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Cheating going on here or it's normal?
beyondspace
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I know Knight Slayer set does Oblivion Damage, but 71K damage?! really? There is a cap for the maximum oblivion damage done for this set. 71K damage does not seem right. Please don't give me comments like "you are a bad player, just get good" . Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me? Oblivion damage ignores resistance. I don't care what you say,71K oblivion damage is just way too high and seems like cheating to me. Is this guy cheating to get the 71K oblivion damage?
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Treeshka✭✭✭✭✭
✭I honestly think that base game dead recap is not much informative because there is no time stamp for incoming damages and it is not a single damage so this is a bit confusing to look at.3 -
tim77✭✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »I know Knight Slayer set does Oblivion Damage, but 71K damage?! really? There is a cap for the maximum oblivion damage done for this set. 71K damage does not seem right. Please don't give me comments like "you are a bad player, just get good" . Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me? Oblivion damage ignores resistance. I don't care what you say,71K oblivion damage is just way too high and seems like cheating to me. Is this guy cheating to get the 71K oblivion damage?
71k / 12 HA= 6k each
not sure if 12 HA is still considered as burst
(also oblivion ignores shields, not resistance)
Edited by tim77 on July 5, 2022 6:14AM8 -
beyondspace✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »I know Knight Slayer set does Oblivion Damage, but 71K damage?! really? There is a cap for the maximum oblivion damage done for this set. 71K damage does not seem right. Please don't give me comments like "you are a bad player, just get good" . Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me? Oblivion damage ignores resistance. I don't care what you say,71K oblivion damage is just way too high and seems like cheating to me. Is this guy cheating to get the 71K oblivion damage?
71k / 12 HA= 6k each
not sure if 12 HA is still considered as burst
(also oblivion ignores shields, not resistance)
I'm sorry, but you are wrong here. I copy and paste this from the ESO wiki: "Oblivion Damage, formerly called Unresistable Damage, is an effect in The Elder Scrolls Online. It is a rare set effect and weapon enchantment that ignores all physical and spell resistance of the enemy". So yes, Oblivion damage does ignore resistance.7 -
beyondspace✭✭✭Hapexamendios wrote: »You might want to edit out the player's name on there.
Why Should I cover up his name? "I want to make him famous. I want to show his "Amazing DPS" to the whole ESO world, he is a good player, and he deserves the fame spotlight. He did 71K oblivion damage to one shot me like it's nothing LOL
I have played well over 10K BG matches and I have never ever seen one single player did 71K damage like that. I have seen a lot of other players also used Knight Slayer set, but how come they could not do 71K damage like he did? Only this player can? Is he an ESO God player?Edited by beyondspace on July 5, 2022 6:42AM3 -
Aardappelboom✭✭✭✭✭Well it's not a single 71k hit, it's kind of weird that it cummulates 12 times while being a heavy attack proc but it's definitely not a single hit.
It's an interesting number though, if anyone can elaborate, I'd love to know. 😄
Btw, removing his name will keep this thread going, mods tend to close threads were player names are visible.7 -
beyondspace✭✭✭Aardappelboom wrote: »Well it's not a single 71k hit, it's kind of weird that it cummulates 12 times while being a heavy attack proc but it's definitely not a single hit.
It's an interesting number though, if anyone can elaborate, I'd love to know. 😄
Btw, removing his name will keep this thread going, mods tend to close threads were player names are visible.
Fine,I have edited out his name now1 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭Either it's blatant cheating or the Death Recap function is so badly broken it should be re-worked/fixed urgently to prevent serious misinformation and confusion.
Edited by Rowjoh on July 5, 2022 7:07AM1 -
FluffyBird✭✭✭✭✭
✭Either it's blatant cheating or the Death Recap function is so badly broken it should be re-worked/fixed urgently to prevent serious misinformation and confusion.
Why? Did you miss that "12x" beside total damage too? I'm confused about what's confusing in this recap or where did you people saw "blatant cheating".10 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's confusing otherwise people here wouldn't be confused and everyone knows the Death Recap isn't accurate anyway.
Never seen a 12x/71k recap in 8 years of PVP'ing, so like I said, it's either cheating or Death Recap needs a serious overhaul.
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spacefracking✭✭✭✭It says 12x, thats the total from 12 attacks, there is no problem here. Try it on a friend or something.
Arguably the death recap should only show the stacks right before your death, as some addons do, but sometimes it just do be like that5 -
Cuddlypuff✭✭✭✭Knight Slayer is a decent counter to permablock tanks. Try breaking LOS to avoid 12 fully charged heavy attacks in a row.9
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Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭food for thought:
The OP is saying this was 'burst' damage by 1 player, not a long drawn out fight with others contributing.
