pre and post U35 on stamblade, now in reality Im doing like 80k dps cuz the added trial dummy buffs are supposed to be a whooping 20% dps increase?

Yeah dummy buffs make things deceiving

dmnqwk

I was 104k on the trial pre u35.
After tweaking my build and using the maelstrom bow instead of greatsword I hit 94k on the dummy, so a little under 10% loss (obviously with the dummy changes this would be lower vs actual targets).

This is on a stamden btw. I also realised I had to drop winter's respite as it's a poor dot now, and sub ass is now worse than deep fissure (Sub Ass does about 60k over 18 seconds with 3 casts while Deep Fissure was 52k over 18 seconds but 2 casts. With the spammable worth the difference when you reach the execute phase, getting the extra spin to win every 18 makes it pull ahead. Plus dropping respite and with fetcherflies lasting 20 seconds now you have room for the magicka ability)

antoniodavidmv

DK Magicka DPS is dead. I lost about 30% DPS. Can't do Vathesran Arena anymore. So sad.

AcadianPaladin

Almost 30% dps loss.

I have 4 mages and 2 archers. For 'parses', I prefer to solo an easy WB (usually the Abomination in Deeshan) for parsing and my 6 characters prepatch would pull between 22-28k dps. Postpatch they now pull between 15-21k. And that seems consistent with what I'm also noting during boss fights when soloing normal group dungeons.

Necrotech_Master

i havent extensively tested my toons, but the one i was most concerned with was my stamplar

without changing his build i was hitting 20-25k dps on the 6 mil dummy, which was pretty close to what he was hitting before, but i did not have time to test in live scenarios, i think that this is probably slightly lower than normal (i was probably doing 25-30k dps on the 6 mil before the update, but i would like to verify in live fights as i dont usually hit the dummy much)

my main (a stam dk tank i usually solo and do content first with) would avg about 8k dps, and in live fights (i solo both graven deep and earthen root enclave on normal) i was encountering about the same avg dps as i did before the update (effectively little to no dmg loss, again without changing anything on the build)

Kazajhan

Got on, tried out a dummy. I'm not an expert player, so I never really ever got over 30K (as a werewolf even).

Barely 10k with Biting Jabs on a dummy. The animation seems stilted.

Looks like my stamina recovery is gone too. Used to be able to just go indefinitely, now I deflate like a leaky balloon.

charley222

let be honest here

the game level of difficulty before are way too easy , also i find a bit contradict the same user that conplain before saying eso is too easy complain now losing dps , this just make 0 sense , i feel guy you lack of constancy , in your complain

Mr_Stach

charley222 wrote: »

let be honest here

the game level of difficulty before are way too easy , also i find a bit contradict the same user that conplain before saying eso is too easy complain now losing dps , this just make 0 sense , i feel guy you lack of constancy , in your complain

The issues are not purely in "I do less damage so I'm angry" there are some very baffling changes to class skills that make playing different classes not fun to play at all.

The point of this update was to lower the DPS Ceiling by making Light Attack Weaving less Important and Make Combat more Accessible by Standardizing DoT and Buff Timers, they failed on both fronts.

A lot of the changes in this patch are not good and do not make the game more fun to play or more accessible for people to do more content.

These "Complaints" are very warranted.

mocap

i have the same 35k dps on my dd-tank hybrid sorc (3 mil dummy) for dungeons. Im not "floor" or "ceiling" xd
Middle, i guess. Nothing has changed for me for a long time.

Dragkiris

I dropped from like right under 120k on my necro (119.8 lol - never broke 120) to like 102k, but thats with my previous setup. I assume I can climb to around 113ish when I redo the gear a bit. But thats still a huge loss considering the buffs the dummy got

VadimAleks

I play solo. So I can't put everything into damage, I have to maintain survival in veteran 4-man dungeons. I've never seen all those scary 100k dps numbers. Usually I take my time and not pounding the keyboard like a monkey at 3 clicks per second to kill bosses with 20-25k dps. After the patch, my templar lost about 10-15% dps. My werewolf is about 40%. Because 57% of my damage was LA. There was also a Claws nerf. An increase in a tick to 2 seconds is already a reduction in damage by 2 times. But that wasn't enough for them. They reduced the damage(Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 17% (c) ZOS). And this was not enough. They reduced the heal from this damage. That is, the healing nerf was more than 4 times! So besides losing 40% dps, I lose even more if I have to spend time healing damage that claws used to heal.
I just don't want to see what happened to my other characters because my favorite werewolf is completely destroyed. He was nerfed before this patch, but this patch just trampled him into the mud. 12k dps on Slimecraw(vet Sewers).

