Area between Wrothgar and Skyrim.

Carlos93

Hello people.

Today I come to give my opinion about the area between Wrothgar and Skyrim.



The area would be an exploration zone with world bosses, caves, renegade settlements, some Norse settlement, orcs and snow elves.

Frozen areas with frozen mountains, mammoths, giants, wildlife.
Orc camps and some Norse fortress.



Let's discuss.

tsaescishoeshiner

I'm pretty sure that area is the highland of the Wrothgarian Mountains, which I would guess is really steep and isolated.

It would be pretty small for a zone. It could probably be fleshed out into a zone with an addition like Blackreach, but they've already done that twice.

I'd rather not see snow elves, or maybe see 1 rare character, or see memory ghosts of them, than a community of living snow elves. They're meant to be gone at this time, with the few exceptions that we see in other games.

It would be awesome if this zone focused more on highland orcs than nords, mainly because we get so little orcish content in the basegame, and already have 3 full nord zones. Orsinium was a great DLC story and zone, but the basegame DC zones focus on the bretons and redguards.

kaushad

That's the Western Reach, the Forgotten Vale and maybe the site of Jehanna. I think Nordic settlements would be a waste. We can have Nordic settlements in Skyrim and the Sea of Ghosts.

Carlos93

Precisely in the forgotten valley is where the brothers Gelebor and Vyrthur came from in The Elder Scroll V in the fourth era, it would not be unusual to find a community of snow elves isolated in that valley.

mekops_ESO

Theres stuff there they dont want us to ever ever know about. At least, thats what it feels like anyways. Theres a number of map sections that are completely surrounded with game zones and seem to keep dodging bullets. One can only guess as to why, but my reckoning is that the mystery of this place and what may pertain to dwemer and the snow elves will not be seen again for quite some time.

JoeCapricorn

I would love to see micro-zones added to fill out the map when there isn't enough room for large scale zones. In some ways, micro-zones have been done already (Artaeum, Fargrave, Blackreach beneath The Reach).

Eventually, I'd like to see a road connecting Daggerfall Covenant with the Ebonheart Pact. Another Skyrim chapter would need to happen for this though, a central Skyrim story. It may be a while yet before we see that.

But currently it is possible to ride entirely on roads from Windhelm to Elden Root. That is 12 zones connected via roads in all (although it seems Murkmire is not connected to Blackwood, unfortunately, though a secret tunnel type pathway would be neat and welcomed)

I also think they should hire the makers of the better map addon and then they will have more room to create zones that way as well. A Blacklight / Western Morrowind zone would be possible then. I would also like to see Sheogorad become available, maybe even as a unique hybrid dungeon/zone expansion. It's a tiny area, I don't think a Q4 expansion would fit, but if there was a dungeon DLC that had one of the dungeons in the middle of one of those northern islands, a few of the areas could be fleshed out with a few quests added. The quests and location would be a part of Vvardenfell and would be available to any player (since Vvardenfell is now free to all owners of base ESO), but the dungeon itself would be only for those with the DLC.

James-Wayne

I think you will find the reason its not filled is probably because the in game location is being used to host other game instances like Maelstrom Arena, Icereach Dungeon, Castle Thorn and other smaller Delves from the zones.

You can typically see in some older content they do this kind of world building because when your there the map cursor marker moves on the map with you but now days they fix the map marker to the location you entered. You can however use a map coordinators add-on to find out the XY position to calculate where on the world map you are.

I could be wrong but I haven't come across any location yet that doesn't follow this theory. Everything is usually for a reason

Vaoh

I don’t want them touching any of those areas until they fix the map.

Carlos93

They could make the chapter of the year about Whiterun and an exploration zone instead of what they did in Solitude and the Markarth DLC by creating another city for another DLC in the same year.

When what they could have done is to make the second DLC of the year on an area that had no city to focus on the map, to make it more immersive.

The result is that an area as important as Markarth is almost empty with only two caves and two world bosses.

TaSheen

I'm sure they have a complete roadmap for the remaining areas. It's not likely they listen to anything from people on the forums.

They're always hiring; you could apply.

