Actually no that’s not it at all. It’s quite the opposite from being ‘it.’ Everybody pays less per month the more months you buy. It’s always been that way. Why the price in Turkey may have gone up I have no idea… and I have no idea about your economy or inflation. But inflation is basically an overabundance of money in an economy which leads to that nations currency equaling less compared to other countries’ currencies that there exists less of.
So if your country’s currency was currently inflating and Zos wanted to adjust turkey players prices to account for that… you would pay MORE per month for a 6 month package than you would buying 1 month at a time. Because your money will be worth less in the future than it is now… especially for someone that needs to exchange it into another country’s currency to spend it.
All of that aside… Zos is happy to let you pay less if you buy 6 months at a time because that’s one way they secure long term customers instead of short term customers. They determined they make more money that way -shrugs- I’m not going to argue with graphs I’ve never seen… are you?
It’s just bad luck my man. Just a hard time.
Actually no that’s not it at all. It’s quite the opposite from being ‘it.’ Everybody pays less per month the more months you buy. It’s always been that way. Why the price in Turkey may have gone up I have no idea… and I have no idea about your economy or inflation. But inflation is basically an overabundance of money in an economy which leads to that nations currency equaling less compared to other countries’ currencies that there exists less of.
The price difference between highest and lowest is obscene. Judging from the EU numbers, 42-43 is much more in line though 45 is a nice round number that takes a certain amount of exchange rate discrepencies into account. Just to give a per day comparison, I've compared EU tiers to those shown.
This is EU pricing:
This is the pricing as above:
This is the approximate as it should look, or has looked in the past:
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
Sure, that argument would make sense if all (or even most) of the work involved in providing ESO+ was local, but almost none of it is. The cost of providing ESO+ is pretty much the same regardless of where they're providing it.
ZOS doesn't have cheaper servers or cheaper development staff specifically for the Turkish market.
I get that they might want to have regionally lower prices based on customers' ability to pay, but there's only so much flexibility before they start losing money, and 45 liras seems like it's probably dropped below that threshold.
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
Sure, that argument would make sense if all (or even most) of the work involved in providing ESO+ was local, but almost none of it is. The cost of providing ESO+ is pretty much the same regardless of where they're providing it.
ZOS doesn't have cheaper servers or cheaper development staff specifically for the Turkish market.
I get that they might want to have regionally lower prices based on customers' ability to pay, but there's only so much flexibility before they start losing money, and 45 liras seems like it's probably dropped below that threshold.
To me, that also sounds like the most understandable reason. Even tho increase is way too much and I would %100 agree with you IF the prices for other plans has changed too. And I wouldn't mind slight price increase exactly for that reason.
If it was causing money loss for ZOS (which I am pretty sure it is not) then why the price is still same for other payment methods. That's why it makes no sense to me.
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
Sure, that argument would make sense if all (or even most) of the work involved in providing ESO+ was local, but almost none of it is. The cost of providing ESO+ is pretty much the same regardless of where they're providing it.
ZOS doesn't have cheaper servers or cheaper development staff specifically for the Turkish market.
I get that they might want to have regionally lower prices based on customers' ability to pay, but there's only so much flexibility before they start losing money, and 45 liras seems like it's probably dropped below that threshold.
To me, that also sounds like the most understandable reason. Even tho increase is way too much and I would %100 agree with you IF the prices for other plans has changed too. And I wouldn't mind slight price increase exactly for that reason.
If it was causing money loss for ZOS (which I am pretty sure it is not) then why the price is still same for other payment methods. That's why it makes no sense to me.
I think the lower prices for longer subs are probably a mistake and they'll go up eventually. For your sake, I hope I'm wrong though.
the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
Sure, that argument would make sense if all (or even most) of the work involved in providing ESO+ was local, but almost none of it is. The cost of providing ESO+ is pretty much the same regardless of where they're providing it.
ZOS doesn't have cheaper servers or cheaper development staff specifically for the Turkish market.
I get that they might want to have regionally lower prices based on customers' ability to pay, but there's only so much flexibility before they start losing money, and 45 liras seems like it's probably dropped below that threshold.
To me, that also sounds like the most understandable reason. Even tho increase is way too much and I would %100 agree with you IF the prices for other plans has changed too. And I wouldn't mind slight price increase exactly for that reason.
If it was causing money loss for ZOS (which I am pretty sure it is not) then why the price is still same for other payment methods. That's why it makes no sense to me.
Parrot1986 wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »the1andonlyskwex wrote: »Based on Google's exchange rates, it seems like other countries are paying the equivalent of 200+ liras per month. I get that people may be poorer in Turkey than in the US or the EU, but 45 liras still seems pretty low.
That said, I agree that the discrepancy between the 1 and 3+ month subscription options doesn't seem right.
They are not poorer in their own country. But they are indeed poorer when they step out of the borders. Other countries are paying 200+ liras per month but also they are earning equivalent to 5x more with their minimum salary. So please do not compare countries in that way.
It is indeed less for ZOS but such change also means losing that too. Steam regional pricing exists for a reason.
Sure, that argument would make sense if all (or even most) of the work involved in providing ESO+ was local, but almost none of it is. The cost of providing ESO+ is pretty much the same regardless of where they're providing it.
ZOS doesn't have cheaper servers or cheaper development staff specifically for the Turkish market.
I get that they might want to have regionally lower prices based on customers' ability to pay, but there's only so much flexibility before they start losing money, and 45 liras seems like it's probably dropped below that threshold.
To me, that also sounds like the most understandable reason. Even tho increase is way too much and I would %100 agree with you IF the prices for other plans has changed too. And I wouldn't mind slight price increase exactly for that reason.
If it was causing money loss for ZOS (which I am pretty sure it is not) then why the price is still same for other payment methods. That's why it makes no sense to me.
This is pretty tough and would be great is ZoS would provide an update as to what drives their costs.
As has been called out there’s no “on-site” costs for operating in turkey however the lira to dollar history has been pretty volatile in the last 6 months and may be a driver since lira has gone from 10 lira to 1 USD to 18 to 1 USD in under a year.
The cost for ZoS doesn’t really change but they will forecast their subscription revenue in USD and this almost halves the true amount they make from Turkish players.
I’m speculating with this mind you but it could be the cause of the increase albeit the increase seems to either take into account further changes in the rates or claw back money lost. Either way not great for those in countries with more volatile currencies in general.
This would make the most sense. According to exchange rates, as you said, a 30 day subscription at 12.99 EUR would cost around 237 TRY. GBP to TRY would also work out at around 216 and USD's 14.99 would be 268 TRY. Obviously there are regional prices to consider, which might explain why it's "only" 129.00 rather than 200+. Similar, for @Caelnir's sake, I hope it's wrong, but it would seem likely that the rest of the options are low and that these will eventually take a hike.the1andonlyskwex wrote: »I think the lower prices for longer subs are probably a mistake and they'll go up eventually. For your sake, I hope I'm wrong though.
Your reaction is for 200% sudden increase for monthly sub, which is understandable.
But we all know that Steam and ESO keeps the exchange rate so low for years, instead of gradual increase they choose to freeze it until there is no way they can hold. But still they keep the yearly sub same as almost 3-4 years (BTW thank you ZOS & Steam).
From these prices I can asume, ZOS wants Turkish players to sub at least 3 months, they use price tool to adjust it.
Well sadly the prices make sense based on the current exchange rates, and it will probably increase more if the exchange rate goes up for the said currency.