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Activity Finder keeps surprising me with new bugs 8 years later

Alchemical
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A few friends and I have been rushing to finish monster helm collections from the less popular DLC dungeons since no one really wants to do them in the new patch, and I've encountered more new and unique bugs in the last 48 hours than I have in years. Bugs such as:
  • When the confirmation to enter the dungeon pops up, after 100% hitting 'confirm' it simply removes me from queue instead
  • Simply won't let me queue as a solo player at all, instantly booting me out
  • Won't let us queue as a duo because one of us isn't allowed to do veteran DLCs for some reason - both players are over 900cp so it's not the level restriction
  • Invite another friend who is able to queue in, but can't pass the lead to anyone else for, again, some reason we can't figure out
  • Queued specifically for veteran Scalecaller, ended up in Wayrest Sewers 2
  • Getting different leaver's penalty durations for leaving the same dungeon at the same time

And so on the eve of the 'accessibility' patch I literally cannot access dungeons, in a divine twist of irony. I don't understand how the game could get bought by a bigger, better financed company and degrade so rapidly. Maybe it's just holdovers from COVID complicating production, who knows. It's always been a little finnicky but it's been a long time since it was THIS broken. Even I'm at my limit on what I'm willing to shrug and say "it is what it is" at. I love this game, I don't enjoy complaining about it, and it's still by and far the MMO I'd rather play the most compared to the state of others - but the bugs that prevent me from literally playing at all make me think I should just pick up a new non-MMO hobby, at least for a while.
  • DLM
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    You know that there is something wrong when:

    - be a healer
    - group with a tank (you can do the other way around)
    - queue for random dungeon
    - instant pop but one dps either doesn't accept or is AFK and the timer runs out
    - the game tells you that you're back at the top of the queue
    - you're waiting... waiting... waiting... waiting...

    You are still a healer + tank, it should be another pop again. You actually have to leave the queue and requeue for it to work.
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    So if you can’t queue into a group dungeon than the groups effective DPS is zero. Talk about nerfing DPS. Mission accomplished…
  • Sarannah
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    When doing a random veteran solo queue, I once ended up in another dungeon than the other three players I got paired with. After figuring out what happened I manually ported to them, and was afraid I would not get the random completion bonusses. But I did. Very very strange. Only happened once though, so nothing major.
  • EldritchSun
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    So if you can’t queue into a group dungeon than the groups effective DPS is zero. Talk about nerfing DPS. Mission accomplished…

    The same goes for healing.
  • Alchemical
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    I've had some strange one-off bugs before, and I was playing when the activity finder just straight up didn't work at all during the Undaunted event of all things, so I've got a pretty high tolerance of nonsense before I start calling shenanigans. And if all this stuff was just happening to me, as I was googling furiously to find out if it was a known bug and didn't see anything, then I'd assume it was probably something wrong with my computer or connection. Once I recruited friends to try and finish it though, and THEY started having the issues as well, it became clear there's something on the game's side bugging out. What really sealed it for me was the different leaver's penalty timers, how does that even get messed up? Like, I can't even conceptualize it.

    I was doing dungeons back to back to back a few nights ago with no issues whatsoever and nothing on my end has changed. And the bugs I encounter throughout Friday/Saturday were still inconsistent on top of that. Sometimes switching characters 'fixed' not being able to queue but sometimes it didn't. Sometimes I could do several in a row after 'fixing' it and some I had to do it between every run. One time I had to quit out of the game entirely before it would 'fix' itself. It's not the end of the world, merely annoying, but I don't think I'm wrong for not wanting to troubleshoot bugs in someone else's game and not even get paid. I don't even know if what I was doing was influencing it at all really, because I was getting repeated failures in a row, decided to go fishing till I cooled off, and then was able to queue again without switching or restarting anything. If this is something I could even fix, I don't have access to the information needed to do so and that's still a problem.

