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Fetch a Fair Fetching Price?

FlopsyPrince
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How does something fetch a fair fetching price?

Did anyone proofread the script or the one reading it pay any attention?
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  • katanagirl1
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    I think it’s funny because that work is used like a curse word for dark elves.
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  • Drammanoth
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    I think it’s funny because that word is used like a curse word for dark elves.

    It is - which is why I believe the OP did use the swearword without breaking the ToS ^^

    He's far from being a s'wit I'm telling you, muthsera.
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  • Kisakee
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    Context please?
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  • correctamundo
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Context please?

    It's a MIrri voiceline. And it clearly is proofread.
  • Kisakee
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Context please?

    It's a MIrri voiceline. And it clearly is proofread.

    Well, then i'm never going to hear it as my client isn't english.
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  • Jaimeh
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    It works if you think fetch used normally like a verb and fetching like an adjective that here Miri uses it for a swear-word, like saying: 'get a fair hecking price'.
  • Kisakee
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    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.
    Edited by Kisakee on April 30, 2022 10:27AM
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  • EF321
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    I think it’s funny because that work is used like a curse word for dark elves.

    It is all fun and games and then they call you the n'word :'(
  • Arunei
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    It's the Dunmeri word for the F-word, since most modern-day expletives don't exist in the ES universe. Orcs use 'tusk' as a stand-in for that word.

    Mirri drops the F-bomb with surprising frequency.
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.
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  • Kisakee
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    The same word can have different meanings and that's actually the case (as far as i understand it). Sure, they could have used other words but is this really such a big deal?
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    The same word can have different meanings and that's actually the case (as far as i understand it). Sure, they could have used other words but is this really such a big deal?

    It is still bad English and would have been rejected by all the editors I have written for over the years (for publication when that still happened).

    It is just annoying. Posting a note about it here won't change anything, but is relatively harmless and this thread will soon fade.

    If you disagree, please note an example of good English where a word is repeated in the same sentence? Find an example in a writing Style book as well.
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  • Belegnole
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    While it dies sound poorly written I've had a laugh about it. Seems it's alright for ZOS to curse in the game while the rest of us...
  • Kiralyn2000
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    It is still bad English and would have been rejected by all the editors I have written for over the years (for publication when that still happened).

    Then your editors were too harsh, if they'd ignore that it's a piece of casual dialogue, not a piece of formal literature.

    (i.e, when someone's writing a novel, and a character in it speaks in what would be an "incorrect" manner? It's correct, because that's the way that they'd really speak. i.e, the dockworker uses language differently than Joe Regular Man who uses language differently than Proper Received English Barrister.)


    Also, English (and particularly American) is full of words with multiple confusing definitions. People use the "same" word, meaning different things, in the same sentence all the time. Which, yes, is confusing to people from other languages/cultures/viewpoints. Just like it would be to a non-Dunmer, listening to a Dunmer speaking casually.



    "Well that would fetch a fair <expletive> price!"
    Nothing seems wrong about that sentence structure.

    (And it's also obviously the writer having fun with the fact they used "fetcher/fetching" as a fake Dunmer expletive. It's a bit of a joke, not an offense to written language. /shrug)
  • LalMirchi
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    Is "Fracking" allowed?
  • carolingnight
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.
    For dialogue in creative or informal literature, I disagree. It's part of Mirri's character.
  • Mythgard1967
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    It is humorous because that his her "voice". Are you telling me that all editors require perfect English for the words spoken by a character in a work of fiction??? Which is what this is? This would be a super boring game if everyone spoke in perfect English and had no voice of their own.

    If this was in a book the whole thing would be in quotes and would be considered her speaking voice.

    I have read many many stories where the speaking voice of the characters was not perfect English. Are you saying that you have never read anything like that and that everyone of those novels, short stories, novellas, etc. were from shoddy publishing houses who don't know what they are doing?
  • Sylvermynx
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    It is humorous because that his her "voice". Are you telling me that all editors require perfect English for the words spoken by a character in a work of fiction??? Which is what this is? This would be a super boring game if everyone spoke in perfect English and had no voice of their own.