Ordinarily it takes about 15 seconds to fire off 12 heavy attacks (1v1), more if you factor in lag.
Also Galerions Revenge takes 5 seconds of stacking to proc, so to get 7 procs takes 35+ seconds. In reality this would be more like 1 minute+ to achieve in a 1v1 fight factoring in buffing, de-buffing, healing, roll dodging and positioning etc.
And does death recap register info that far back anyway?0 -
Kaelthorn_Nightbloom✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me?
That's not burst damage. That's 12 fully-charged heavy attacks which took around 30 seconds.
71556 damage / 12 = 5963 damage per heavy attack
5963 damage / .08 = 74537
Let me guess, you're a necro tank with 74537 max health?
The Knight Slayer set performed exactly as designed.
Edited by Kaelthorn_Nightbloom on July 5, 2022 8:33AMPC NA16 -
beyondspace✭✭✭
I did not have 74K max health during that full duration of the fight. For him to do 12 heavy attacks，like you said，takes at least 30 secs，I would say 40 secs+，coz there were slightly pauses between the heavy attacks. My Goliath ultimate can only last 20 secs ，and during that fight，I did not have enough ultimate to turning into Goliath until the last 5 secs before my death. So your calculation still does not adds up. But I Do understand what you are saying here though.SkaraMinoc wrote: »beyondspace wrote: »Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me?
That's not burst damage. That's 12 fully-charged heavy attacks which took around 30 seconds.
71556 damage / 12 = 5963 damage per heavy attack
5963 damage / .08 = 74537
Let me guess, you're a necro tank with 74537 max health?
The Knight Slayer set performed exactly as designed.
However，Answer this：I have played more than 10K BG matches，thats a very big sample size. I have fight against a lot of players whom also uses Knight slayer sets on the regular basis，and they were good players too. How come all these other players could NOT do 12 HA 71K damage like this guy did？if this is normal，surely some other players that uses Knight slayer sets could achieve the same damage against me？But No，only this guy could do it，and thats what troubles My thought.Edited by beyondspace on July 5, 2022 10:39AM2 -
EdmondDontes✭✭✭✭✭
✭If that all happened at once, I'd be really suspicious too. I don't think they perma banned many of the cheaters as they claimed a few weeks ago. A couple of people that I highly suspect of scripting were gone for a week, now they right back doing essentially the same things they were before. I don't think they are doing a very good job at all of keeping out the cheaters in PvP.
All you can do is report the player with your screenshots and hope ZOS might maybe possibly look into it.0 -
Ch3mical_92✭✭✭This guy probably has just a good heavy-attack pvp-build. I don't see any cheating here, its just lots of heavy attacks. With all the recent set- & metachanges it's not a rare thing if new or unusual builds pop up. And it seems like this guy just had the perfect counter-setup for your pvp-tank.
Also it wasn't burst-damage, those 71k were built up over a long time. Its the same with heavy PvE-dots e.g. during trials (Vka Hm enrage for example), players will have sometimes hundreds of thousands damage listed in their death-recap but only because they got healed through this dot for several minutes2 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Knight Slayer deals up to 6K Oblivion Damage. In 12 ticks it can deal up to 72K damage. You stacked high health, never broke LoS, etc. The multiple Oblivion Damage glyph procs also did high damage.
You raged in PvP and then publicly posted a player’s name accusing them of cheating lol.21 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »
I did not have 74K max health during that full duration of the fight. For him to do 12 heavy attacks，like you said，takes at least 30 secs，I would say 40 secs+，coz there were slightly pauses between the heavy attacks. My Goliath ultimate can only last 20 secs ，and during that fight，I did not have enough ultimate to turning into Goliath until the last 5 secs before my death. So your calculation still does not adds up. But I Do understand what you are saying here though.SkaraMinoc wrote: »beyondspace wrote: »Tell me how can I stay alive if an enemy player could do 71K BURST oblivion damage to me?
That's not burst damage. That's 12 fully-charged heavy attacks which took around 30 seconds.
71556 damage / 12 = 5963 damage per heavy attack
5963 damage / .08 = 74537
Let me guess, you're a necro tank with 74537 max health?
The Knight Slayer set performed exactly as designed.