Kazajhan

VadimAleks wrote: »

I play solo. So I can't put everything into damage, I have to maintain survival in veteran 4-man dungeons. I've never seen all those scary 100k dps numbers. Usually I take my time and not pounding the keyboard like a monkey at 3 clicks per second to kill bosses with 20-25k dps. After the patch, my templar lost about 10-15% dps. My werewolf is about 40%. Because 57% of my damage was LA. There was also a Claws nerf. An increase in a tick to 2 seconds is already a reduction in damage by 2 times. But that wasn't enough for them. They reduced the damage(Reduced the damage per tick by approximately 17% (c) ZOS). And this was not enough. They reduced the heal from this damage. That is, the healing nerf was more than 4 times! So besides losing 40% dps, I lose even more if I have to spend time healing damage that claws used to heal.

Wow, well, being a Khajiit Templar Werewolf, I guess this is ZOS stomping this one into the mud. Sorry, it's not an MMO RPG, it's an MMO sorry-we-favor-only-certain-builds-what's-this-role-playing-crap. I guess my Warden character needs attention; he's so low level that he's still squishy, and I probably wouldn't notice the nerfs.

preevious

I'm a magsorc
I went from 40k unbuffed to 35k, so, a 12.5% loss.
(I parsed on a non-trial dummy to get reliable numbers, since the trial one moved the goalposts)

It's .. not so bad. Icould get close to 40k again by tweaking a few things.

1) Maelstrom staff .. if they don't fix it, It'll be goodbye.
2) Use kilt instead of mora's. Mora's more reliable, but it prevents you from using a monster set.. and procs will be all the rage, I suspect.
3) My biggest gripe : rotation. As I use pets, I already have to juggle with prey to keep it at a 85-90% uptime. Now, I'll have to juggle with pray, and with 10sec and 20sec dots. That'll be annoying, but it should make my DPS go back up.
4) Since I won't use maelstrom anymore, I could conceivably wear 2 backbar sets, a monster set AND a mythic. I'll think about it.

There are solutions. It's annoying, yes, but we'll manage.

Sockermannen

Magsorc
My non pet build did 76k before patch
after patch she did 62k
rebuild for a full pet build, new gear, new rotation, maw and all. That build is pushing 72k with a more more boring and stale rotation since i loose 40% of my skills to pets and prey is absolutely mandatory to reapply every 6 seconds as to not loose DPS, especially if i have storm atro up.
i guess i basically have to do pets now…

thorwyn

115k pre U35, 110k after U35.
Doesn't look like much but we all know about the additional raid dummy buffs.

Astrid

charley222 wrote: »

let be honest here

the game level of difficulty before are way too easy , also i find a bit contradict the same user that conplain before saying eso is too easy complain now losing dps , this just make 0 sense , i feel guy you lack of constancy , in your complain

Some content, yes. Higher level raid hms we’re still not “easy” though. Some took months and months of progging which is all just gone now. Back to square one, or quit til it’s fixed are the options. An 8 year old game shouldn’t be doing that when there’s so much wrong with it at it’s actual core with bugs, crashes, lag that need to be addressed.

Ranger209

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Unified_Gaming wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Just one request to the potential posters: please post parses on a 6 million dummy since trial dummies inflate your dps by 15%.

I've seen it range from 13% to 30% depending on the player. Average seems around 20% which I think skinnycheeks also says.

Seen some people lose 50 percent

I assume in the name of accessibility?

My take is this was really their way of addressing how easy overland content is.

Snow_White

I went from 120 to 111, which I figure means I actually went from 120 to 90k.

That was with my old parse setup (all I did was swap backstabber for wrathful and Kinras for Pillar). Rele, Pillar, Kilt, Slimecraw, Maestrom 2h. I figure I can push that up to 115-120 with some changes.