What is the point of all the body markings if armor covers them up??

stewhead2ub17_ESO

I realize I may be late to this party but was rolling up a new character and realized I have all these body markings "collectibles" but they will be covered by armor I am wearing. Am I missing something or is there now a way to hide your armor display?

[edited for profanity bypass]

FluffWit

Theres quite a few motifs/ style pages/ outfits that leave you topless or near topless.

zaria

Its plenty of armor and outfit styles who show lots of skin.
Bosmer light armor is an cheap one.

Geldauran

I was thinking the same thing too.

While there might be some items that can show more skin, they still cover up most of the body.

They could maybe find a way to toggle on/off certain pieces like other games or have gear that appear invisible like in FFXIV, but that might be too difficult and there's console limitations to consider

AinSoph

No, because having the ability to hide every armor part will ruin people's immersion or some dumb reason.

OsUfi

Although my Argonian lady uses the Mazzatan chest, and I totally understand wanting to see body markings, I really like that ESO isn't the metal bikini clad world of so many MMOs. After trying a few Korean games especially, the lack of combat stilettos and boobplate was nice.

oldbobdude

About the only one is the Nordic bath towel one. And it’s not very beautiful. Lol. Skins, body markings, tattoos. Waste.

I have a bald toon. I’d like a head tattoo. Don’t see one.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

FluffWit wrote: »

Theres quite a few motifs/ style pages/ outfits that leave you topless or near topless.

Interestingly enough, I have many motifs/style pages/outfits and in checking through them all not a one would work for my new character

SeaGtGruff

My main character is a Breton whose torso, arms, and legs are so heavily tattooed that when I remove all of his armor (and do not wear any other clothes or outfits) it sort of looks like he's got some kind of skin-tight outfit on.

Of course, none of it is visible when he's wearing his armor, but he loves to strip naked and show off his tattoos during the New Life Festival. He says it's for the Snow Bear Plunge, but I think he just likes running around naked.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

lol my wife just laughed at me and said "real men fight naked"

theoriginalpickle

I try amd strip my toons town to as little as possible, most of them are wearing the egg sister bias outfit when its dyed pretty colours even better to show off skin changers and collectibles.

TaSheen

There's the Sai Sahan jack (which might be available on traders), the Scorianite Gladiator jack (not in crown store right now), Fang Lair jerkin, Dead-Water jerkin, Mazzatun jerkin, Crimson Oath jerkin and the aforementioned Bosmer jerkin.

Hapexamendios

Skimpy costumes

NotaDaedraWorshipper

There's a lot of costumes and styles that shows skin.

I'm also curious, because I've seen people make this point before, but why do you need/want to show the markings as much as possible? A lot of people who are tattooed don't need or want to run around naked to show all of theirs.
Having a bit of markings showing here and there on a nice costume or outfit can be a nice accessory. But then, I also dislike this symmetrical whole body stockings markings are lately.

AinSoph wrote: »

No, because having the ability to hide every armor part will ruin people's immersion or some dumb reason.

The majority of people want the ability to hide parts of armour. Moreso the people who mainly think from an immersion point of view are roleplayers and lore nerds, and we definitely want the ability to hide pieces of armour to get the look we want and even see npcs have.

spartaxoxo

OsUfi wrote: »

Although my Argonian lady uses the Mazzatan chest, and I totally understand wanting to see body markings, I really like that ESO isn't the metal bikini clad world of so many MMOs. After trying a few Korean games especially, the lack of combat stilettos and boobplate was nice.

Very much agree.

BlueRaven

And you can go sleeveless as well.

Nightowl_74

I bought the Graht-Climbers Active Wear as something to put on so I can actually see most of the body markings I've collected. I'd really like an option to hide armor pieces because I agree, there's not much available if you want to see the entire design. I'm much more interested in collecting body markings than making outfits; I've made a total of one outfit in the five years or so I've been playing.

FluffWit

FluffWit

Shoulda probably an nsw tag on that one. My bad.

ElvenOverlord

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

FeedbackOnly

Sai's outfit style works really well

stewhead2ub17_ESO

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

BlueRaven

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

So something like this then?



(I know you said "hillman" but that is still a fairly wide field in eso.)

That took me 10 minutes of me looking through costumes, and some quick dyes.

Just thumb through the motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you. Then just go acquire that item.
There is no “grinding” involved that is more stressful than going to a department store and trying on some clothes.

I really don’t understand your complaint. There are options, some cheap options as well, that can show off what you want to.

Kiralyn2000

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

I'm also curious, because I've seen people make this point before, but why do you need/want to show the markings as much as possible? A lot of people who are tattooed don't need or want to run around naked to show all of theirs.

Because, unlike with tattoos IRL, the point of buying cosmetics in games is almost always to show them off.



(re: hiding armor... I mostly just want to hide Shoulders & Gloves. For more control over the aesthetics & balance of certain outfits. If I want to show off tattoos, I've got several of the revealing motifs & costumes.)

ElvenOverlord

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

I mean for people who don't want to put in any effort to earn sets I can see how its an issue.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

@BlueRaven

BlueRaven wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

So something like this then?



(I know you said "hillman" but that is still a fairly wide field in eso.)

That took me 10 minutes of me looking through costumes, and some quick dyes.

Just thumb through the motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you. Then just go acquire that item.
There is no “grinding” involved that is more stressful than going to a department store and trying on some clothes.