However，Answer this：I have played more than 10K BG matches，thats a very big sample size. I have fight against a lot of players whom also uses Knight slayer sets on the regular basis，and they were good players too. How come all these other players could NOT do 12 HA 71K damage like this guy did？if this is normal，surely some other players that uses Knight slayer sets could achieve the same damage against me？But No，only this guy could do it，and thats what troubles My thought.
There we go, there’s the rest of the story you left out of your original post, though I’m still not sure you’re giving the entire picture.
You are a necro tank with high health (and likely high regen) that took 71k damage total from heavy attacks over the course of a 40second fight. Notburst damage. You found an enemy that counters your play style, and are so unaccustomed to it that you just stood there and ate the damage, then accuse the player of cheating.
As others have pointed out, 71k/12 is just under 6k per hit. That’s not outrageous, especially if we assume they are running an Oakensoul build designed around heavy attacks. Which is honestly a brilliant way to deal with permablock necros.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche13 -
beyondspace✭✭✭Knight Slayer deals up to 6K Oblivion Damage. In 12 ticks it can deal up to 72K damage. You stacked high health, never broke LoS, etc. The multiple Oblivion Damage glyph procs also did high damage.
You raged in PvP and then publicly posted a player’s name accusing them of cheating lol.
Bro，you really think this guy was the ONLY guy I have played against that slotted Knight slayer sets during the 10K BG games I played？What you said still could not answer my question，read my last post and try to answer my question directly. I would not even bother to bring this to the forum if AT LEAST more than 1 player that uses Knight slayer sets could ALSO achieve 12 HA / 71K damage like this guy did，but no，he is the ONLY one that I have ever came across. Thats why its suspicious. If you Dont believe me，how about you or the most skillful PVP player in your guild slots Knight slayer and copy exactly what he did and see if you could also do 71K damage against me？I can Postively tell you right now that you couldn't.0 -
Unified_Gaming✭✭✭✭beyondspace wrote: »Knight Slayer deals up to 6K Oblivion Damage. In 12 ticks it can deal up to 72K damage. You stacked high health, never broke LoS, etc. The multiple Oblivion Damage glyph procs also did high damage.
You raged in PvP and then publicly posted a player’s name accusing them of cheating lol.
Bro，you really think this guy was the ONLY guy I have played against that slotted Knight slayer sets during the 10K BG games I played？What you said still could not answer my question，read my last post and try to answer my question directly. I would not even bother to bring this to the forum if AT LEAST more than 1 player that uses Knight slayer sets could ALSO achieve 12 HA / 71K damage like this guy did，but no，he is the ONLY one that I have ever came across. Thats why its suspicious. If you Dont believe me，how about you or the most skillful PVP player in your guild slots Knight slayer and copy exactly what he did and see if you could also do 71K damage against me？I can Postively tell you right now that you couldn't.
I'm more than happy to post a video showing how this is achievable with legit mechanics. The issue is more will run it and ruin your health stack.
What you haven't factored in is the % modifers. Oakesnoul (major beserk), camo hunter (minor beserk), fire staff 8% bonus damage on single target hits... there are many ways to amplify this. It has been pointed out that he hit you with 12 attacks for that number to get so high.
Look at this: is this all burst? Does Savage werewolf really do 160k+ damage? No - it is over a long period of time.
Honestly it is just a - your build was countered sadly
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Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sounds like the person had a high ground position and just spammed HA on you whilst busy with someone else.
I added incoming damage stats (numbers) and when I see something like that I localise the caster, turn around and run right up to the person to shut it down.
You could roll his heavies or reflect his attacks (depending on the class/setup/skills)
The savage werewolf is nasty too, the users of the set aren't that tanky generally, but going full burst on them isn't that great either because the dot from the set will have you spamming heals mid burst.0 -
RevJJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you’re on pc, use the combat metrics addon. Then go to settings, turn off “light mode for pvp” and start checking timestamps on incoming damage the next time something happens that you think is suspicious.3 -
Kurague✭✭✭I'm not gonna read all comments in the middle, but I'm quite sure this is a triple double dagger heavy tap with some attack/Charge speed + charge damage(Believe me, this can really scale) build and Brokensoul ring(For extra everything).Edited by Kurague on July 5, 2022 3:01PM0 -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a fellow Oblivion Damage enjoyer, I know that there are times where the recap on a tanky boi for my damage has reached 80k (no line of sight and just stand there in their preferred transformation taking all the hits), but like others have said it is adding up all the heavy attacks.
