Are you comfortable using an MMO mouse? 12 buttons

francesinhalover

bruh if the mouse is good for drawing i'm set, couldn't care less about buttons, mine has 2 on the side and i only use one

ThirdEye_PULSE

I love my wireless utech mouse. I think i wanna upgrade it eventually for the better version... Logitech. Its still a budget friendly mouse for $50. The utech wireless mouse i own stays fully charged for weeks as long as i keep RGB off. I bought a 2nd one for my laptop because of how long the charge is.

The main issue with my MMO mouse and probably more a me issue is i cant succesfully use more than 6-7 buttons. I havent developed enough muscle memory or thumb flexibility to handle corretly using my other buttons.

For games that i dont need all the extra buttons, i got a glorius model O mouse. Its super light... narrow. Great for FPS games and the like.

I couldnt play ESO at the level i do on PC without my MMO mouse. I love it. Its fun being able to program your mouse so that you can use custom keybinds to free up your #1-12 or whatever you key you wanna free up on the keyboard. Once you download the software you can change your side buttons to a custom keybind like ADF or whatever combination you want. Then when you set up your keybinds in game just use the correct keybind you have programmed on mouse. Saved my life on a few games.

As an ex PS4 player... i think id still be better with a controller if i didnt have the MMO mouse.

Tommy_The_Gun

I am using an old fashioned 3 buttons mouse (left, rght, middle/scroll). I don't even have a dpi switch lol. Although my mouse is a gaming one - it is simple & effective & intuitive to use - just like it should be.

I had other mices in the past - including the ones that had extra buttons, but I always ended up in disabling those, as pretty much always it was causing some issues. Idk, It might be just my personal preferences or maybe the fact that my 1st PC was an old Comodore / Amiga that had a mouse with only 2 buttons

Wing

used a razer chroma style forever, 12 on the side 3333

i could never go back

i mostly use the first two rows of 6 all the time for my skills, 1-5 and ult

my middle mouse bar swaps so i can just drive and keep moving with was-d at no effort with my left hand and target and fire with my right hand, its comfortable for me.

after that the next 6 are hotkeys for specific actions or because im lazy, so 7-9 see uncommon use, and 10-12 see almost none

7 is a secondary roll dodge, 8 is toggle walk / run, 9 is use synergy

and i forget the rest of the top of my head


so yeah, just because you have 12 does not mean you HAVE to use all of them right away, sometimes its nice to just have some alternate keybinds.

Sarousse42

Can't play without it. MMO mouse forever.

Khenarthi

I have a 2014 Razer Naga, and I use the 12 buttons on the side for things like Map, Horse, Inventory, Quickslot, Journal, Sheathe, Swap weapon. Attack and Block go on the 2 notmal mouse buttons, and naturally the mouse movement moves the camera so I can look around and point my character to stuff.

Movement, skill buttons, and ultimate are things I prefer to handle with my other hand.

I'd say it all comes down to trial+error until you find a comfortable arrangement, then practice until muscle memory kicks in.

Ravensnut

I have a Corsair Scimitar 12 side button mouse that I love so much, it's spoiled me from playing without it.

I have abilities 1-5 and Ultimate bound to the top 2 rows.
Crouch, Synergy, and Sprint on the next row.
and I bound different gear loadouts to the bottom row (Solo, Group, Travel)
There's 2 top buttons, I have Bar Swap and Horse on these.

Having the mouse hand responsible for combat actions and the keyboard hand responsible for movement/dodge has allowed me to deal with mobile fights while keeping up the needed actions per minute easier than default.

The hardest part of transitioning to this type of mouse is developing muscle memory, so I've standardized button assignment since generally on offense you'll have skills that fit the following general classification:
Button 1 (spammable/DD)
Button 2 (DOT/debuff)
Button 3 (AOE/multi-target)
Button 4 (Burst heal/Oh Crap skill)
Button 5 (Proc skill/contingent/activatable skill)
Button 6 (Ultimate)

This standardization allows me to transition to alts easily since I don't have to train my brain on their skills. My Oh crap skills are always on Button 4 so if I'm under pressure I don't have to think about what skill to use and where it's located- I just muscle memory to the Oh Crap button.

KMarble

I have very small hands (about 15cm/3in from base of the thumb to the tip of the middle finger). I've been using a Logitec G600 for around 3 years now and have no complaints.

Despite the fact that I'm extremely left handed, I use the mouse with my right hand and found it easier to adapt to it than using a keyboard and normal mouse.

For me in ESO the 6 lower buttons on the side and the 3rd button on top are sufficient - 1 through 5 are skills, 6 to change bars and the 3rd button on top for X ( I bound it there for the blade of woe, but turns out, it's very nice to have synergies bound on the mouse too).