Supreme_Atromancer

kaushad wrote: »

That's the Western Reach, the Forgotten Vale and maybe the site of Jehanna. I think Nordic settlements would be a waste. We can have Nordic settlements in Skyrim and the Sea of Ghosts.

As @kaushad points out, that area has a canon story, history and character already. The Western Reach is well-established in the lore, but as of yet, hasn't been explored in ESO.

The existence of Jehanna is shown by the existence of the "Jehanna Road", as described in the Emperor's Guide. Currently, a major road that goes to an empty dock that services nothing, makes no sense.

The region's history is complex, involving First Empire Nordic foundations, Imperial governance, and Direnni rule. It is contiguous with Skyrim's reach and historically part of that territory. It is Breton, politically (the Nords were driven back a long time ago), though lore tells that the Nords still believe that cities like Jehanna belong to them by right. And beyond that, it probably is the perfect location for the the Forgotten Vale.

All of these elements could tell part of the story of High Rock (much needed because so much of this province was given over to the orcs). We know that there is some conflict between Bretons and Imperials during the events of base-game ESO. We know from lore that the Western Reach was ruled by an Imperial Governor. We know that High King Emeric gave away a third of High Rock to the Orcs, which would utterly isolate what was already a remote part of the Province.

We know that the Clan Direnni played a major part in the genesis of the Breton race, but there are very few traces in base-game High Rock- the story of the province wont be completed until we get to explore them. We also know that the Western Reach was said to have been occupied by clan Direnni longer than any other region (bar Balfiera), and that they fortified the region against Nordic ambitions. So its probably the *best* part of High Rock for exploring the Direnni and address this hole in ESO's lore, and an absolute crime to write it off.

We know that Jehanna exists during this period. We know that it exists on the Sea of Ghosts, right on the border of Skyrim, and therefore greatly removed from the pretentious, hoighty-toighty cities on the Iliac Bay. We know that the villagers of Cloud Springs raise sheep somewhere in the colder highlands, but can also speculate about other places from the lore- Raven Springs, Azra's Crossing and the enigmatic Dunlain.

We know that ZOS doesn't use a set scale- that zones that appear small are rendered live as greatly expanded. High Isle is much smaller on the map than the area available here, yet the playable space is said by the devs themselves to be "comparable to other chapter zones". It could be used for a full chapter, or for a q4 DLC depending on whatever ZOS wanted to do.

And we know that ZOS recognises that Tamriel itself is finite, and that they've needed to address this problem by reaching for islands proximal to the mainland. And while that's a fine solution, really, people are here for *Tamriel*. Which means that space on the map is at a premium, and discarding it as "just nebulous mountain space" is an alarming waste.

The Western Reach is an important part of the world, with significant lore, and many interesting stories to tell, be it internecine Breton strife, classic Imperial interference, Nordic First Empire ambitions, ancient Direnni secrets (or persistent Sinderill https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sinderill machinations), and lost Reachman glory.

ZOS said that they want to eventually fill out ALL of Tamriel, and leaving conspicuous blobs where The Western Reach and Jehanna; Corinthe and the Tenmar Highlands; Blacklight and the Velothi Hinterlands should be, and all of which correspond to places with established lore and therefore should be included. The players have noticed. ZOS has noticed that we've noticed. We want *all* Tamriel, as promised!

Artim_X

IMO this, the Tenmar forest (Central Elsweyr), and the remainder of Argonia should be turned into an Adventure Zone akin to Craglorn. Adventure for every alliance!

Say it with me now trials & arenas & world bosses & world events & group delves, oh my!

Holycannoli

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that area is the highland of the Wrothgarian Mountains, which I would guess is really steep and isolated.

It would be pretty small for a zone. It could probably be fleshed out into a zone with an addition like Blackreach, but they've already done that twice.

I'd rather not see snow elves, or maybe see 1 rare character, or see memory ghosts of them, than a community of living snow elves. They're meant to be gone at this time, with the few exceptions that we see in other games.

It would be awesome if this zone focused more on highland orcs than nords, mainly because we get so little orcish content in the basegame, and already have 3 full nord zones. Orsinium was a great DLC story and zone, but the basegame DC zones focus on the bretons and redguards.

Could be quite interesting to make such a mountainous zone into a massive mostly underground zone, not quite on a Moria scale but still massive.