No cheating here. You were also hit by the oblivion enchant. The scaling for Oblivion Damage counters high health builds.Edited by Artim_X on July 5, 2022 3:38PM(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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They NEVER do. That's what gets me about all these "cheating/hacking" threads all the time. The title seems innocent enough: "Cheating going on here or it's normal?". Just asking for clarification, right? But then OP completely ignores two different people that point out that it wasn't 71k "burst" damage but over 12 different attacks and only responds to the other parts of those ppl's posts. OP only acknowledges that fact after several more people point out it was over 12 attacks, but only to argue against it.If you’re on pc, use the combat metrics addon. Then go to settings, turn off “light mode for pvp” and start checking timestamps on incoming damage the next time something happens that you think is suspicious.
Asks for clarification, but either ignores or argues against when people try to explain that it's normal. So what was the real point of the thread?beyondspace wrote: »Why Should I cover up his name? "I want to make him famous. I want to show his "Amazing DPS" to the whole ESO world, he is a good player, and he deserves the fame spotlight. He did 71K oblivion damage to one shot me like it's nothing LOL?
Anyway, the in-game Death Recap has been inaccurate since forever. People would get one shot by damage that didn't add up to their max health in the Death Recap because it always left out a part out of the Overload + Crystal Weapon + Crushing Weapon Sorc ganks. I forget exactly which.
PSA: If you want to accuse anyone of cheating, post Combat Metrics logs which have a whole lot more information than the in-game Death Recap, such as fight duration and time stamps.Edited by Magio_ on July 5, 2022 5:14PM4 -
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They NEVER do. That's what gets me about all these "cheating/hacking" threads all the time. The title seems innocent enough: "Cheating going on here or it's normal?". Just asking for clarification, right? But then OP completely ignores two different people that point out that it wasn't 71k "burst" damage but over 12 different attacks and only responds to the other parts of those ppl's posts. OP only acknowledges that fact after several more people point out it was over 12 attacks, but only to argue against it.If you’re on pc, use the combat metrics addon. Then go to settings, turn off “light mode for pvp” and start checking timestamps on incoming damage the next time something happens that you think is suspicious.
Asks for clarification, but either ignores or argues against when people try to explain that it's normal. So what was the real point of the thread?beyondspace wrote: »Why Should I cover up his name? "I want to make him famous. I want to show his "Amazing DPS" to the whole ESO world, he is a good player, and he deserves the fame spotlight. He did 71K oblivion damage to one shot me like it's nothing LOL?
Anyway, the in-game Death Recap has been inaccurate since forever. People would get one shot by damage that didn't add up to their max health in the Death Recap because it always left out a part out of the Overload + Crystal Weapon + Crushing Weapon Sorc ganks. I forget exactly which.
PSA: If you want to accuse anyone of cheating, post Combat Metrics logs which have a whole lot more information than the in-game Death Recap, such as fight duration and time stamps.
“He totally one shot me like it’s nothing with his 12 heavy attacks, 7 set proc ticks and 2 weapon enchant procs!!1!1!”Edited by Reverb on July 5, 2022 5:45PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche5 -
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✭✭✭I was thinking Galerion's stacks maybe had some effect on the KS or oblivion ticks. Then I remembered Occam's Razor and saw that you left out your additional 30k health in the first post like it wasn't relevant.Fear is the Mindkiller2 -
Paralyse✭✭✭✭✭I have heard rumors of a possible exploit or cheat that allows a player to queue a large number of skills/heavy attacks, delay sending them to the server, and then send all of them to the server at once. Not saying that's the case here, but might be worth consideration.
Edited by Paralyse on July 5, 2022 6:19PMParalyse, Sanguine's Tester - Enjoying ESO since beta. Trial clears: vSS HM, Crag HM's, vRG Oax HM, vMoL DD, vKA HM, vCR+1, vAS IR, vDSR, vSE1 -
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Also just pointing out I'm pretty sure you've been a member of the forum long enough to know that posting things with other players' names is against the rules. It's for exact reasons as this; to avoid people being accused of cheating when someone wants to ignore explanations as to why a thing isn't actually cheating.beyondspace wrote: »Hapexamendios wrote: »You might want to edit out the player's name on there.
Why Should I cover up his name? "I want to make him famous. I want to show his "Amazing DPS" to the whole ESO world, he is a good player, and he deserves the fame spotlight. He did 71K oblivion damage to one shot me like it's nothing LOL
I have played well over 10K BG matches and I have never ever seen one single player did 71K damage like that. I have seen a lot of other players also used Knight Slayer set, but how come they could not do 71K damage like he did? Only this player can? Is he an ESO God player?Character List [RP and PvE]:Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood
PC - NA - EP - CP1000+
Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!4