Before I got the Logitec I was worried that I'd would press the side buttons by accident when lifting or moving the mouse, but that is not the case.

Jamie_Aubrey

I don't need more than 2, one for dodge roll and the other for weapon swap

Vevvev

I use the 12 button mouse to, although I bound the 12th button to change profiles. This is so I can switch between having the buttons on or off in case I just don't need them like when I'm coding or browsing the web.

Takes some getting used to, but can really save your arms and hand from having to dance across the number keys.

FrancisCrawford

Nope. I love Logitech 300 series gaming mice. They add 4 easily usable buttons, plus a couple more that I basically use as an ESC substitute only.

Anything I've tried with more buttons has been problematic.

Unfortunately, I haven't worked out a comfortable way to move and fire skills at the same time without compromise. But I do get super-easy bar swap, grabbing of synergies/etc., and stealth. And one-button dodge, but I don't generally use that.

Vulkunne

xgoldelf wrote: »

I currently play on gamepad mode using a controller on pc and I’m thinking of switching to keyboard and mouse. Do you find the Razer naga pro/trinity easy to use with 12 buttons and not confusing? I tried it once and kept on pressing two buttons at once but maybe because I was pressing too fast. What’s your opinions on a mouse with 12 extra buttons on the side? There is a Corsair mouse version with 12 buttons as well but not sure how it is.

Having seen this type of product before and working with one previously, I have decided to steer clear of it. Why is that?

What happens usually is I end up clicking those buttons on the side by accident or ignoring them completely during an intense battle. So they're no good to me.

This is why for years now I've used a Belkin gamepad and Logitech MX Master 3 gaming mouse. In this case comfort is just as important as functionality and using the gamepad saves on my wrist while the upper design of the mouse saves on my hand and is much more ergonomic than a smaller mouse or an obscenely large mouses which stresses out my hand muscles.

grkkll

Logitech G602 wireless.

6 Buttons on thumb side for 5 skills and ult
usual 2 buttons on top for attack and block.
2 buttons on left of attack button for jump and crouch
Mouse wheel press for Q slot
Its a large mouse and fits my hand better too

grkkll

KMarble wrote: »

I have very small hands (about 15cm/3in from base of the thumb to the tip of the middle finger). I've been using a Logitec G600 for around 3 years now and have no complaints.

Despite the fact that I'm extremely left handed, I use the mouse with my right hand and found it easier to adapt to it than using a keyboard and normal mouse.

For me in ESO the 6 lower buttons on the side and the 3rd button on top are sufficient - 1 through 5 are skills, 6 to change bars and the 3rd button on top for X ( I bound it there for the blade of woe, but turns out, it's very nice to have synergies bound on the mouse too).

Before I got the Logitec I was worried that I'd would press the side buttons by accident when lifting or moving the mouse, but that is not the case.

So is my 602 a wireless version of the wired 600?

MentalxHammer

The 7 button module on the razer naga trinity is the way! I also found the 12 buttons a bit clunky, but the 7 button wheel is perfect for binding 5 skills, an ultimate, and whatever else you want!

MentalxHammer

dem0n1k wrote: »

I've used the logitech g600 mouse since playing eso. All the thumb buttons are very handy. Unfortunately, these mice are prone to the thumb button membrane switches failing & I am on my 4th one and they are becoming harder to find in stock. Might try the Razer Naga next.

Naga is fully mechanical, I’ve put thousands of hours on mine and it still feels perfect!

Lumsdenml

I use the Naga trinity and use the 12 button set up. Took some time and practice, but could never go back now. When I first got it, never could hit the right button, but that goes away with time. If you simply can't do it, you could swap to the 6 button side. This buttons are larger.

Lumsdenml

dem0n1k wrote: »

I've used the logitech g600 mouse since playing eso. All the thumb buttons are very handy. Unfortunately, these mice are prone to the thumb button membrane switches failing & I am on my 4th one and they are becoming harder to find in stock. Might try the Razer Naga next.

Hey demonic! I used the g600 for years... went through a couple of them...

ZOS_Kevin

So I use the Naga Pro and I cannot get used to the 12 button layout. I keep on rolling over other keys. I switched to the six button layout and that works much better for me.

Dawnblade

I used a Razer Naga for a while (only the first couple of rows, getting my thumb to all keys was a bit of a stretch) but kept having issues with the main mouse buttons failing after only a few months (several back-to-back, so stopped buying Razer).

