Crown Lethal Poison?

soulclaw

Does anyone use this? Am I missing something? It seems that as it suppresses the enchantment on a weapon and only has a 20% chance to tag the target it really isn't worth it.

Micah_Bayer

soulclaw wrote: »

Does anyone use this? Am I missing something? It seems that as it suppresses the enchantment on a weapon and only has a 20% chance to tag the target it really isn't worth it.

Using it with a charged staff means it'll proc like 80-90%

belial5221_ESO

I use em cause it's free and got loads for endeavors.

Carcamongus

I use it for those endeavors to kill a certain number of enemies with weapon poisons.

So, humm, I know it's possible to use poisons on staves, but how exactly can that make any sense? Your staff will shoot lightning laced with poison? Poisoned fireballs? Frozen cyanide?

Bekkael

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

I use em cause it's free and got loads for endeavors.

^ This. I use them only for Endeavors.

Timorelle

Only allow them to clog up my bank for endeavors +1

EnerG

I play stamina, so yeah they're usefully to me lol, on healer where u run charged backbar some poisons can be usefull in some fights too.

Ratzkifal

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

soulclaw wrote: »

Does anyone use this? Am I missing something? It seems that as it suppresses the enchantment on a weapon and only has a 20% chance to tag the target it really isn't worth it.

Using it with a charged staff means it'll proc like 80-90%

No it doesn't. You are thinking of the poisoned status effect. This is about weapon poisons and the chance to apply weapon poisons on hit, which is entirely different from status effects.

Crown Lethal Poisons, and Poisons in general, are very good on stamina damage dealers. They can crit, they scale with your stats, apply the poisoned status effect and their damage is generally solid. They suppress the enchantment because they deal a similar amount of damage as enchantments so it would be very overpowered if you still had enchantments on top of that. What is generally done is that your back bar weapon has an enchantment that increases your weapon and spell damage while your front bar weapon has Crown Lethal Poisons (or their craftable equivalent) on them. The stat boost from your back bar enchantment carries over to your front bar and buffs your skills and alchemical poison damage.
You can also use a damage enchantment instead if you prefer that, the difference is not that big.

SeaGtGruff

All poisons suppress weapon enchantments, not just Crown Lethal Poison. I keep a stack in my main's inventory so I can slap it on my weapon for the "weapon poisons" endeavors, as others have stated, and also when the Speaker of the Dark Brotherhood wants me to kill my target with poison.

bmnoble

I keep a storage chest for all the crown store stuff you get from daily log in rewards for later down the track when I might need them on future characters.

The crown poisons I keep in my mains inventory for the "apply weapon poison to X number of enemies" endeavors that is about it I will normally just use my enchantments always feels wasteful to use poisons in general, I don't even touch my potions unless its an emergency.

EF321

Yes, on character that runs Draugrkin's Grip, on character that runs Dragon's appetite, on character that is stamina necromancer, on character that is stamina templar who runs deadly and one that runs Assassin's guile.

Dr_Con

Escapist Poison IX for me! Maybe the crown lethal poison is fine in PVE but in PVP you need something more useful!

EF321

EF321 wrote: »

and one that runs Assassin's guile.

Oh no, actually not, that character only runs double dot poisons when not in Assassin's guile With AG he uses most loaded 3+3- poisons.

Auldwulfe

Bekkael wrote: »

belial5221_ESO wrote: »

I use em cause it's free and got loads for endeavors.

^ This. I use them only for Endeavors.

About the only use I do find for them.....

Auldwulfe

Djennku

Many builds utilize what we call double dot poisons. Lethal poisons are essentially the same thing, but come from a non-crafted source. The damage compared to a crafted double dot poison is exactly the same, so if any of your builds utilize them, they are definitely worth keeping.

whitecrow

I use them for endeavours, but I've never understood why they would be chosen over weapon effects.

Tenthirty2

Carcamongus wrote: »

...but how exactly can that make any sense? Your staff will shoot lightning laced with poison? Poisoned fireballs? Frozen cyanide?

• I have a talking skull sitting on my desk in my home.
• I ride a giant wolf made out of magical blue cotton candy.
• My companion is a humanoid talking cat that shoots lighting bolts. My home city is also full of talking cats.
• I have an invisible backpack that is capable of holding the materials and structures to make an entire castle, with drapes.
• I can eat an entire meal in 3 bites.
• There are unmotivated dragons terrorizing my back yard but only in 3 general areas.
• I can jump off cliffs and live.
• I can get caught stealing some guys coin purse, then murder him, teleport instantly to a city 100s of miles away and the guards there instantly know I've been a bad girl.
• I have died and come back to life 100s of times, wing-slapped and bitten by things with the equivalent mass of a Walmart. Been frozen, stabbed, hacked, burned, electrocuted, poisoned, turned to dust, cursed and diseased, yet I still have a perfectly flawless body.

So yeah, poisoned fireballs.

BXR_Lonestar

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

soulclaw wrote: »

Does anyone use this? Am I missing something? It seems that as it suppresses the enchantment on a weapon and only has a 20% chance to tag the target it really isn't worth it.

Using it with a charged staff means it'll proc like 80-90%

I didn't know that charged increased the chances of poison proccing. I thought it infused made it proc more often. Thanks for the info!

SeaGtGruff

whitecrow wrote: »

I use them for endeavours, but I've never understood why they would be chosen over weapon effects.

Weapon enchantments must be recharged every so often, and while Soul Gems are very easy to obtain for free in one way or another, a charge only lasts for so long.

In contrast, weapon poisons can be kept in stacks of 1K, IIRC, so if you put a stack of weapon poison on your weapon it can generally be used for much, much longer before you need to put a new stack of weapon poison on it as compared to how often you need to recharge a weapon enchantment.

That said, I do prefer my favorite weapon enchantment; I'm just giving one possible reason why someone might want to use a weapon poison instead.

rpa

I use it to afflict foes with weapon poisons when it is the silly task.

paulychan

i use those when I run out of detect pots and slot flare.

whitecrow

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

[*] I can eat an entire meal in 3 bites.

The most implausible.

Raammzzaa

I use them on the characters of mine that use poisons sometimes, but I usually don’t keep the others - there better as crown gems. I do value the tripots more.