I really don’t understand your complaint. There are options, some cheap options as well, that can show off what you want to.

Per your example, no. Not like that really. That's kind of my secondary point. Say for this character I don't want any upper body armor (including shoulders) nor would he be wearing a full length skirt. I simply don't think it's prudent to have to "thumb through motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you", when really a simple "hide armor piece" option would do the trick. I have oodles of motifs and costumes already. I don't think one should have to "just go acquire that item". At this stage of ESO's life some simple no brainer QOL options are long overdue.

BlueRaven

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

@BlueRaven

BlueRaven wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

So something like this then?



(I know you said "hillman" but that is still a fairly wide field in eso.)

That took me 10 minutes of me looking through costumes, and some quick dyes.

Just thumb through the motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you. Then just go acquire that item.
There is no “grinding” involved that is more stressful than going to a department store and trying on some clothes.

I really don’t understand your complaint. There are options, some cheap options as well, that can show off what you want to.

Per your example, no. Not like that really. That's kind of my secondary point. Say for this character I don't want any upper body armor (including shoulders) nor would he be wearing a full length skirt. I simply don't think it's prudent to have to "thumb through motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you", when really a simple "hide armor" option would do the trick. I have oodles of motifs and costumes already. I don't think one should have to "just go acquire that item". At this stage of ESO's life some simple no brainer QOL options are long overdue.

I get that you want a "hide shoulder" option. (Many players do.) But that is it's own topic really. There are shoulders that are pretty minimal (my go to for minimal shoulders is the mercenary shoulders), so to make do there is that.

But compared to other mmo's and games, the transmog here in eso is pretty good, I think.

I mean, if I can make "Iron Man"...





You just need to put some effort into it, and get a touch creative. There is a fashion thread here on the forums, try to copy one of those?

starkerealm

Geldauran wrote: »

I was thinking the same thing too.

While there might be some items that can show more skin, they still cover up most of the body.

They could maybe find a way to toggle on/off certain pieces like other games or have gear that appear invisible like in FFXIV, but that might be too difficult and there's console limitations to consider

I don't think this is a technical constraint. During a developer livestream back in 2018, the internal build shown had the ability to hide some slots that, cannot be hidden in the live build of the game (shoulders, and belts, I think?) I suppose it's theoretically possible that some issue came up during testing, but since we do still have the ability to hide helmets, I somewhat doubt it.

spartaxoxo

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

@BlueRaven

BlueRaven wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

So something like this then?



(I know you said "hillman" but that is still a fairly wide field in eso.)

That took me 10 minutes of me looking through costumes, and some quick dyes.

Just thumb through the motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you. Then just go acquire that item.
There is no “grinding” involved that is more stressful than going to a department store and trying on some clothes.

I really don’t understand your complaint. There are options, some cheap options as well, that can show off what you want to.

Per your example, no. Not like that really. That's kind of my secondary point. Say for this character I don't want any upper body armor (including shoulders) nor would he be wearing a full length skirt. I simply don't think it's prudent to have to "thumb through motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you", when really a simple "hide armor" option would do the trick. I have oodles of motifs and costumes already. I don't think one should have to "just go acquire that item". At this stage of ESO's life some simple no brainer QOL options are long overdue.

They don't want people running around naked, and I think that's pretty valid. It's not the style choice for every game. They have tried to provide more options for skimpier costumes as of late, so that there are more ways to show off tats.

spartaxoxo

BlueRaven wrote: »

That is a killer Iron Man

stewhead2ub17_ESO

@spartaxoxo I whole heartedly agree that the

spartaxoxo wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

@BlueRaven

BlueRaven wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

...um just get any armor that doesn't cover up your body tattoos?

Umm should we really have to do that though? Should we have to go investigate and grind armor sets simply to find one that will do for the theme of a character? In this case it's a hillman tribal type char with tribal tats that are displayed. The fact that we accumulate all these "body markings" and such, yet have to find ways to display them is simply ludicrous.

So something like this then?



(I know you said "hillman" but that is still a fairly wide field in eso.)

That took me 10 minutes of me looking through costumes, and some quick dyes.

Just thumb through the motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you. Then just go acquire that item.
There is no “grinding” involved that is more stressful than going to a department store and trying on some clothes.

I really don’t understand your complaint. There are options, some cheap options as well, that can show off what you want to.

Per your example, no. Not like that really. That's kind of my secondary point. Say for this character I don't want any upper body armor (including shoulders) nor would he be wearing a full length skirt. I simply don't think it's prudent to have to "thumb through motifs and costumes until you find something that suits you", when really a simple "hide armor" option would do the trick. I have oodles of motifs and costumes already. I don't think one should have to "just go acquire that item". At this stage of ESO's life some simple no brainer QOL options are long overdue.

They don't want people running around naked, and I think that's pretty valid. It's not the style choice for every game. They have tried to provide more options for skimpier costumes as of late, so that there are more ways to show off tats.

To your point, I have never seen anything from ZOS stating this type of reasoning, so IMO that is simply conjecture. Secondly no character would be "naked" unless some new animation was coded in, & third even if you wish to run around in your boxers, that's entirely up to you. While you or I may find it distasteful or silly, it's entirely your choice. Lastly this is a "M" rated MMO with plenty of adult themes, so let us not hide behind the "what about the children?" excuse for a reason.