LG OLED monitor, transparent UI options or mods? burn-in

bathynomusESO

I have a new LG OLED monitor. To help prevent burn-in, are there any options to make the UI transparent or mods that can do this? I have all the safety protections turned on for the screen and also run a screensaver (which sometimes crashes the game).

MEBengalsFan2001

My recommendation is not buying an OLED monitor. You should of gone laser projector. That is where TV technology is heading.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Azura's lets you unlock and move just about anything in the UI. Not a perfect solution, but you could certainly manually move the obvious ones a little bit every once in a while.

Addons like FTC also give you a fair amount of control over unit frames and that sort of thing, I haven't dug too deep into the settings, but you can certainly change size, color, etc.

danno8

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

My recommendation is not buying an OLED monitor. You should of gone laser projector. That is where TV technology is heading.

Tremendously unhelpful.

Anyway, to the OP I believe Azurah can do what you want.

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info602-Azurah-InterfaceEnhanced.html

bathynomusESO

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

My recommendation is not buying an OLED monitor. You should of gone laser projector. That is where TV technology is heading.

I have an LG laser projector, 120", for movies. It is awesome, but still not as nice as the OLED for gaming. Once you go OLED, everything else seems like garbage. I also tried the Samsung QN90A and it was garbage compared to the LG OLED. Thankfully, I got a full refund.

katanagirl1

OLEDs are supposedly bad for burn-in with persistent things like compass on screen, which is why I did not buy one for gaming with ESO.

Hotdog_23

katanagirl1 wrote: »

OLEDs are supposedly bad for burn-in with persistent things like compass on screen, which is why I did not buy one for gaming with ESO.

In the same boat as you are in and play on PS5. Would love to use OLED but to afraid to use it. Keep holding off buying a new TV waiting for technology to improve.

Stay safe

ADarklore

Funny, I still have ghost images of FFXIV UI and iHeart radio (before they went icon friendly). However, over all the hours and hours of playing ESO, I actually do not find any ghost images of ESO UI on my LG OLED.

My next TV will NOT be an OLED, period. I went with it back in early 2018 because it was rated as the 'best gaming TV' which IMO is dumb, sure the speed is there, BUT... so is the burn-in if you play the same game for months. Great for game-hoppers, bad for MMO players.

bathynomusESO

ADarklore wrote: »

Funny, I still have ghost images of FFXIV UI and iHeart radio (before they went icon friendly). However, over all the hours and hours of playing ESO, I actually do not find any ghost images of ESO UI on my LG OLED.

My next TV will NOT be an OLED, period. I went with it back in early 2018 because it was rated as the 'best gaming TV' which IMO is dumb, sure the speed is there, BUT... so is the burn-in if you play the same game for months. Great for game-hoppers, bad for MMO players.

There are some protection features built in to the LG. Logo dimming, Screen Move and Pixel Cleaning. I owned my LG CX for about 2 years, until I accidentally broke it. I gamed a lot on that thing and never saw any burn-in. I now have the C2. The static UI elements do change when I do crafting, bank, etc. Also, my screensaver does kick in quite a bit throughout the day, waiting in queues.

Thecompton73

I've had an LG C9 OLED for a bit over two years now, have done plenty of gaming on it and there is no burn in so far. Even the static elements of the ESO UI get displaced when entering loading screens or what not.
Unless you're playing 10+ hours a day and never zoning or opening up the inventory menu's I don't think you'll have much to worry about.

Tommy_The_Gun

There is a function in the game that disables HUD. It is not assigned to any button by default, so you would have to go to controls settings in game and assign a button for it (it is called "UI On/Off").

I know it is probably not what you are looking for, but it may be a temporary substitute for a "transparent" UI, if you are afraid that for example crosshair will burn in the middle of the screen or something.

Note: This toggle for UI on/off is very useful for taking screenshots

danno8

Thecompton73 wrote: »

I've had an LG C9 OLED for a bit over two years now, have done plenty of gaming on it and there is no burn in so far. Even the static elements of the ESO UI get displaced when entering loading screens or what not.
Unless you're playing 10+ hours a day and never zoning or opening up the inventory menu's I don't think you'll have much to worry about.

Burn in on OLEDs are cumulative though. 10 years of 1 hour per day is the same as 1 year of 10 hours per day for an OLED. Doesn't matter if those 10 hours were all in a row or 1 hour on then 1 hour off for 20 hours.

But it looks like Azurah has a global opacity function, and a per item opacity function as well.

Micah_Bayer

bathynomusESO wrote: »

I have a new LG OLED monitor. To help prevent burn-in, are there any options to make the UI transparent or mods that can do this? I have all the safety protections turned on for the screen and also run a screensaver (which sometimes crashes the game).

I have had the Oled CX for 2 years now, and i have played eso since then. Trust me, and don't worry about burn in. Hasn't happened to me, and it won't happen to you. OLEDs can reduce brightness on static images naturally, so the ui stuff doesn't effect it. Look it up.

spacefracking

bathynomusESO wrote: »

I have a new LG OLED monitor. To help prevent burn-in, are there any options to make the UI transparent or mods that can do this? I have all the safety protections turned on for the screen and also run a screensaver (which sometimes crashes the game).

should have gotten one of those machines that shines custom focused images for your retina in. they're like, the size of a teacup, they've been out since 2035

unless you can afford the contact lenses, but idk about the resolution on those

Thecompton73

danno8 wrote: »

Thecompton73 wrote: »

I've had an LG C9 OLED for a bit over two years now, have done plenty of gaming on it and there is no burn in so far. Even the static elements of the ESO UI get displaced when entering loading screens or what not.
Unless you're playing 10+ hours a day and never zoning or opening up the inventory menu's I don't think you'll have much to worry about.

