Official Discussion Thread for "Ascending Tide and Update 33 Now Live On PC/MAC/Stadia"

ZOS_Kevin

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article, "Ascending Tide and Update 33 Now Live On PC/MAC/Stadia"

Your Legacy of the Bretons year-long adventure sets sail with the Ascending Tide dungeon DLC pack and Update 33 base-game patch.

Kesstryl

I would love to play the new dungeons, I would love to be excited for the new shiny things, but Account Wide Achievements have broken some very important things this update. Here's my feedback:

1. Decouple NPC reactions and dialogue from achievements! I don't want to listen to immersion breaking NPC conversations or have broken dialogue trees on my alts because you fail to make a simple change that will keep the game world narratively coherent for alts.

2. Give Achievement only quests a spot in the hidden quest database per character so alts can complete those quests! I want to talk to Count Ravenwatch in the quest Taking Up The Mantle on more than one character! I want all of those quests available to all of my alts!

Do this and I might sub and play again. You already forced me to lose my individual character data and tracking which I wanted to keep in addition to also having Account Wide Achievements, but I will not stand for an incoherent game world on my alt characters! While these issues remain, I will not sub or play your game. The Elder Scrolls series of games have always been story rich and rich in world building, and before this update ESO followed that tradition. Today the game breaks the 4th wall because the game world reacts to all your characters as if they are the same person, a.k.a The Player. No, my level 3 character did not do anything and NPCs should not react to her like she is the hero of so and so or did such and such because she is SUPPOSED to be a unique person in Tamriel, not an avatar of me. My level 3 alt should be able to talk to Count Ravenwatch at the end of Markarth regardless if I already have the achievement or not. My level 3 alt should be able to do all the quests in the future and not have any locked out because I did them on another character already. This holds true for all my alts who didn't get to those quests yet! Right now the game world is broken, and an Elder Scrolls title should not receive this type of treatment. I'm done until you fix these things!


edited to bold the point

newtinmpls

My experience so far

Took me about 4 hours of restarting computer, repairing and restarting the game/launcher to get in at all.

Group finder broken.
BG finder broken.
Loading screens of 14+ min (when you get on at all)
Loading screens when changing zones, entering delves or hopping to another player have long lag (sometimes 10+ min)
Often while in a loading screen getting dumped with the error claiming I've been bumped for inactivity

How am I experiencing the new dungeons? I'm not. They aren't working

LunaticOne_

What happened to the changes to piercing Javelin from the PTS? Are they live despite not being mentioned in the notes? Console player here

Neugeniko

I logged off. The queue's have been broken for half a day now.

Oliviander

You forgot to mention the main feature of update 33 in the article:

The end of ESO being an RPG by Destruction of all Character History !

nuff said

S0Z0H

Kesstryl wrote: »

I would love to play the new dungeons, I would love to be excited for the new shiny things, but Account Wide Achievements have broken some very important things this update. Here's my feedback:

1. Decouple NPC reactions and dialogue from achievements! I don't want to listen to immersion breaking NPC conversations or have broken dialogue trees on my alts because you fail to make a simple change that will keep the game world narratively coherent for alts.

2. Give Achievement only quests a spot in the hidden quest database per character so alts can complete those quests! I want to talk to Count Ravenwatch in the quest Taking Up The Mantle on more than one character! I want all of those quests available to all of my alts!

Do this and I might sub and play again. You already forced me to lose my individual character data and tracking which I wanted to keep in addition to also having Account Wide Achievements, but I will not stand for an incoherent game world on my alt characters! While these issues remain, I will not sub or play your game. The Elder Scrolls series of games have always been story rich and rich in world building, and before this update ESO followed that tradition. Today the game breaks the 4th wall because the game world reacts to all your characters as if they are the same person, a.k.a The Player. No, my level 3 character did not do anything and NPCs should not react to her like she is the hero of so and so or did such and such because she is SUPPOSED to be a unique person in Tamriel, not an avatar of me. My level 3 alt should be able to talk to Count Ravenwatch at the end of Markarth regardless if I already have the achievement or not. My level 3 alt should be able to do all the quests in the future and not have any locked out because I did them on another character already. This holds true for all my alts who didn't get to those quests yet! Right now the game world is broken, and an Elder Scrolls title should not receive this type of treatment. I'm done until you fix these things!


edited to bold the point

Agreed. The npc talk needs to be separate

Random NPC lady " You saved the Queen! Stars keep you safe, traveler."
Level 4 "sea elf" RP alt toon " I didn't save your imposter queen!"

Vonkarolinas

You’ll be able to purchase items and Antiquity Leads that require Achievement completion

What? Purchase Antiquity Leads? Where? From who? It seems some LOT of info was left out there.

SpiritKitten

Vonkarolinas wrote: »

You’ll be able to purchase items and Antiquity Leads that require Achievement completion

What? Purchase Antiquity Leads? Where? From who? It seems some LOT of info was left out there.

You can purchase leads for Zone specific maps furnishings from merchants in that zone provided you have the achievement required

Vonkarolinas

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Vonkarolinas wrote: »

You’ll be able to purchase items and Antiquity Leads that require Achievement completion

What? Purchase Antiquity Leads? Where? From who? It seems some LOT of info was left out there.

You can purchase leads for Zone specific maps furnishings from merchants in that zone provided you have the achievement required

Oh, those. It sounded like they meant different leads beyond just the maps.

Lopti

Just fix dungeon finder already... that is all I ask. At the very least put out a statement stating you know it is broken and that you are working on it...

duagloth

Lopti wrote: »

Just fix dungeon finder already... that is all I ask. At the very least put out a statement stating you know it is broken and that you are working on it...

havent they been saying that about the whole game though?

Neugeniko

I tried playing again today. Took several hours to get things done that normally take less than a hour. ESO - Premium Prices, Subpar resource allocation.