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Could we please get an Armory station in Cyrodil?
QuantumPie
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The armory addition was an amazing change but its been a few patches now and we still don't have one at the base camps in Cyrodil. Would it be possible to include one in the next patch? I frequently swap between the roles of healer and speeder on the same character and it's a little annoying to have to port out of Cyrodil, port into my house, and then re-queue. I feel like adding that would take very little time and would be extremely helpful to players!
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on July 12, 2022 1:55AM 13
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LogicOfLiam✭✭✭I understand why they don't add the Armory Assistant to Cyrodil. But maybe an Armory station at each of the gates upon your alliance would be a good idea.10 -
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✭✭✭It would be nice when trying a new build. I did that today and quickly realized it wasn’t going to work and needed to make some changes. I had to leave Cyrodiil, get my Armory guy out, change the build, then re-queue into Cyrodiil.
There wasn’t a long wait but during prime time it could have been much worse.
Khajiit Stamblade main
Dark Elf Magsorc
Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
Orc Stamplar PVP
Breton Magsorc PVP
Dark Elf Magden
Khajiit Stamblade
Khajiit Stamina Arcanist
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FluffWit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I pointed out this would be neccesary before it was even added.
Proper pvpers cant do jack **** in pve on their pvp builds. If we're looking at 30-60 minute waits to get in we dont wanna be checking every two minutes where the queues at so we can decide when to switch out.
Theres a really simple solution. Make the armory assistant accessible in the Sanguine portal. We already use that work around so we can pop xp buffing mementos (tools these days) without leaving Cyrodiil during events.3 -
Aislinna✭✭✭✭✭I pointed out this would be neccesary before it was even added.
Proper pvpers cant do jack **** in pve on their pvp builds. If we're looking at 30-60 minute waits to get in we dont wanna be checking every two minutes where the queues at so we can decide when to switch out.
Theres a really simple solution. Make the armory assistant accessible in the Sanguine portal. We already use that work around so we can pop xp buffing mementos (tools these days) without leaving Cyrodiil during events.
What/Where is a Sanguine portal in Cyrodiil?0 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭I pointed out this would be neccesary before it was even added.
Proper pvpers cant do jack **** in pve on their pvp builds. If we're looking at 30-60 minute waits to get in we dont wanna be checking every two minutes where the queues at so we can decide when to switch out.
Theres a really simple solution. Make the armory assistant accessible in the Sanguine portal. We already use that work around so we can pop xp buffing mementos (tools these days) without leaving Cyrodiil during events.
What/Where is a Sanguine portal in Cyrodiil?
Not sure 🤔 if he meant a delve or the spot where you learn to use Volendrung from Sheo. I just think like the OP add a armory station or give each alliances War General an armory tab. (Similar to the Orc companion). Adds some dialogue flair to it, Soldier “we need healers out there”, “ready to scout some bases for Daggerfall”, “Siege reinforcements needed at…” etc etc.
Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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FluffWit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah sorry Sheogoraths portal by the daily quest boards.
Obviously a station would be the best solution. But I don't think they'll give us one so I'm just offering a work around.2 -
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✭✭✭My guess is the reason ZOS did not add this, is so players who aren't going to PvP won't be standing around taking a PvP-player their spot in Cyrodiil. As the number of players in Cyrodiil is limited. Same with PvP players creating builds at an armory station in Cyrodiil, this would take them out of the PvP scene for a while.
It is better to keep those limited spots for actual PvPers, than to have players on various alliances standing around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot. Possibly tilting the balance to one side, depending on which alliance would at that moment have more players standing around not PvPing.
Edit: This could also be abused, by having friends or guildmates from other alliances stand around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot of the opposite alliance.Edited by Sarannah on July 10, 2022 9:27AM0 -
kevkj✭✭✭✭My guess is the reason ZOS did not add this, is so players who aren't going to PvP won't be standing around taking a PvP-player their spot in Cyrodiil. As the number of players in Cyrodiil is limited. Same with PvP players creating builds at an armory station in Cyrodiil, this would take them out of the PvP scene for a while.
There's crafting stations in each base. There's the golden vendor on weekends. Every couple of days there is a daily endeavour to complete a PVE daily quest in a town.