Burn in on OLEDs are cumulative though. 10 years of 1 hour per day is the same as 1 year of 10 hours per day for an OLED. Doesn't matter if those 10 hours were all in a row or 1 hour on then 1 hour off for 20 hours.

But it looks like Azurah has a global opacity function, and a per item opacity function as well.

With how fast display technology evolves 10 years is ancient for a TV now so I'm not worried about 8 more years down the road because I'm sure I'll have upgraded by then.

katanagirl1

When we were shopping for the 4K TV, I saw all those OLED TVs with the demos running on them with honey dippers and such. Really hard to compare to the other TVs running stuff you’d be more likely to see on your TV, like a soccer match. We ended up getting a ginormous 85” Sony TV with full array LED backlighting. It looks just as good edge-on as when sitting directly in front of it.

No regrets whatsoever.

ADarklore

Sadly, FFXIV doesn't have much for UI changing... at least last time I played, perhaps it's better now. But your UI was pretty much static, and considering I game for 10+ hours a day on my days off, over a couple of years burn-in definitely occurred. Same with iHeart radio, before it went screen-saver friendly.

I just know my next TV will NOT be an OLED. For one, my first screen developed a line about six months after purchase, then had to jump through hoops to get service to come out and replace the entire screen. Been about four years now on this current screen, so far, so good. Second, the danger of screen burn-in by games that are not icon friendly due to the number of hours I game in a given day.

RinaldoGandolphi

Oled just like amoled you can prevent burn in by simply reducing brightness and contrast. Most folks run their TV toi high on both of those settings. Samsung for example ships their TV with defaults that will prevent burn in.

Image retention can happen in some cases but it's temporary and goes away. If you leave the contrast and brightness settings at factory default you have nothing to worry about with burn in. Lastly, many oled TV have a game mode setting that takes into account static images in games and with detect and dynamically reduce and optimize those parts of the screen to prevent burn in and account for those areas.

danno8

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Oled just like amoled you can prevent burn in by simply reducing brightness and contrast. Most folks run their TV toi high on both of those settings. Samsung for example ships their TV with defaults that will prevent burn in.

Image retention can happen in some cases but it's temporary and goes away. If you leave the contrast and brightness settings at factory default you have nothing to worry about with burn in. Lastly, many oled TV have a game mode setting that takes into account static images in games and with detect and dynamically reduce and optimize those parts of the screen to prevent burn in and account for those areas.

I'm always surprised people don't use the built in ambient lighting sensor most TVs have these days to increase or decrease the backlight or oled brightness based on the room brightness.

Not only does it let you see the screen better in a bright room and prevents your eyes being stabbed by a too bright screen in low light, but it has the added benefit of increasing the life of your TV and/or preventing burn in.

danno8

Thecompton73 wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Thecompton73 wrote: »

I've had an LG C9 OLED for a bit over two years now, have done plenty of gaming on it and there is no burn in so far. Even the static elements of the ESO UI get displaced when entering loading screens or what not.
Unless you're playing 10+ hours a day and never zoning or opening up the inventory menu's I don't think you'll have much to worry about.

Burn in on OLEDs are cumulative though. 10 years of 1 hour per day is the same as 1 year of 10 hours per day for an OLED. Doesn't matter if those 10 hours were all in a row or 1 hour on then 1 hour off for 20 hours.

But it looks like Azurah has a global opacity function, and a per item opacity function as well.

With how fast display technology evolves 10 years is ancient for a TV now so I'm not worried about 8 more years down the road because I'm sure I'll have upgraded by then.

I have a 14 year old Dynex lcd in the kids room that they inherited when I bought my 6 year old Samsung j6300. So for me longevity is important, both $$ wise and e-junk wise.

I wish there were better ways to recycle these old technologies responsibly. But there aren't, so I try to squeeze as much life out of them as possible.

The best part of waiting though is every new by tends to be a huge upgrade.

WiseSky

AW3423DW is the way to go

Look up the UI section in this addon list and other ones

cptscotty

seriously...dont use it as a computer monitor. Just dont. No matter what you do, you are going to have static elements. Even if its just a dark spot from where your character is on the screen.

Also...you dont use the sensor for backlight because it messes up the calibration for accurate colors. Some other issues with it as well, but thats one of the main reasons why its recommended you dont use it.

licenturion

I have a LG OLED TV as well for 3 years now.

Amazing for movies and series. Terrible for gaming. I play a lot of overwatch and almost all UI elements are burned in when I look at yellow or red images.

All those software remediations functions do almost nothing. The only way to play games on OLED is turning saturation and brightness way down so that a colourful games looks like a greyscale instagram picture with all the life OLED is supposed to bring sucked out of it.

bathynomusESO

I bought this monitor specifically for gaming. The old version never had one bit of burn in (over 2 years). I now have the 2022 version. The built in protections do work, but I am always trying to help mitigate any damage/burn-in. It is the most beautiful picture you will ever see for movies or gaming. It looks completely real. Those who have never experienced OLED, you have no idea of the picture quality. It is ultra-realistic.