Why is jewelary crafting so expensive? doing trials is painful.

francesinhalover

Every single trial i do, no one gives the perfected jewelary because they want it to gain money, it's constantly the same thing, and i have to beg.

Why is golding jewelary so expensive, or better purpling? making all 3 jewelary pieces purple alone is around 700k on eu pc.

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

psychotrip

francesinhalover wrote: »

Every single trial i do, no one gives the perfected jewelary because they want it to gain money, it's constantly the same thing, and i have to beg.

Why is golding jewelary so expensive, or better purpling? making all 3 jewelary pieces purple alone is around 600k on eu pc.

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Idk. Probably to encourage you to grind more? This is a AAA game after all. Engagement is their most important metric.

Dr_Con

Zircon plating rarely drops from JC writs, and the JC surveys alone are well worth it. I have enough to gold plate one set of jewelry (price right now is around 1.2mil to do this per item, so 3.6mil) and purple up a few sets and I'm not even a hardcore player. I would suggest either deconning cheap purple jewelry or relying on writs as part of your daily routine. Additionally, the vet trials I believe can drop purple jewelry, but also have a chance of gold jewelry from the weekly coffers- maybe strive for this instead.

freespirit

Even if you do no other daily crafting writs, do the jewelry ones on as many characters as possible!

I do 7 characters per day, I am self sufficient in platinum ingots, I average 2-3 chromium platings per week, never worry about zircon platings and have more iridium and terne than I can shake a stick at.

I collect my surveys and do them as and when I want to craft or upgrade an item. 😃

Aislinna

While plating may drop rarely from JC writ rewards, with 10 points in JC, purple and gold grains drop frequently for me from writs.

thedocbwarren

I find it much less grindy to keep saving and buy the zircon, etc. and farm money.

Arunei

Everyone saying "just do JC daily writs" needs to remember that you can't do them if you don't have Summerset. It's still locked behind that chapter.

OP, the devs had claimed they want JC to be worthwhile and meaningful, but like...why does it have to be "worthwhile" or "meaningful"? Why does it have to be so much more of a hassle than any other craft?

That said, others are perfectly within their rights to want to keep gold Jewels to sell. If someone says no then you shouldn't pester or beg them for it.

francesinhalover

freespirit wrote: »

Even if you do no other daily crafting writs, do the jewelry ones on as many characters as possible!

I do 7 characters per day, I am self sufficient in platinum ingots, I average 2-3 chromium platings per week, never worry about zircon platings and have more iridium and terne than I can shake a stick at.

I collect my surveys and do them as and when I want to craft or upgrade an item. 😃

do those chars need to be cp 160+ with maxed out jewelary

Amottica

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Amottica

francesinhalover wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Even if you do no other daily crafting writs, do the jewelry ones on as many characters as possible!

I do 7 characters per day, I am self sufficient in platinum ingots, I average 2-3 chromium platings per week, never worry about zircon platings and have more iridium and terne than I can shake a stick at.

I collect my surveys and do them as and when I want to craft or upgrade an item. 😃

do those chars need to be cp 160+ with maxed out jewelary

They need to be maxed out on Jewelry crafting and all points placed into the one slot for jewelry level which I think is Engraver.

Arunei

Amottica wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Again, not everyone is capable of doing these Writs because not everyone has access to Summerset. The fact that the system is still tied behind a system a few years old makes it hard for numerous people to fully engage with it and get the mats that others can get relatively easily if they do said Writs.

katanagirl1

Arunei wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Again, not everyone is capable of doing these Writs because not everyone has access to Summerset. The fact that the system is still tied behind a system a few years old makes it hard for numerous people to fully engage with it and get the mats that others can get relatively easily if they do said Writs.

I think at this point you only need ESO Plus right? If you are a crafter you will almost certainly already have that for the craft bag, and the extra bank and housing space.

EF321

There is enough stuff dropping, you are just not playing enough.

wolfie1.0.

francesinhalover wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Even if you do no other daily crafting writs, do the jewelry ones on as many characters as possible!

I do 7 characters per day, I am self sufficient in platinum ingots, I average 2-3 chromium platings per week, never worry about zircon platings and have more iridium and terne than I can shake a stick at.

I collect my surveys and do them as and when I want to craft or upgrade an item. 😃

do those chars need to be cp 160+ with maxed out jewelary

They need to be maxed out in jewelry, but do not necessarily need to be cp rank. I have quite a few that are sub cp levels and have jewelry maxed. It doesn't impact improvement item drop rates from my experience.

Arunei

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Again, not everyone is capable of doing these Writs because not everyone has access to Summerset. The fact that the system is still tied behind a system a few years old makes it hard for numerous people to fully engage with it and get the mats that others can get relatively easily if they do said Writs.

I think at this point you only need ESO Plus right? If you are a crafter you will almost certainly already have that for the craft bag, and the extra bank and housing space.

Not everyone has ESO+ (especially now, seems a lot of people are unsubbing because of u35), though many people who craft do. And if you don't have a sub and don't have Summerset you can't access JC writs and stuff. Honestly it should be base game at this point imo.

wolfie1.0.

Arunei wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Again, not everyone is capable of doing these Writs because not everyone has access to Summerset. The fact that the system is still tied behind a system a few years old makes it hard for numerous people to fully engage with it and get the mats that others can get relatively easily if they do said Writs.

