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AWA and Skyshards
Nerdrage9000
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So I am assuming that once you get all Skyshards in a zone, and that achievement is tracked account wide - I don’t need to farm Skyshards for my alts now?
This has to be correct - right?
This has to be correct - right?
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kringled_1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As long as you only care about the achievement and not the skill points, sure.
Nothing has changed if you need the skill points other than some issues figuring out what shards you are missing.2 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You still have to collect the skyshards on your alts to have skillpoints. It's just that AWA has now removed the means to conveniently track your progress doing so.Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You'll still need to collect the skyshards if you want them to have the skill points, you just won't get a pop-up when you collect the last one to tell you that you've done it.
This update only made the achievements account wide, it didn't remove or auto-complete any content.
(It does mean you can't use the achievements to track which ones that character has collected, but you can use the zone guide because it's still counting skyshards correctly.)PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
"Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"2 -
tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nope, you won't get the skill points with them.
The add-ons on PC are broken, as they tracked by achievements. So you'll have to use the base game one, which only gives you generic clues and shows up when you're nearby.
Or.... you can buy them in the crown store.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger68,670 achievement points3 -
tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You'll still need to collect the skyshards if you want them to have the skill points, you just won't get a pop-up when you collect the last one to tell you that you've done it.
This update only made the achievements account wide, it didn't remove or auto-complete any content.
(It does mean you can't use the achievements to track which ones that character has collected, but you can use the zone guide because it's still counting skyshards correctly.)
There is definitely content that was removed with this update. Specifically the epilogue quests. Several of the "admirer/random encounter" quests as well in the game, as those were tied to those achievements.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger68,670 achievement points5 -
Edgemoor✭✭✭I'm amazed at how badly this has been done .... this sucks the life out of actually exploring on a new character.13
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shadyjane62✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They have the acheev, they do not have the skyshards nor the skill points gained from them.
And worse yet, there will be no map icons for anything already disovered regardless of the char.1 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »They have the acheev, they do not have the skyshards nor the skill points gained from them.
And worse yet, there will be no map icons for anything already disovered regardless of the char.
As you discover a location, an icon will appear on your map and it will be black, just like it was before. When you complete the location (or kill the boss, or claim the skyshard), the location will turn white. Nothing has changed in that regard.0 -
shadyjane62✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭shadyjane62 wrote: »They have the acheev, they do not have the skyshards nor the skill points gained from them.
And worse yet, there will be no map icons for anything already disovered regardless of the char.
As you discover a location, an icon will appear on your map and it will be black, just like it was before. When you complete the location (or kill the boss, or claim the skyshard), the location will turn white. Nothing has changed in that regard.
Before today I had a map that showed all the skyshards I still had to do from just looking at it. So you are telling me nothing is changed except I now have to run all over hoping I will trip over one.
Not an improvement.
Also my addon skyshards map no longer works.5 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭How did you see all the skyshards you hadn't done on the map? That was never true for me. A skyshard didn't appear unless I was close to it in game. Were you using an addon?1 -
Edgemoor✭✭✭Nope, you won't get the skill points with them.
The add-ons on PC are broken, as they tracked by achievements. So you'll have to use the base game one, which only gives you generic clues and shows up when you're nearby.
Or.... you can buy them in the crown store.
I'd guess the Crown Store might be the motivation behind the change.2 -
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Neither the 'Map Pins' nor the 'Skyshards' add-ons are currently working, as of the game update.
The change to account-wide achievements broke them both.3 -
AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah, I've used map pins before but because I generally explore an entire zone, once skyshard indicators were added to the base game, I ditched it. If I can't find something like a dungeon boss myself, I just google it.0 -
Zorrin✭✭✭✭✭
As you discover a location, an icon will appear on your map and it will be black, just like it was before. When you complete the location (or kill the boss, or claim the skyshard), the location will turn white. Nothing has changed in that regard.