I don't know if it would fit into the lore.

EozZoe1989

snow elves be amazing and the old races too

NotaDaedraWorshipper

A lot of the "micro areas" aren't that micro if the damn map was accurate to lore.

Vylaera

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Supreme_Atromancer

Holycannoli wrote: »

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that area is the highland of the Wrothgarian Mountains, which I would guess is really steep and isolated.

It would be pretty small for a zone. It could probably be fleshed out into a zone with an addition like Blackreach, but they've already done that twice.

I'd rather not see snow elves, or maybe see 1 rare character, or see memory ghosts of them, than a community of living snow elves. They're meant to be gone at this time, with the few exceptions that we see in other games.

It would be awesome if this zone focused more on highland orcs than nords, mainly because we get so little orcish content in the basegame, and already have 3 full nord zones. Orsinium was a great DLC story and zone, but the basegame DC zones focus on the bretons and redguards.

Could be quite interesting to make such a mountainous zone into a massive mostly underground zone, not quite on a Moria scale but still massive.

I don't know if it would fit into the lore.

Yeah, great point. If we ever get to revisit the Orcs in a chapter, I think that underground would be a great opportunity. The idea goes back to their conceptual roots, and if we're running out of space in Tamriel, there's no reason not to go back underground. Cavern systems under the Wrothgarian Mountains that connect to Arkthzand Caverns could be pretty epic, and form part of a larger inter-connected underworld mirroring the explorable world above.

Faulgor

People have suggested this area around Jehanna before as a Breton-focused chapter. Alas with High Isle, that ship seems to have sailed (huehue) for the foreseeable future.

It's a shame, really. As said by others, it's probably the most "Elven" area, culturally, of High Rock. Ancient Aldmeri fortresses on snow-peaked mountains, looking down on secluded valleys where mysteries such as the Falmer have been hidden from the world. All surrounding the Breton city of Jehanna, which in my mind has a very magical and christmas-y feel to it.

Ah well.

Supreme_Atromancer

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

Nord_Raseri

You already see what's left of the snow elves in western skyrim and markarth.

kaushad

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

This is the opposite of the northwestern Morrowind. To push Wrothgar and Skyrim together would be to remove a region from the map.

ElvenOverlord

Carlos93 wrote: »

Precisely in the forgotten valley is where the brothers Gelebor and Vyrthur came from in The Elder Scroll V in the fourth era, it would not be unusual to find a community of snow elves isolated in that valley.

Yep we all know there was a decent sized snow elf community before Vyrthur turned vamp and went apeshit

Supreme_Atromancer

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kaushad wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

This is the opposite of the northwestern Morrowind. To push Wrothgar and Skyrim together would be to remove a region from the map.

You're right, in this specific instance. What I meant is that the push for fixing the map is driven by people wanting regions ZOS seem to have completely forgot to be recognised and possible, and that's why I'm very much on board with all the "Fix-The-Map" people, and have been since 2014. I can't really get behind a fix that would obliterate a part of High Rock I've been wanting to see since I started playing Elder Scrolls games in 2012, the reason I jumped into ESO in the first place, and really believed ESO would give me. And why wouldn't I? ZOS said they cared about the lore and that they wanted to do it justice, and I believed them. I still hope its true.

I don't think the fix shown above needs to do this; if its used as an argument for giving up on legit canon parts of the world, it would be going against the aims of people who are rallying for a better map. But I don't think that's the point, and there really should still be space for Jehanna, and the Western Reach.

Shardan4968

They could make a DLC in Winterhold and do some meaningful lore for the Augur of Dunlain, so they would also use this part of the map and put Dunlain Falls there (the location only present in TES Arena in that general location), which would be perfect for a plot with an interesting lore of this enigmatic character. Though that's just one of the possibilities for this full of potential space.

That's why I also agree they should fix the map as soon as possible, before they end up squeezing puzzles to fill in the tiny zones like this.

Supreme_Atromancer

If the Wrothgar and W. Skyrim maps were arranged such that they match the Anthology map, there is still plenty of room for Jehanna:





Its more accurate to the most widely-accepted canon map (though it doesn't leave any space for a "Western Reach", as such).