    And even if this singularly annoying experience was the only BATCH of bugs I've encountered lately, I'd STILL not be so mad, but it feels like EVERYTHING in High Isle is busted. World bosses, achievements, tales of tribute, tonight I had another stranger affirm they've also had issues with consistently crashing in Dreadsail on pulling the last boss, something I assumed was just my connection. This is not a healthy state for a game that makes this much money, and they are about to roll out a patch which will inevitably have more bugs. I'm not demanding that patches be pristine and bugless when you've got deadlines to meet, but my point is they are accumulating and not being answered as they churn out more things they're going to either need to fix eventually, or not fix it and let this be the first impression anyone who picks up ESO with High Isle. It's become very demoralizing to be a fan, I use to recommend the game a lot to friends, but now I don't know if I feel good suggesting it to anyone but people who just buy anything Elder Scrolls related anyway.
  • N00BxV1
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    I queue solo as a tank on several characters for randoms and pledges every time I play. And every day, on every character, for almost every dungeon, the ready check fails more than it succeeds. I see the ready check pop up, but then there is at least one person who does not accept the check, causing the queue to fail and restart. This might not seem like a big deal for those who only queue once on one character, but when you queue on several characters and for several dungeons, this wasted time really adds up.

    The queue also seems to have issues when a tank and one other person is already in group. For example, when a tank and healer or dps queue it takes a lot longer, if at all, for it to find just two other people. This makes me not want to queue with anyone else...
  • meekmiko
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    I always get the bug where it does the check, everyone accepts, and then one to two people don't get pulled into the actual dungeon it instead just leaves you where you're at while everyone else gets pulled in. Happens a lot with and without addons enabled.
    🌟PC/NA CP2050+ [Been playing since 2016]
    ✨🐪JUSTICE FOR APEX CAMELS 🐪✨ Bring 'em back, ZOS!
    vMA / vVH / vDSA / vBRP / vAA HM / vSO HM / vHRC HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS+1 & +1 / vCR+2 / vSS / vKA/ vRG
    • 🌩️ 🏹 EP - Jessamine Seed-Nightrun, Dro-m'Athra Destroyer / Bosmer StamSorc (DPS) -Main DPS-
    • ☀️ 🛡️ EP - Mihi'Mai-Ra, Plague of Peryite / Khajiit StamPlar (Tank) -Main Tank-
    • ☀️ ✨ EP - Lady Lapa'au, The Magnanimous / Khajiit MagPlar (Healer) -Main Healer-
    • 🌩️ ☄️ EP - Ra'venk, Style Master / Khajiit MagSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ EP - Bird gra-Shuzgub, Forge Breaker / Orc StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ✨ EP - Blades-at-the-Ready, Witch / Argonian MagBlade (Healer)
    • ☀️ ⚔️ EP - Lady Fortuna the Blessed, Grand Champion / Imperial StamPlar (DPS)
    • 🔥 🛡️ EP - Plays-in Volcanoes, Mystic / Argonian StamDK (Tank)
    • 💀 ☄️ EP - Ko'shamari the Doomweaver, Dovahkriid / Khajiit MagNecro (DPS)
    • 🌱 ✨ EP - Sorvete, Countess / Khajiit StamDen (Healer)
    • 🔥 🏹 EP - Falora Veloth, The Merciless / Dunmer StamDK (DPS)
    • 🌩️ 🛡️ AD - Shimmers-with-Static, Spark of Vengeance / Argonian StamSorc (Tank)
    • ☀️ ⚔️ EP - Amarri-do the Magnificent, Clan Mother / Khajiit StamPlar (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ⚔️ EP - Z'majii-dar the Quick, Battlegrounds Butcher / Khajiit StamSorc (DPS)
    • 🔥 ⚔️ EP - Habasi the Glamorous, Seeker of Artifacts / Khajiit StamDK (DPS)
    • 🗡️ 🛡️ EP - Yana-la the Iron Lotus, Silver Knight / Khajiit StamBlade (Tank)
    • 👁️ ☄️ EP - Mog gra-Ushug the Scholar, Master Historian / Orc MagCanist (DPS)
    • 👁️ 🛡️ EP - Mamaea the Sledgehammer, Alpha Predator / Khajiit StamCanist (Tank)
    • 👁️ 🏹 EP - Elsyiir Lichenhollow, Lady / Bosmer StamCanist (DPS)
    • 💀 🛡️ EP - Vashpurri-do the Corrupt, Alpha Predator / Khajiit StamNecro (Tank)
    • & I only dabble on the PC/EU server sometimes:
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ AD - Jessamine Seed-Nightrun / Bosmer StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ⚔️ EP - Sings-a-Song-of-Storms / Argonian StamSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ☄️ DC - Helainie the Shadebringer / Breton MagBlade (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ☄️ EP - Steals-Many-Hearts / Argonian MagSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ AD - Pashet the Nimble / Khajiit StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🔥 🏹☄️ EP - Furoni the Ember / Dunmer HybridDK (DPS)
    • 👁️ ☄️ EP - Am-Kesh / Argonian MagCanist (DPS)
    • 🔥 ⚔️ AD - Eldrinthr the Flame-Heart / Bosmer StamDK (DPS)
    • 👁️ ☄️ AD - Bajaa the Blackened Beast / Khajiit MagNecro (DPS)
    • 💀 ⚔️ AD - Vashpurri-do the Corrupt / Khajiit StamNecro (DPS)
  • Dawnblade
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    meekmiko wrote: »
    I always get the bug where it does the check, everyone accepts, and then one to two people don't get pulled into the actual dungeon it instead just leaves you where you're at while everyone else gets pulled in. Happens a lot with and without addons enabled.