This is absolutely untrue unless you are clearing an area for the first time ever on the account. I have two "main" characters on one server. One has done all Aldmeri zone quests/delves/etc. and the other has done the same but for Ebonheart zones. I just took my Aldmeri character to Stonefalls and approached an overland skyshard, a world boss, and a delve for the first time with her. The skyshard is the only icon that was black as it should be. The world boss and delve are already white icons just because my Ebonheart character has completed them. I did the WB for fun and was rewarded with a miniscule amount of xp because I didn't get the bonus xp you used to get for clearing a location for the first time
You can at least hover your cursor over the delve and it will tell you the status of the skyshard within: undiscovered or acquired. It did correctly state undiscovered for the Aldmeri character who just walked up and never went in even though the icon on the map was white.5 -
The_Boggart✭✭✭✭All skywards are mapped in uespwikki, just keep it open in a window or on the mobile0
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AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This is absolutely untrue unless you are clearing an area for the first time ever on the account. I have two "main" characters on one server.
I posted screenshots in another thread to show that it's true. The delve/dolmen/world boss will turn white if you get close enough to them. For delves, you have to go to the entrance. If you stay far enough away, they'll remain black. However, the zone guide will report the delves/dolmens/world bosses done combined for all your characters.
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Edgemoor✭✭✭The_Boggart wrote: »All skywards are mapped in uespwikki, just keep it open in a window or on the mobile
Thats not the issue, as the addon that tracks them also will display them. The problem is knowing which ones have been done.
The zone completion guide marks them off, so hopefully an addon can access this data ....1 -
Raevenglass✭✭✭Thats not the issue, as the addon that tracks them also will display them. The problem is knowing which ones have been done.
The zone completion guide marks them off, so hopefully an addon can access this data ....
This issue is your individual character data is now gone. So unless you used Code's addon to download individual character data before the patch, there is no data for a new Addon to reference for this task.1 -
Mythgard1967✭✭✭✭✭So went in a zone on a character that has not finished the reach; where another character has completed the reach.
While the map shows the skyshard as complete....the Zone guide does not
After running to a skyshard to validate that it now shows as complete in the zone guide, I confirmed it does
It is a little awkward knowing which one is which as the zone guide gives you a description vs the name of the shard...but hovering over the "completed" shard on the map does show the "description"; so while awkward...you don't have to track it in a spreadsheet or anything.
I have Destinations and Skyshards Add ons....and I would guess that there will be an add on change to make this more "elegant"0 -
Zorrin✭✭✭✭✭
I posted screenshots in another thread to show that it's true. The delve/dolmen/world boss will turn white if you get close enough to them. For delves, you have to go to the entrance. If you stay far enough away, they'll remain black. However, the zone guide will report the delves/dolmens/world bosses done combined for all your characters.
Are you saying that if you stay far enough away so that you don't discover the place at all, it stays black on your compass? Because if you discover it, it turns white. If you don't discover it maybe it stays black, but it won't show up on your map at all anymore after you walk away (out of compass range) from it. If you have permanent icons on your map that are black, was the place discovered but not completed before this update? Has it ever been completed with another character? Maybe we are using different definitions of "discover" here or something
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mbeetley_ESO✭✭✭
I posted screenshots in another thread to show that it's true. The delve/dolmen/world boss will turn white if you get close enough to them. For delves, you have to go to the entrance. If you stay far enough away, they'll remain black. However, the zone guide will report the delves/dolmens/world bosses done combined for all your characters.
Ditto to this. Those three things on the Zone Guide are now broken AFAIC. Near as I can tell the rest of the Zone Guide still tracks individual progress.0 -
ElvenOverlord✭✭✭✭You'll still need to collect the skyshards if you want them to have the skill points, you just won't get a pop-up when you collect the last one to tell you that you've done it.
This update only made the achievements account wide, it didn't remove or auto-complete any content.
(It does mean you can't use the achievements to track which ones that character has collected, but you can use the zone guide because it's still counting skyshards correctly.)
There is definitely content that was removed with this update. Specifically the epilogue quests. Several of the "admirer/random encounter" quests as well in the game, as those were tied to those achievements.
The more I learn about these changes, the more I hate them...3