Vylaera

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

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kaushad wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

This is the opposite of the northwestern Morrowind. To push Wrothgar and Skyrim together would be to remove a region from the map.

You're right, in this specific instance. What I meant is that the push for fixing the map is driven by people wanting regions ZOS seem to have completely forgot to be recognised and possible, and that's why I'm very much on board with all the "Fix-The-Map" people, and have been since 2014. I can't really get behind a fix that would obliterate a part of High Rock I've been wanting to see since I started playing Elder Scrolls games in 2012, the reason I jumped into ESO in the first place, and really believed ESO would give me. And why wouldn't I? ZOS said they cared about the lore and that they wanted to do it justice, and I believed them. I still hope its true.

I don't think the fix shown above needs to do this; if its used as an argument for giving up on legit canon parts of the world, it would be going against the aims of people who are rallying for a better map. But I don't think that's the point, and there really should still be space for Jehanna, and the Western Reach.

I kept the ESO scale Bjoulsae and shaved off bits of Wrothgar and squished bangkorai on my map to still keep some room for a Jehanna DLC in the future for this reason. Though realistically the one I made above in this thread is a bit more accurate to what it should actually look like.

TinyDragon

I'd be very disappointed to see this region ignored, as mentioned above quite a bit, Jehanna belongs there. I'd also be disappointed to see snow elves there- falmer exist in this part of the timeline, and I think it'd be very cliche to have apocket of them survive, when they could instead cover the *actual* Legacy of the Bretons I thought I'd be getting this patch; the history of their enslavement at the hands of the Direnni, and further exploration of them as Manmer. Instead, we got he History of the Wyrd and Druids, but I digress.

I'd love to see a series of 'microzones' as @JoeCapricorn called them (I think this name suits it just right) released as a cluster. Instead of the year long stories we have, switch it up a little, and release a microzone in each faction.

You have Jehanna, the space between N. and S. Elsweyr (which we all wanted, and ZoS seemed surprised we cared) and the area along the coast of the Rift which would contain Blacklight. I'm not too fussed how the stories relate, if at all. I think ZoS is correct in staying away from yet another major, world-ending event this year, and I think releasing these three areas could be done with a simpler storyline involving minimal daedra incursions.

Treeshka

There are lots of tiny gaps in the map and there will be more with more chapter releases. Maybe these tiny zones will get their content in a different way. Like instead of a year long story they will do some small stories.

Vylaera

Vylaera wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

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kaushad wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

This is the opposite of the northwestern Morrowind. To push Wrothgar and Skyrim together would be to remove a region from the map.

You're right, in this specific instance. What I meant is that the push for fixing the map is driven by people wanting regions ZOS seem to have completely forgot to be recognised and possible, and that's why I'm very much on board with all the "Fix-The-Map" people, and have been since 2014. I can't really get behind a fix that would obliterate a part of High Rock I've been wanting to see since I started playing Elder Scrolls games in 2012, the reason I jumped into ESO in the first place, and really believed ESO would give me. And why wouldn't I? ZOS said they cared about the lore and that they wanted to do it justice, and I believed them. I still hope its true.

I don't think the fix shown above needs to do this; if its used as an argument for giving up on legit canon parts of the world, it would be going against the aims of people who are rallying for a better map. But I don't think that's the point, and there really should still be space for Jehanna, and the Western Reach.

I kept the ESO scale Bjoulsae and shaved off bits of Wrothgar and squished bangkorai on my map to still keep some room for a Jehanna DLC in the future for this reason. Though realistically the one I made above in this thread is a bit more accurate to what it should actually look like.

My last comment did not age well because I decided to totally remake my map from the ground up based totally on lore accurate positions of Anthology now that we have the code and ability to do whatever we want with the map. This sliver of land unfortunately does not exist. There's only a little bit of land open exactly where Jehanna should be, but nothing else.

I will be leaving it open and trying to cut out as much as I can so that there's still a gap, but it won't be very big.

drsalvation

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that area is the highland of the Wrothgarian Mountains, which I would guess is really steep and isolated.

It would be pretty small for a zone. It could probably be fleshed out into a zone with an addition like Blackreach, but they've already done that twice.