    And usually, those that don't get ported at the start cannot port to those inside unless they change zones first as the others will show up as offline or still in an overland area.
  • meekmiko
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    Dawnblade wrote: »
    meekmiko wrote: »
    I always get the bug where it does the check, everyone accepts, and then one to two people don't get pulled into the actual dungeon it instead just leaves you where you're at while everyone else gets pulled in. Happens a lot with and without addons enabled.

    And usually, those that don't get ported at the start cannot port to those inside unless they change zones first as the others will show up as offline or still in an overland area.

    Yup, exactly that.
    🌟PC/NA CP2050+ [Been playing since 2016]
    ✨🐪JUSTICE FOR APEX CAMELS 🐪✨ Bring 'em back, ZOS!
    vMA / vVH / vDSA / vBRP / vAA HM / vSO HM / vHRC HM / vMoL HM / vHoF HM / vAS+1 & +1 / vCR+2 / vSS / vKA/ vRG
    • 🌩️ 🏹 EP - Jessamine Seed-Nightrun, Dro-m'Athra Destroyer / Bosmer StamSorc (DPS) -Main DPS-
    • ☀️ 🛡️ EP - Mihi'Mai-Ra, Plague of Peryite / Khajiit StamPlar (Tank) -Main Tank-
    • ☀️ ✨ EP - Lady Lapa'au, The Magnanimous / Khajiit MagPlar (Healer) -Main Healer-
    • 🌩️ ☄️ EP - Ra'venk, Style Master / Khajiit MagSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ EP - Bird gra-Shuzgub, Forge Breaker / Orc StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ✨ EP - Blades-at-the-Ready, Witch / Argonian MagBlade (Healer)
    • ☀️ ⚔️ EP - Lady Fortuna the Blessed, Grand Champion / Imperial StamPlar (DPS)
    • 🔥 🛡️ EP - Plays-in Volcanoes, Mystic / Argonian StamDK (Tank)
    • 💀 ☄️ EP - Ko'shamari the Doomweaver, Dovahkriid / Khajiit MagNecro (DPS)
    • 🌱 ✨ EP - Sorvete, Countess / Khajiit StamDen (Healer)
    • 🔥 🏹 EP - Falora Veloth, The Merciless / Dunmer StamDK (DPS)
    • 🌩️ 🛡️ AD - Shimmers-with-Static, Spark of Vengeance / Argonian StamSorc (Tank)
    • ☀️ ⚔️ EP - Amarri-do the Magnificent, Clan Mother / Khajiit StamPlar (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ⚔️ EP - Z'majii-dar the Quick, Battlegrounds Butcher / Khajiit StamSorc (DPS)
    • 🔥 ⚔️ EP - Habasi the Glamorous, Seeker of Artifacts / Khajiit StamDK (DPS)
    • 🗡️ 🛡️ EP - Yana-la the Iron Lotus, Silver Knight / Khajiit StamBlade (Tank)
    • 👁️ ☄️ EP - Mog gra-Ushug the Scholar, Master Historian / Orc MagCanist (DPS)
    • 👁️ 🛡️ EP - Mamaea the Sledgehammer, Alpha Predator / Khajiit StamCanist (Tank)
    • 👁️ 🏹 EP - Elsyiir Lichenhollow, Lady / Bosmer StamCanist (DPS)
    • 💀 🛡️ EP - Vashpurri-do the Corrupt, Alpha Predator / Khajiit StamNecro (Tank)
    • & I only dabble on the PC/EU server sometimes:
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ AD - Jessamine Seed-Nightrun / Bosmer StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ⚔️ EP - Sings-a-Song-of-Storms / Argonian StamSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ☄️ DC - Helainie the Shadebringer / Breton MagBlade (DPS)
    • 🌩️ ☄️ EP - Steals-Many-Hearts / Argonian MagSorc (DPS)
    • 🗡️ ⚔️ AD - Pashet the Nimble / Khajiit StamBlade (DPS)
