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Idea limit crown scammers

Dolphinsgal
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Zos had to realize that by offering gifting of crown store items would lead to people selling those items for in game gold. There has been a huge uptick in people "selling crown items for gold" and not sending the item after they were sent payment.
The best way to combat this would be to only allow us to gift items with a cod, even if the item is a gift 1 gold cod isn't going to break anyone's bank. Unlike mail cod have no fees for the sender but cod fee for recipient.
  • phairdon
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    A official crown to gold exchange in the crown store or UI would be ideal.
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  • perfiction
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    I agree, cash on delivery system for crown gifts would be great (and it would serve as an additional gold sink).
    Edited by perfiction on March 31, 2022 9:33PM
  • redspecter23
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    I would love some sort of safe system for exchanging crowns for gold. Unfortunately, ZOS has decided to distance themselves from it as much as possible to make things easy for themselves. There are likely some legal issues that other games seem to have solved, but ZOS isn't willing to look at. Due to this desire to keep distance, they won't likely devote any resources into making a safe system for players.

    They could implement a system in any number of ways, but they just haven't decided it's worth the resources, whether it's dev time or having lawyers look at the money side of it. They have made the decision that having players get scammed and having their CS team deal with the repercussions of that is the better course. When you look at it that way, if they look at this topic again, they may decide the easiest, cheapest solution is to just state that crowns for gold is no longer endorsed and is a TOS violation. That way they don't have to spend any money and can free up their CS reps.
  • Dolphinsgal
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    They already have said they won't refund gold if you're scammed buying crown store items, but they do need to add something to help combat the scammers that are out in force.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    I would love some sort of safe system for exchanging crowns for gold. Unfortunately, ZOS has decided to distance themselves from it as much as possible to make things easy for themselves. There are likely some legal issues that other games seem to have solved, but ZOS isn't willing to look at. Due to this desire to keep distance, they won't likely devote any resources into making a safe system for players.

    They could implement a system in any number of ways, but they just haven't decided it's worth the resources, whether it's dev time or having lawyers look at the money side of it. They have made the decision that having players get scammed and having their CS team deal with the repercussions of that is the better course. When you look at it that way, if they look at this topic again, they may decide the easiest, cheapest solution is to just state that crowns for gold is no longer endorsed and is a TOS violation. That way they don't have to spend any money and can free up their CS reps.

    the way i see they could avoid legal trouble while having an "official" rate would be allowing everything in the crown store to be bought for gold (even if they set some ridiculous price like 100mil for a currently crown only house)

    that would be both:
    • a really good gold sink and
    • crowns could still be used for convenience if the person does not have the gold

    i doubt something like that would happen though because they plain make too much from the crown store to even go to this type of system

    honestly even crown gems and endeavor seals are convoluting the crown store, both of those things should just award crowns directly (it wouldnt be that much different from many mobile games that just straight up award premium currency for daily tasks)
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  • solidstate77ub17_ESO
    Yup, I lost a million gold awhile back due to a scammer. I submitted screenies and all...Zos told me it was a "buyer-beware" market. I quit the game for a year I was so angry.
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