Sets that carry classes need to go

OnGodiDoDis

Lovely Nightbalde changes. Now if only all the other classes could get the same treatment. I'm convinced these changes were done because the devs knew that the class was being carried by Caluurion's. When a set carries a class or playstyle (as DCon does necro bombers) and that set gets nerfed, the affected class must be changed to be able to compete with other classes. Instead of having DCon carry bombers, why not make class changes to necro so that they can bomb without it? Not everyone wants to be a necro bomber, and not everyone wants to be a gankblade. Those builds are simply the most effective specs for those classes, that's why people use them. Eliminating the dependence of classes on sets will open up new playstyles for those classes, instead of pulling people into specific playstyles because the only way the class works in PvP is because a set allows it to work a certain way. Fix the class skills. Make them better than Weapon and Guild skills, like Killer's blade and Executioner. Sets should compliment playstyles, not make playstyles dependent on them. This draws the attention to sets when they become too powerful and leaves the lackluster skills in the shadows.

Xarc

because you think only NB use caluurion ?

OnGodiDoDis

Xarc wrote: »

because you think only NB use caluurion ?

I said that a set should not be created in response to a class that struggles with burst. Instead, fix the issue itself, which is the underperforming class toolkit. You see how they nerfed healing and gave us Mara's? Their answer is always a set. Also, no other class could abuse Caluurion's the way a NB could. So yes, NBs were the reason Caluurion's was adjusted.

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Zekka

OnGodiDoDis wrote: »

When a set carries a class or playstyle (as DCon does necro bombers) and that set gets nerfed, the affected class must be changed to be able to compete with other classes. Instead of having DCon carry bombers, why not make class changes to necro so that they can bomb without it?

I'd rather the whole necro harmony bomber playstyle get completely removed, it's clearly overperforming and overcentralizing especially in GvG situations where at least one who also doubles as a synergy monkey is needed, though the fact that 99% of the magnecros you see in PvP are DC harmony bombers is more telling of how limited its kit is outside of it: people try to play something else with their magnecros and quickly realize that there isn't much outside of blastbones to kill people with.
Nightblade is much more versatile imo, I've seen lots of different builds this patch: strong dark cloak brawlerblades playing with dots and sets like Maarselok, bowblades with dot sets, ranged magblade bombers, melee ones, and of course stamblade gankers which are not even that dependent on Caluurion.
But yes, classes shouldn't be completely dependent on a set, their toolkits should stand on their own and DC was a mistake that should just be completely repurposed.