Is there any point of Werewolf anymore with oakensoul ring?

Darcwolf

I was messing around with builds last night and realized that there was honestly no advantage to WW anymore. All the buffs you get as WW you get with oakensoul ring, and on top of that when you are in WW you miss out on other buffs, like passive class buffs when a class skill is equipped. If I'm wrong please show me how, but I'm kinda dissapointed

haelgaan

there's always RP... which was almost all that WW or vamp had going for them, imo... either you're playing them for fun, or for a very niche application

Laexas

They will nerf sorcerer and werewolf, for my is a 2x1


I dont have high isle but i think that the new oaken soul is not worth

etchedpixels

The PTS nerfs Oakensoul a lot because it was ridiculously overpowered.

The LA changes may also really hurt WW though, remains to be seen and tested a lot more, as we see where the changes end up.

kingsirdrmr

I still love perma-wolf for fun and think even nerfed Oakensoul can help them, but I've never considered them to be better in any situation than a traditional build. Except for werewolf groups in IC.

Laexas

I tried ww on pts and they literally killed us

DairyCat

The light attack changes hurt WW more than Oakensoul. A WW is still stronger with Oaken then without.

francesinhalover

Loses dmg from bound armaments nerfs
Plus light attack nerfs. Werewolf lost what, 25- 30% of his dps?

renne

Darcwolf wrote: »

I was messing around with builds last night and realized that there was honestly no advantage to WW anymore. All the buffs you get as WW you get with oakensoul ring, and on top of that when you are in WW you miss out on other buffs, like passive class buffs when a class skill is equipped. If I'm wrong please show me how, but I'm kinda dissapointed

It shouldn't have worked with werewolf in the first place as one bar is literally a feature not a bug of werewolves.

Jaraal

etchedpixels wrote: »

The PTS nerfs Oakensoul a lot because it was ridiculously overpowered.

The LA changes may also really hurt WW though, remains to be seen and tested a lot more, as we see where the changes end up.

Yes, light attack being the werewolf’s primary source of damage means the U35 nerfs will hit them pretty hard. However, the changes to Oakensoul are actually a benefit to werewolf, as now there will be more Minor buffs to stack with the ww’s native Major buffs, with less redundancy.

FluffWit

My Cyrodiil werewolf buddies never switched, they're still in Sithis.

Only difference is they actually get killed occasionally now. Like they can no longer 1v6 consistently. It sure seems more balanced to me.

Amdar_Godkiller

WW needs permanent empower as well as the ability to provide a unique minor empower buff to their group, IMO, to help counteract the LA/HA nerf.

etchedpixels

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

WW needs permanent empower as well as the ability to provide a unique minor empower buff to their group, IMO, to help counteract the LA/HA nerf.

Running a non WW tank/heal with Galenwe and WW dps always worked fine.

Amdar_Godkiller

etchedpixels wrote: »

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

WW needs permanent empower as well as the ability to provide a unique minor empower buff to their group, IMO, to help counteract the LA/HA nerf.

Running a non WW tank/heal with Galenwe and WW dps always worked fine.

Yeah that's a great setup for group WW especially if they aren't using the light attack buffing synergy, but I'm speaking more with a mind for small scale and solo PVP. There's no way WW can be effective in cyrodil with 1K light attacks after Battle spirit. It's a death nail.