I don't think they really care if someone is taking up a spot not PVP-ing.7 -
Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
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There is a major difference between all of those. Crafting something or checking the golden vendor doesn't take that long. While making a new build/theorycrafting a new build could take hours.My guess is the reason ZOS did not add this, is so players who aren't going to PvP won't be standing around taking a PvP-player their spot in Cyrodiil. As the number of players in Cyrodiil is limited. Same with PvP players creating builds at an armory station in Cyrodiil, this would take them out of the PvP scene for a while.
There's crafting stations in each base. There's the golden vendor on weekends. Every couple of days there is a daily endeavour to complete a PVE daily quest in a town.
I don't think they really care if someone is taking up a spot not PVP-ing.
And doing PvE quests in towns still means players are out and about in a PvP zone, so they are PvP players.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My guess is the reason ZOS did not add this, is so players who aren't going to PvP won't be standing around taking a PvP-player their spot in Cyrodiil. As the number of players in Cyrodiil is limited. Same with PvP players creating builds at an armory station in Cyrodiil, this would take them out of the PvP scene for a while.
It is better to keep those limited spots for actual PvPers, than to have players on various alliances standing around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot. Possibly tilting the balance to one side, depending on which alliance would at that moment have more players standing around not PvPing.
Edit: This could also be abused, by having friends or guildmates from other alliances stand around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot of the opposite alliance.
Absolutely none of this is a legitimate concern. Especially when it is PVP players saying they want to have the armory available to utilize it.
No one is going to be waiting in a queue to get into cyrodil, then then spend significant time at the armory station. They are in the queue, doing PVE things on one build, then, swapping to their PVP build once they get into Cyrodil and moving on.
No troll is waiting an hour for the queue to pop to then tinker with their build with the armory, especially since they already get a free armory in their house. And, even if they were to do that, they literally can (and do) already queue and then just stand around and troll zone chat while taking up an alliance spot.6 -
QuantumPie✭✭✭My guess is the reason ZOS did not add this, is so players who aren't going to PvP won't be standing around taking a PvP-player their spot in Cyrodiil. As the number of players in Cyrodiil is limited. Same with PvP players creating builds at an armory station in Cyrodiil, this would take them out of the PvP scene for a while.
It is better to keep those limited spots for actual PvPers, than to have players on various alliances standing around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot. Possibly tilting the balance to one side, depending on which alliance would at that moment have more players standing around not PvPing.
Edit: This could also be abused, by having friends or guildmates from other alliances stand around doing nothing while taking a PvP slot of the opposite alliance.
I'm sorry what...? You can't even make builds at an armory station. You'd still need to port out to adjust your skills / attributes. All you can do is save them.0 -
drsalvation✭✭✭✭✭Armory does NOT give you free reign to make a new build, it only saves the one you already have, so there's no exploits there:
You CAN save an empty build (well, it's already there by default) and make a new one from there.
There are no exploits to it, it's just a QoL improvement, otherwise people need to leave PvP, switch build, re-enter PvP.
Considering ESO's core combat relies heavily on builds, I'd say an armory station in each PvP zone is a much needed change. (maybe not BGs, but I'd still like to see them in the intro sections although some stages are bugged and won't let you do anything because you'll automatically be in combat even if you respawned in your safe zone)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭drsalvation wrote: »Armory does NOT give you free reign to make a new build, it only saves the one you already have, so there's no exploits there:
You CAN save an empty build (well, it's already there by default) and make a new one from there.
There are no exploits to it, it's just a QoL improvement, otherwise people need to leave PvP, switch build, re-enter PvP.
Considering ESO's core combat relies heavily on builds, I'd say an armory station in each PvP zone is a much needed change. (maybe not BGs, but I'd still like to see them in the intro sections although some stages are bugged and won't let you do anything because you'll automatically be in combat even if you respawned in your safe zone)
I think that, in the first part of the BG, while it loads in players and counts down, you should be able to pull out assistants. Like the banker if you need to grab a gear piece really quickly before the match starts, or the armory assistant to swap a loadout. And then once the match officially starts, it despawns the assistant until the match is over.
This would allow players to run their PVE builds in PVE content while queued, and swap to the PVP build once the queue pops.0 -
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✭Simple and reasonable quality of life improvement that would be easy to implement - thumbs upEsse quam videri.0 -
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