I'm currently using a Logitech G Pro mouse with just two side buttons, may try the 600 at some point as I'd like to have mouse buttons available for abilities and separate movement and ability usage by hand (where in most other games I use a mouse / right hand for movement and KB / left hand for abilities).

h9dlb

I use Logitech G604 it has 10 buttons (6 on the side near the thumb) very handy for MMO and FPS games

Carcamongus

Goodness gracious, there's a mouse with 12 buttons?!? I already fumble all the time with four, imagine three times as many!

mandricus

I use a quite old mouse, Roccat Tyon, and still loving it. 8 programmable additional buttons for me in various places is more than enough. I think i could not play with 12 buttons all meant to be used with the thumb only.

Porter_H

IsharaMeradin wrote: »

I have the Razer Naga Trinity with the 12 button panel. I do not have issues with it. But that being said, I tried to use them for skills but had too much trouble. Instead I use them to swap weapons, interact with objects, mount / dismount horse, sheathe weapons and select the quick slot item I want to use.

I use this too. 1-5 for skills. 7 is break free. 10 for weapon swap. I hit weapon swap with the joint area of my thumb. Everything else is pressed normally.

2 is my spammable, 4 is AoE, 5 is taunt on my tanks. 3 is least used skill on a bar.

TechMaybeHic

WiseSky wrote: »

This is the ultimate Set up to die for for ESO

I use something Ike that but a generic keypad I like the button layout better. If not for the mouse, I'd prefer a controller

Alchemical

I used a 12-button mouse during my stint in the 'pro' raid scene in WoW and I don't think the increased reaction time for some skills compensated the time the learning curve to use it effectively took. Even then, I was so use to the muscle memory of playing 'normally' that I often just straight up forgot to use it anyway. Huge waste of money imo.

I just play ESO with a controller though. My arthritis absolutely cripples my ability to play KB+M games for more than a few hours or so at a time anymore. There's def some strong downsides to controller usage, especially in PVP, but that's the trade off for not developing extreme joint pain before you turn 30.

DYSEQTA

mandricus wrote: »

I use a quite old mouse, Roccat Tyon, and still loving it. 8 programmable additional buttons for me in various places is more than enough. I think i could not play with 12 buttons all meant to be used with the thumb only.

Yep. Have two of them myself. It's not so much the number of buttons but the smart placement of them that make the Tyon so good. Down-press thumb buttons should be on every mouse as should at least one secondary left and one secondary right. I also feel the top mounted paddle that sits between your finger is also an inspired design.

You can tell they really thought about the design and usability of the Tyon.

EDIT: Technically it is a 14 button mouse if you configure the side analog paddle to be key presses on up and down.

ZeroDPS

Im using Logi G903 Lightspeed and thats more than enough for mmo

Tesman85

Porter_H wrote: »

IsharaMeradin wrote: »

I have the Razer Naga Trinity with the 12 button panel. I do not have issues with it. But that being said, I tried to use them for skills but had too much trouble. Instead I use them to swap weapons, interact with objects, mount / dismount horse, sheathe weapons and select the quick slot item I want to use.

I use this too. 1-5 for skills. 7 is break free. 10 for weapon swap. I hit weapon swap with the joint area of my thumb. Everything else is pressed normally.

2 is my spammable, 4 is AoE, 5 is taunt on my tanks. 3 is least used skill on a bar.

I use this mouse with the 7 button panel. 1 to 5 for skills: 1 for a heal/DoT/gap closer depending on class, 2 for DoT or an execute, 3 for a spammable/AoE, 4 for some useful attack, 5 mostly for a buff, 6 for ultimate and 7 for weapon swap. Anything else is done via keyboard. Has worked well for so far. But I didn't realize that one can bind breaking free to one button. Maybe I should swap to the 12-button panel and give a try to binding more things to mouse buttons.

KMarble

grkkll wrote: »

KMarble wrote: »

I have very small hands (about 15cm/3in from base of the thumb to the tip of the middle finger). I've been using a Logitec G600 for around 3 years now and have no complaints.

Despite the fact that I'm extremely left handed, I use the mouse with my right hand and found it easier to adapt to it than using a keyboard and normal mouse.

For me in ESO the 6 lower buttons on the side and the 3rd button on top are sufficient - 1 through 5 are skills, 6 to change bars and the 3rd button on top for X ( I bound it there for the blade of woe, but turns out, it's very nice to have synergies bound on the mouse too).

Before I got the Logitec I was worried that I'd would press the side buttons by accident when lifting or moving the mouse, but that is not the case.

So is my 602 a wireless version of the wired 600?

I don't think so. The G600 has 12 buttons on the side and a 3rd button on the top (left, right and an extra). From what you described the 602 is different.

Sorry for any typos. I have a cat on my lap.