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Elemental Catalyst got nerfed or is just glitched?

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scrosedk
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I used to be able to proc the EC effect (a fire aura on a foe)with a light attack from a 1H weapon with fire enchantment or both the lightning and ice aura with a crushing wall from an ice staff with Lightning enchantment. What I have found so far since the Ascending Tide Patch was released are these:
1. Light attack from a melee weapon with element enchantment (Fire /Lightning/ Ice) no longer proc the EC status on foes
2. Crushing wall from an Ice staff with Lightning Enchantment can only proc an Ice aura on foes, instead of both lightning and ice auras.
I am not sure what is going on.Can use some answers.
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  • kringled_1
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    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.
  • scrosedk
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.
    So it is a nerf on purpose, alas...

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  • jecks33
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    kringled_1 wrote: »
    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.


    ah ok, that's why tomorrow my encrasis didn't proc. Thanks Zos for another useless change. What's next?
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  • sarahthes
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    jecks33 wrote: »
    kringled_1 wrote: »
    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.


    ah ok, that's why tomorrow my encrasis didn't proc. Thanks Zos for another useless change. What's next?

    Encratis can be procced with scalding rune or burning embers or engulfing.
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    jecks33 wrote: »
    kringled_1 wrote: »
    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.


    ah ok, that's why tomorrow my encrasis didn't proc. Thanks Zos for another useless change. What's next?

    Encratis can be procced with scalding rune or burning embers or engulfing.

    scalding rune is the only one of those available to all classes, which i think is what people are having a problem with

    scalding rune, or a fire destro are probably the 2 easiest ways to get fire dmg on any class, but its gonna be uncommon to have a tank running a fire destro back bar
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    jecks33 wrote: »
    kringled_1 wrote: »
    They moved enchantments to count as "procs" and so they won't trigger the EC debuffs. The same for encratis. Good EC uptime from a tank is now going to be tricky to pull off.


    ah ok, that's why tomorrow my encrasis didn't proc. Thanks Zos for another useless change. What's next?

    Encratis can be procced with scalding rune or burning embers or engulfing.

    It also procs on chains. But as pointed out above, this shafts other classes when DKs have three easy ways to get Encratis to proc and other classes have to make bigger sacrifices now.
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    *Crushing shock intensifies*
  • jecks33
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    Cool, a kick in the balls to non-dk tanks, but hey, we have a more powerful monster set in the new dungeon!!

    Edited by jecks33 on March 17, 2022 6:22PM
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  • Jack-0
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/599921/encratis-and-elemental-catalyst-i-a-do-not-proc-off-of-glyphs-enchantments#latest

    We got discussion on it in the bug forum as well. I think this must surely count as an unintended consequence of the enchants-don't-proc sets change...because who in their right mind at ZOS thought this was okay? It's frigging stupid and it entirely goes against all the other homogenising they've been doing between classes to now have some class of tanks better able to keep uptimes on core support sets than others.

    It's stupid, it wasn't necessary and I don't like it.
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