We understand your point. But that doesn't mean that Amottica's point isn't valid. ZOS likely wont fix the issue, because they don't see it as an issue. Jewelry crafting was the key draw mechanism for the summerset dlc, just like greymoor has antiquities and high isle has ToT. Anytime anyone looking to buy dlcs asks which one they should prioritize I tell them summerset.

If your looking to maximize your return on investment I suggest waiting for the next chapter preorder. Historically they have an offering that includes all previous chapter releases in it. Which means you save some money on that.

Or farm the raw unrefined mats sell them, then buy the dlc for summerset using in game crown sellers.

Or sub to eso+ for two months and use the crowns you get from that time to buy summerset.

Maybe sometime in the future zos might make summerset base game, but I'll bet the do it like morrowind and it would only apply to new copies. Maybe they separate out the skill from the dlc like they did Warden or necro... but it likely would still be a crown unlock.

thorwyn

And if you don't have a sub and don't have Summerset you can't access JC writs and stuff.

You just need one week of "free eso+ for everyone" to certify your crafters. After that, you can do your JC writs and dailies in every other town.

EF321

thorwyn wrote: »

And if you don't have a sub and don't have Summerset you can't access JC writs and stuff.

You just need one week of "free eso+ for everyone" to certify your crafters. After that, you can do your JC writs and dailies in every other town.

You can't use jewelry station without access to summerset.

thorwyn

oops... ok.

Edit:
Tip for the OP if you just want the perfected drop for your sticker book...
Buy grains of chromium. Whenever someone gets golden jewelry during a trial (that he doesn't need for his sticker book), offer him a grain of chromium in exchange for the jewelry item.

wolfie1.0.

thorwyn wrote: »

oops... ok.

Edit:
Tip for the OP if you just want the perfected drop for your sticker book...
Buy grains of chromium. Whenever someone gets golden jewelry during a trial (that he doesn't need for his sticker book), offer him a grain of chromium in exchange for the jewelry item.

offer 2-3, or if its a really sought after set a whole plate. a lot of people would jump after a plating. If you are able to run content for perfected gear you should be able to grind out enough gold to get a few plating's equivalent rather quickly.

PrimusTiberius

My trial weapons and sets are gold and my jewelry is purple, I never gold out jewelry. ZOS keeps nerfing sets too often to grind for gold mats, it just isn't worth the headache for such a small gain.

markulrich1966

other ways beside daily writs:
cyrodiil. If your faction wins, and you reached tier 3 during the campaign, you get a box with 6 pieces of purple jewelry.
Deconstructing might give you 4 grains. If you do this on all 18 characters, this will be some platings.

Or farm dolmens. Put CP in the green tree to increase quality of items in treasure chests. Dolmen drop jewelry at every run.

redlink1979

Need gold platings/grains? You should craft jewelry writs, at max tier, often.

TheGreatBlackBear

Apart from the ways people described just doing random vet and deconning the loot is also a good way to passively stock up on zircon and purple mats in general. If you enjoy tel var farming you can also turn keys into zircon by opening treasure vaults and deconning the endurance and willpower jewllery that drops from there. In terms of chrome farming I'd honestly just recommend just farming the gold and buying the mats. It's a lot faster that way.

lunaslide

The prevalence of stockholm syndrome is amazing.

"OH, it's not that hard! You just need to do an hour or two of work *before* you can actually start playing the game to get the materials you want. Easy peasy!"



<weeps in harmony necro>

Kiralyn2000

lunaslide wrote: »

The prevalence of stockholm syndrome is amazing.

"OH, it's not that hard! You just need to do an hour or two of work *before* you can actually start playing the game to get the materials you want. Easy peasy!"

I'm mostly surprised about being being surprised about grinding in an MMO. Especially crafting systems. /shrug

opalcity

lunaslide wrote: »

The prevalence of stockholm syndrome is amazing.

"OH, it's not that hard! You just need to do an hour or two of work *before* you can actually start playing the game to get the materials you want. Easy peasy!"



<weeps in harmony necro>

Any game with crafting requires grinding. Be it harvesting materials to make the things you want, or earning enough currency to buy the things you want.

Ragnarok0130

psychotrip wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Every single trial i do, no one gives the perfected jewelary because they want it to gain money, it's constantly the same thing, and i have to beg.

Why is golding jewelary so expensive, or better purpling? making all 3 jewelary pieces purple alone is around 600k on eu pc.

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Idk. Probably to encourage you to grind more? This is a AAA game after all. Engagement is their most important metric.

The irony is that if ZoS would focus on fun player engagement would naturally follow and also produce happier players. Instead ZoS doubles down on grind and RNG to artificially drive player engagement.

Amottica

Arunei wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Why is golding jewelary so expensive

Summerset released years ago, plz fix this system.

Zenimax specifically stated that they wanted it upgrading of jewelry to be rarer and essentially more special than upgrading armor and weapons. That is the reasoning they gave for the number of materials required to upgrade jewelry. They cut the number of matters in half less than a year after Summerset's release.

In other words, Zenimax does not see it as broken, so they do not see there is anything to fix it. The best way to gain the upgrade materials is by doing daily jewelry writs and max level for jewelry crafting on every charter you have. It is quick and easy to do the one writ on each character. That is the best fix we will get any time soon.

Again, not everyone is capable of doing these Writs because not everyone has access to Summerset. The fact that the system is still tied behind a system a few years old makes it hard for numerous people to fully engage with it and get the mats that others can get relatively easily if they do said Writs.

Well, those who choose not to purchase Summerset or subscribe can always hope it will be given away for free like Morrowind seems to have been.