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Free Finedrin

StabbityDoom
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I am a lawyer. Finedrin is not my client, however, I cannot stand to see such injustice.

Finedrin cannot have "st[olen] rotten tomatoes and other refuse from stablemaster Semiral's midden-heap" because it's not stealing what has been abandoned.

Secondly, I doubt the veracity of the accusations, since Zalapu refers to Faruin as a male, when she is female. Was the witness not wearing glasses, hmm? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Faruin

Finally, Atrius the merchant is not even in town, he left with his cart just fine. I hear he was attacked by werewolves. Isnt it possible the werewolves damaged the cart, not Finedrin? I demand his release on all charges for these spurious accusations.

We won't even get into holding him in the stocks for over 8 years with no trial. It's a travesty.

FREE FINEDRIN

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  • Surak73
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    Nope. He has not shown proper repentance yet.
  • ectoplasmicninja
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    Secondly, I doubt the veracity of the accusations, since Zalapu refers to Faruin as a male, when she is female. Was the witness not wearing glasses, hmm? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Faruin

    I suspect Finedrin's Faruin is a different Faruin - Zalapu says "the Altmer commander Faruin" and Finedrin's brother Lonor refers to him as an Altmer as well, but that one is a Bosmer and a Vinedusk Ranger. I wonder why would a Bosmer and an Altmer share the same name...this could also be a good instance to bring up cross-race identification bias!

    That said, I agree with your call to free Finedrin. He explicitly hasn't shown proper repentance, but eight years in the stocks seems a disproportionate sentence.
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  • StabbityDoom
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    Secondly, I doubt the veracity of the accusations, since Zalapu refers to Faruin as a male, when she is female. Was the witness not wearing glasses, hmm? https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Faruin

    I suspect Finedrin's Faruin is a different Faruin - Zalapu says "the Altmer commander Faruin" and Finedrin's brother Lonor refers to him as an Altmer as well, but that one is a Bosmer and a Vinedusk Ranger. I wonder why would a Bosmer and an Altmer share the same name...this could also be a good instance to bring up cross-race identification bias!

    That said, I agree with your call to free Finedrin. He explicitly hasn't shown proper repentance, but eight years in the stocks seems a disproportionate sentence.

    Interesting point. You're probably right about Faruin.

    Holding someone in prison until you're satisfied with their reaction/feelings is unjust! :)
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    When I can give Faneh some coins in Belkarth, I’ll move over to the criminal tomato chucker! Poor girl’s been begging for years and I always wanted to give her some monies.
  • ectoplasmicninja
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    Can you imagine a real-world judge saying "I sentence you to prison until I think you're reformed"? That would be a complete disaster. The legal system in Tamriel is a travesty!
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  • bmnoble
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    When he has apologized they will let him out.
  • whitecrow
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    Semiral was using those tomatoes as compost so yes it is stealing.
  • StabbityDoom
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    Semiral was using those tomatoes as compost so yes it is stealing.

    There is no evidence he was using it for compost! he is a stableman, I see no crops!
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  • dmnqwk
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    I am a lawyer. Finedrin is not my client, however, I cannot stand to see such injustice.

    Finedrin cannot have "st[olen] rotten tomatoes and other refuse from stablemaster Semiral's midden-heap" because it's not stealing what has been abandoned.

    Under whose law is this not theft? Are you making an assumption about the legal code used in-game?

    I agree it's silly to do suggest a crime has not been committed without a copy of the laws of the land!
  • AaronGuilder
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    Put Stuga in the stocks instead.. then she won't follow me around :D
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  • StabbityDoom
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    dmnqwk wrote: »
    I am a lawyer. Finedrin is not my client, however, I cannot stand to see such injustice.

    Finedrin cannot have "st[olen] rotten tomatoes and other refuse from stablemaster Semiral's midden-heap" because it's not stealing what has been abandoned.

    Under whose law is this not theft? Are you making an assumption about the legal code used in-game?

    I agree it's silly to do suggest a crime has not been committed without a copy of the laws of the land!

    He's had no representation to even review the law, so he shouldn't be in the stocks until he knows his rights
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  • SammyKhajit
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    Sammy tried to talk to Finedrin, to see if he wants to be freed.

    That one said this one is blocking his view.

    Crazy Bosmer.
    Edited by SammyKhajit on April 12, 2022 5:51PM
  • SantieClaws
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    They should let him out of the stocks then offer him as a houseguest.

    Then he finally gets to see the world a bit and/or end up in stocks in all of our houses...

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  • whitecrow
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    He stole my sweetroll.
  • kojou
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    I feel like there should be a quest to free him. I would like to represent him in court, or at least pay some bribes to get him released. 8 years in the stocks is too long for throwing rotten vegetables at anyone.
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  • MJ202
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    Semiral was using those tomatoes as compost so yes it is stealing.

    Interesting point. We need to hear what Semiral has to say.
  • MJ202
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    He stole my sweetroll.

    "I stole the sweet roll, but I did not shoot him in the knee!"
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  • MJ202
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    Put Stuga in the stocks instead.. then she won't follow me around :D

    Does Tamriel have a law against stalking?
  • SeaGtGruff
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    Put Stuga in the stocks instead.. then she won't follow me around :D

    Have you played through the quest with all of the Stibbonses? How can you be sure there aren't a myriad of Stugas waiting to follow you around?
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  • alberichtano
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    Can you imagine a real-world judge saying "I sentence you to prison until I think you're reformed"? That would be a complete disaster. The legal system in Tamriel is a travesty!

    Well, to be fair, it does makes sense. I mean, imagine a human and an altmer committing the same crime and getting the same sentence for time in jail. For a human it would be a considerable part of his life lost, while the altmer would just yawn and move on as if it had been a bad afternoon. :wink:
  • Nestor
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    I spoke with Finedrin a couple of times. He actually seems to be comfortable with his situation. Is more concerned with his view from the platform.

    Perhaps he has a long list of crimes somewhere that is a bit harsher to deal with. Lessor of two punishments?
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