Infinite Mist Form

OnGodiDoDis

Or more precisely, the Blood Mist morph, has become a popular build amongst people that wish to avoid combat. Although recovery is disabled while in this form, the caster can still restore resources via sets and skills. This effectively allows the player to remain in said form for unprecedented periods of time. Granted, this is a type of tank build, but there are a few disparities between a traditional Sword and Board tank build and infinite Mist Form. The main caviat with the latter is that it has only one vulnerability: negate. Healing is no problem while in this form, because the AoE heals the player. A traditional tank is prone to unblockable stuns, therefore that tank is forced to consider such threats, and properly build with that in mind. A Mist Form "tank" cannot be affected with suck stuns, leaving negate the only option available. Since unblockable stuns are much more accessible than a negate because only one class has it, it begins to become aparent that Mist Form "tanks" face very few threats. There have been many instances on EP Keeps on Xbox NA when we have AD or DC Mist Form "tanks" inside them for hours. A regular tank, while hard to kill (if the player is good), is not unkillable. The power to never run out of resources while taking almost zero damage is not an ability that anyone should have. There aren't always coordinated groups running around ready to drop a coordinated assault on Mist Form "tanks". When the Mist Form "tanks" were in our keeps, even after we killed one, the other simply had a resurrection ultimate ready for his dead comrade. It became a never-ending chase around the keep for longer than was necessary. Either disable any recovery and restoration during Mist Form, disable the healing of the AoE, or implement a ramping cost after 10 seconds. 10 seconds should be enough to get out of danger, allowing anyone to line-of-sight and heal. Anything more than that is unwarranted. It is effectively allowing players to disregard the mechanics of being in a combat scenario by giving them the benefit of completely disregarding resource management. This type of build gives players more survivability and mobility than an actual tank, all because of one skill.

xFocused

Players in zone chat have been referring to these as "Fart Cloud tanks" and I think it's hilarious. It's honestly just nothing more than another troll tank build. They don't put out any damage, just get players to chase them or distract them from their siege and so forth.

Metemsycosis

When you make posts like this you're more likely to worsen the problem than make it better.

SkaraMinoc

Metemsycosis wrote: »

When you make posts like this you're more likely to worsen the problem than make it better.

As an experiment, I just tried Mist Form with Witchman Armor and Bloodspawn on an Oaken Resto Ult build and it didn't work too well. You don't regen ultimate fast enough to outheal incoming damage from players.

I wonder what sets people are using.

geonsocal

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

When you make posts like this you're more likely to worsen the problem than make it better.

I wonder what sets people are using.

OnGodiDoDis

Metemsycosis wrote: »

When you make posts like this you're more likely to worsen the problem than make it better.

You're right, I should link the sets so that it becomes a bigger problem so that it gets fixed faster.

EF321

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

When you make posts like this you're more likely to worsen the problem than make it better.

As an experiment, I just tried Mist Form with Witchman Armor and Bloodspawn on an Oaken Resto Ult build and it didn't work too well. You don't regen ultimate fast enough to outheal incoming damage from players.

I wonder what sets people are using.

Pretty sure it is Desert Rose with spell cost reduction glyphs.

Necrotech_Master

ive also heard darloc brae works if you crouch before going into mist form

Casul

Could also use the heavy armor set from RoM.

EF321

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ive also heard darloc brae works if you crouch before going into mist form

Could not make this work. There might be some trick to it, of course, but just toggling mist from crouch or while starting to crouch did not work, it cancels crouch.

Necrotech_Master

EF321 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

ive also heard darloc brae works if you crouch before going into mist form

Could not make this work. There might be some trick to it, of course, but just toggling mist from crouch or while starting to crouch did not work, it cancels crouch.

thats what ive heard too, that its kind of gimmicky, but never been able to replicate myself

OnGodiDoDis

Templar or Warden for the magicka return with Channeling Focus or Betty Netch. Stage 4 Vamp for the Blood Mist cost reduction. Cost reduction glyphs on swift jewelry. Either Gaze of Sithis or Wild Hunt for tankiness or speed, respectively. Since Blood Mist doesn't grant Major Expedition, but heals you instead. Celerity. Desert Rose. Flare for Major Protection. Temporal Guard for Minor Protection. And one last secret set:

Metemsycosis

Vampire lord or warlock.