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MAJOR TALES OF TRIBUTE BUG: Losing matches loses you 1,000 tribute score

Corrhen_Crangrow
PC/EU

I have been playing Tales of Tribute fairly regularly since High Isle's release. I reached end of the progression and entered the leaderboard, and everything was fine. I was winning, losing, climbing and falling as normal.

As of late yesterday I was at rank 11 on the leaderboard and was thinking of logging off.

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I decided to play 1 more game, turns out it was a loss, oh well, that's not too bad, -100ish MMR, down a few spots on the leaderboard, whatever, I'll win more tomorrow. I go and look to see what position I am in and I see this:

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I am pretty shocked, that's exactly 1,000 tribute score lost. With such a perfect round number that has to be a bug right? I report it using the ingame bug reporter (no response as of making this post). Some people in discord say it might just be because I lost to a new player or someone super low ranked, because I was near the top of the leaderboard. I don't know if it's possible to lose that much ELO in one loss in an ELO system where the baseline is 1,000, but whatever.

I log back in today, still at 519 tribute score, and think well maybe it was a one off freak loss, and I wonder how much ELO I'll get back by winning. I queue up and win a game (likely against someone with significantly higher ELO) and gain +194 tribute score.

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Ok climbing back up might not be so bad, maybe 10 wins or so. I play another one, win again, this time only +129 tribute score, whatever.

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I queue again, this time it's a close game against someone who obviously has spent a lot of time playing. I lose, and I see this:

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What the ***.

Is my account bugged? Is the ELO system bugged? I don't know what's going on. I recently hit adept rank (rank 5) in the tribute guild, maybe it has something to do with that? All I know is that prior to yesterday, my wins and losses both earned me either plus or minus 100ish tribute score, with variance accounted for presumably by difference in ranking, as a basic ELO system dictates. As of now though, if I lose a game, I seem to lose 1,000 tribute score.

ZOS pls fix.
Edited by Corrhen_Crangrow on June 14, 2022 1:01PM
  • redspecter23
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    I think this is an example of how transparency of the ELO system would be of huge benefit. As you mention yourself, it's possible you played someone that is in some way ranked lower than you, either by leaderboard, Tribute level, time played, win/loss ratio or whatever. We don't know how the matchmaking works or how many points we are supposed to gain or lose and how it's calculated. This could be a bug or working exactly as intended but there is no way we could know that.

    ZOS, please let us know mechanically how this is supposed to work. I know you like your information to be "player testable" but it would help us to know if things like this are bugs or working properly.
  • crysis992
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    At least you are able to gain/lose score points

    My Account/Character is unable to gain any score since Elsweyr/following content:
    • Sunspire
    • Kyne's Aegis
    • Rockgrove
    • Vateshran Hollows
    • Blackrose Prison
    • Dreadsail Reef
    • Battlegrounds
    • The new Tales of Tributes

    Played ranked in the timeframe over several days
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    No Score:
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  • kmfdm
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    I have been playing Tales of Tribute fairly regularly since High Isle's release...

    Happened to me as well, but Ive lost even more than 1K points, then it took me dozens of wins to get it back. Not sure if this is a bug, or working as intended, but there surely should be a rating increase/decrease cap.
  • uberswe
    uberswe
    Soul Shriven
    This happened to me as well. I was rubedite rank at 964 points and lost a match which left me with 1 point. The next day I played another ranked match and won and now I'm at 1001 points. I feel that 1000 points up or down is way too much considering the #1 player is right around 3000 currently.
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