    If this was in a book the whole thing would be in quotes and would be considered her speaking voice.

    I have read many many stories where the speaking voice of the characters was not perfect English. Are you saying that you have never read anything like that and that everyone of those novels, short stories, novellas, etc. were from shoddy publishing houses who don't know what they are doing?

    This. When I write the "extras" (think workers, peasants, mercs, whatever) always have some "not protagonist's" dialect - with in general the protagonist and her culture "speaking" good English (not always common American English either, sometimes it will be "high" English - more like a couple of my classy British friends; generally depends on where the protagonist grows up as to social stratum, that is middle class or better, or commoner, or even lower).
  • Snamyap
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    You used "in" twice in that sentence. :p
  • correctamundo
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    It's a pun and an alliteration all rolled into one. Thus it's not bad, but instead, brilliant literature.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Snamyap wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    You used "in" twice in that sentence. :p

    That's the last time that we are going to put up with that!
  • Tenthirty2
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    Fetch me, she fetching says "fetch", "fetching" and "fetcher" way too fetching much.

    Fetching drives me so nuts sometimes I have to mute her fetchin arse.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    The same word can have different meanings and that's actually the case (as far as i understand it). Sure, they could have used other words but is this really such a big deal?

    It is still bad English and would have been rejected by all the editors I have written for over the years (for publication when that still happened).

    It is just annoying. Posting a note about it here won't change anything, but is relatively harmless and this thread will soon fade.

    If you disagree, please note an example of good English where a word is repeated in the same sentence? Find an example in a writing Style book as well.

    "My horse barreled through the barrel race, rounding the last barrel in time for second place."

    Despite using barrel in two or three different ways, it's pretty clear that the word is being used correctly, and you can tell what's happening.

    "Let me mount my mount."

    Again, we've got a verb/noun combo that an Editor might sneer at, but is also understandable.

    Personally, I can see it would be confusing for anyone who doesn't realize that "fetch" is Dunmer slang. But since I do, I think her overuse of "fetch" is comedic.

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  • Ilsabet
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    The repetition is the point. It's a play on words, one of which happens to be Dunmeri slang.
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  • Jaraal
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    It should be: "If you're going to kill bugs, at least fetch fetching fetcher flies!"
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    Drammanoth wrote: »
    I think it’s funny because that word is used like a curse word for dark elves.

    It is -

    Not in the way she uses it. Of some reason ZOS decided Mirri shall use weird forms of "fetcher" like it was the f-word and she's a pottymouth. It honestly sounds bad and forced. Fetcher hasn't been used in this way before and there exist better words if she was going to be some kind of pottymouth.
    She's like a toddler who has just discovered a new bad word the way she uses it. Constantly.
    Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on April 30, 2022 7:17PM
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  • FlopsyPrince
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    OK, I am not an English major. Though "in" is a specific type of word that can be repeated, like "the". (You also shouldn't put punctuation outside the quote mark, but I do.)

    I would just like a version of "That would get a great fetching price" better.

    As I noted, not the worst "crime", just noting something in a somewhat humorous vein, but then I need to remind myself humor here is very rough.
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  • kargen27
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    "Let me mount my mount."

    and when you are done riding you can hitch it to the hitching post.
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    Kisakee wrote: »
    Kisakee wrote: »
    Maybe i don't get it as english isn't my native language but for me it just sounds like "catching a fair and appealing price" on something.

    You shouldn't repeat the same word twice in a sentence in English.

    The same word can have different meanings and that's actually the case (as far as i understand it). Sure, they could have used other words but is this really such a big deal?

    It is still bad English and would have been rejected by all the editors I have written for over the years (for publication when that still happened).

    It is just annoying. Posting a note about it here won't change anything, but is relatively harmless and this thread will soon fade.

    If you disagree, please note an example of good English where a word is repeated in the same sentence? Find an example in a writing Style book as well.

    I think she deliberately says it that way to be funny/clever.
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  • Marto
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    It's just a play on words. A joke.

    [snip]
    [edited for minor baiting]
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