I'd rather not see snow elves, or maybe see 1 rare character, or see memory ghosts of them, than a community of living snow elves. They're meant to be gone at this time, with the few exceptions that we see in other games.

It would be awesome if this zone focused more on highland orcs than nords, mainly because we get so little orcish content in the basegame, and already have 3 full nord zones. Orsinium was a great DLC story and zone, but the basegame DC zones focus on the bretons and redguards.

to be fair, high isles zone looks very small in the world map, but the whole place is bigger than it originally looks once you zoom in. The world map in this game isn't necessarily accurate, you can tell from Cyrodiil's dimensions.

Supreme_Atromancer

Vylaera wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

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kaushad wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Vylaera wrote: »

I think it has to do with the fact that if you lore scale the bjoulsae river, high rock gets shifted back to where it actually belongs on the map, and wrothgar then takes up that area on the map like so

Great work as usual, @Vylaera . The superimpositions are very informative.

With your solution, ESO's Skyrim has a bight of land that contradicts the Anthology's High Rock bight. The Skyrim bight represents not just map, but playable worldspace in both ESO and TES5.

I agree very strongly that the map is borked by the exaggerated Bjulsae, and that a closer fit is realised by drawing the two zones closer together, but not to a degree that obliterates an important part of the world, and a part a lot of us still wish to see. This area (along with the Velothi Highlands, etc, as you know really well) is one of the prime examples for the motivation driving the community to push for ZOS' to recognise the need for a better map: "will we get to see places we really want to see, or, as the map suggests, does ZOS not recognise their existence, even though they're written into the game?"

We've been talking about this stuff for years now. Since 2014. 8 years of posts pleading with ZOS to address, commit or discuss their point of view. I really wish that ZOS would recognise our concerns and actually engage the issue.

This is the opposite of the northwestern Morrowind. To push Wrothgar and Skyrim together would be to remove a region from the map.

You're right, in this specific instance. What I meant is that the push for fixing the map is driven by people wanting regions ZOS seem to have completely forgot to be recognised and possible, and that's why I'm very much on board with all the "Fix-The-Map" people, and have been since 2014. I can't really get behind a fix that would obliterate a part of High Rock I've been wanting to see since I started playing Elder Scrolls games in 2012, the reason I jumped into ESO in the first place, and really believed ESO would give me. And why wouldn't I? ZOS said they cared about the lore and that they wanted to do it justice, and I believed them. I still hope its true.

I don't think the fix shown above needs to do this; if its used as an argument for giving up on legit canon parts of the world, it would be going against the aims of people who are rallying for a better map. But I don't think that's the point, and there really should still be space for Jehanna, and the Western Reach.

I kept the ESO scale Bjoulsae and shaved off bits of Wrothgar and squished bangkorai on my map to still keep some room for a Jehanna DLC in the future for this reason. Though realistically the one I made above in this thread is a bit more accurate to what it should actually look like.

My last comment did not age well because I decided to totally remake my map from the ground up based totally on lore accurate positions of Anthology now that we have the code and ability to do whatever we want with the map. This sliver of land unfortunately does not exist. There's only a little bit of land open exactly where Jehanna should be, but nothing else.

I will be leaving it open and trying to cut out as much as I can so that there's still a gap, but it won't be very big.

Honestly, even seeing Jehanna alone would be good. I came to the same conclusion myself, with my map above.

That High Rock bit of land that bights into Skyrim (on the anthology map) is represented as the hill above Castle Thorn- Mor Kazgur- Dragonhome in ESO's map. If you push the two ESO zones together to better reflect the anthology map, this still leaves a space between Mor Kazgur and the eastern slope of Sorrow that could easily fit a city.

Interestingly, placing the maps like that also suggests a natural pass between Deep Folk Crossing in Skyrim and the Rkindaleft valley in Wrothgar.

Lorewise, it'd just be nice to have some sort of in-game exploration about how The Western Reach became Eastern Wrothgar, what happened to Imperial Governance, or what happened to the Direnni Strongholds. It seems like a waste of good story-telling opportunity and lore-ignorant not to ever go into that. Its the Year of the Breton and as @TinyDragon points out, its astonishing that the actual Legacy of the Bretons, - by lore, their Nedic and Direnni heritage- actually aren't being touched on at all.