    • 🔥 🏹☄️ EP - Furoni the Ember / Dunmer HybridDK (DPS)
    • 👁️ ☄️ EP - Am-Kesh / Argonian MagCanist (DPS)
    • 🔥 ⚔️ AD - Eldrinthr the Flame-Heart / Bosmer StamDK (DPS)
    • 👁️ ☄️ AD - Bajaa the Blackened Beast / Khajiit MagNecro (DPS)
    • 💀 ⚔️ AD - Vashpurri-do the Corrupt / Khajiit StamNecro (DPS)
  • FantasticFreddie
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    I've seen it a couple of times where it puts one person in a totally different dungeon. How? Why? Who knows, not me.
  • ForzaRammer
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    Zos should at least delete ready checks
  • Agenericname
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    Dawnblade wrote: »
    meekmiko wrote: »
    I always get the bug where it does the check, everyone accepts, and then one to two people don't get pulled into the actual dungeon it instead just leaves you where you're at while everyone else gets pulled in. Happens a lot with and without addons enabled.

    And usually, those that don't get ported at the start cannot port to those inside unless they change zones first as the others will show up as offline or still in an overland area.

    Yes, and the issue with that work around is that they need to know that beforehand, because you wont be able to communicate with unless theyre friends or guildmates.
  • sbr32
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    meekmiko wrote: »
    I always get the bug where it does the check, everyone accepts, and then one to two people don't get pulled into the actual dungeon it instead just leaves you where you're at while everyone else gets pulled in. Happens a lot with and without addons enabled.

    If you port directly into the dungeon you will join up with your group.
  • Dr_Con
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    I always requeue after someone doesn't accept. This bug has been persistent and needs fixing.
  • AinSoph
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    Personally hate the fact we still only have a RANDOM queue after 8 years when player incentives for doing dungeons has branched out multiple different ways. If we had a group finder similar to FFXIV where you can set specifics, it would drastically alleviate problems like this as well as fakes.

    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Party_Finder
    Edited by AinSoph on August 26, 2022 2:21PM
  • honglatongla
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    They can't implement that because of spaghetti code.
  • N00BxV1
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    Zos should at least delete ready checks

    One time I made a thread out of frustration suggesting to change the Ready Check into just a simple notification and countdown like (for example) "Group Found, Your Dungeon Will Begin in [X] Seconds...", but it was an overwhelmingly unpopular opinion. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that expect everyone to wait on them while they finish their craft surveys etc.
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