Considering Returning after 2.5 years, Couple Questions?

flguy147ub17_ESO

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

1. Max CP as in 3600? Quite a grind, but its completely unnecessary with the new CP system. 400 CP to the low/mid 4 digits, which really is all you need? Honestly not that bad. If you want to grind, it can be done very efficiently these days. I am just under 2k, and its overkill. I dont even spend the points I get these days.

2. Balance is what it is. Always something a little out of whack. Dark Convergence is a set plaguing PVP at the moment. Performance is pretty terrible at primetime, but otherwise its not as bad as I have seen it.

3. There is now a stickerbook and smart loot. Stickerbook means once you have a gear piece and bind it, it saves and you can reconstruct it at anytime with transmute crystals. Smart loot means that for most drop sources of gear, you will get things in that loot pool that arent in your stickerbook until its full. This really helps when going after something specific, but of course, if filling your sticker book completely is the goal, its quite the endeavor. 45 runs of a dungeon and you will have everything in it. If you want something like a VMA staff, it only takes as many runs as there are arena weapons to guarantee you get it. Much better than it used to be.

4. Seems pretty much status quo on my end. Always liked the ESO community for the most part.

Necrotech_Master

for 1, max cp is technically 3600, but effective max cp is around 1600-1800, and it would take less time to grind to this point than it used to

for 2, pvp performance is still abyssmal in places like grey host, but in lower pop campaigns or IC it ranges from "not bad" to "no issue", balance wise i think its in a pretty good spot right now if you are a skilled player, certain classes are faring better than others (magdk/magplar/magcro are considered "top tier" right now, but other classes are still viable if you build/play right)

for 3, im sure you could find a lot of it for trade (for non dungeon sets), but you would at minimum have to re-run dungeons to get gear from there added to your collection again

for 4, this is kind of a hit/miss, some people have bad experiences, but i dont think it is widespread (there are always going to be bad apples in the group somewhere), the community is generally very helpful

flguy147ub17_ESO

Thanks guys, Smart Loot system sounds pretty awesome and really does help. I remember back in the day before transmutation or whatever it was called. Farming the Lich restoration Staff when it was really good early one, probably did it 250 times and only got it once and was a crappy trait. Just dont want to do crazy stuff like that anymore.

Arunei

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

1. Max CP as in 3600? Quite a grind, but its completely unnecessary with the new CP system. 400 CP to the low/mid 4 digits, which really is all you need? Honestly not that bad. If you want to grind, it can be done very efficiently these days. I am just under 2k, and its overkill. I dont even spend the points I get these days.

2. Balance is what it is. Always something a little out of whack. Dark Convergence is a set plaguing PVP at the moment. Performance is pretty terrible at primetime, but otherwise its not as bad as I have seen it.

3. There is now a stickerbook and smart loot. Stickerbook means once you have a gear piece and bind it, it saves and you can reconstruct it at anytime with transmute crystals. Smart loot means that for most drop sources of gear, you will get things in that loot pool that arent in your stickerbook until its full. This really helps when going after something specific, but of course, if filling your sticker book completely is the goal, its quite the endeavor. 45 runs of a dungeon and you will have everything in it. If you want something like a VMA staff, it only takes as many runs as there are arena weapons to guarantee you get it. Much better than it used to be.

4. Seems pretty much status quo on my end. Always liked the ESO community for the most part.

Curated drops don't guarantee you'll get gear you don't have yet, it's just much much much more likely, from what I understand. It's possible you can get a drop of something you already have but it's a very small likelihood. Also, curated drops only apply to certain things like bosses. It doesn't apply to things like chests (aside from chests that spawn after certain bosses because those chests are the boss loot) or trash mobs.

McTaterskins

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

1. Depending on builds and role, anything from 1400-1800 cp is plenty and/or excess. Max is 3600. No real point to the maximum at all. Especially not with the armory system. It eliminated the need for beyond 1800 cp. (So they could... cut it in half right now and it wouldn't matter one bit.) Leveling is much faster than it used to be. So won't take you much time at all to get up to snuff.

2. Balance right now? It's 'ok'. Healing power creep is still a problem. Dark Convergence is annoying. They didn't account for people using Rush of Agony to legit ping pong people in the group's ulti dumps. Plaguebreak is terrible and causes desync + has a vicious death component. Kynmarcher's causes desync and can bug out and stack from multiple users. Honestly though, it sounds worse than what it is. Majority of people don't actually focus on trolling with it. I wouldn't let it deter you from coming back. PvP is better on ESO (when it's performing) than most games. imo.

However; when the update hits, it's all going to be pure and total garbage being piled onto an already started, small, dumpster fire. Make sure you pack a lunch for any pvp battle against anyone with any sort of functional knowledge of the game once the changes set in. Going to be a whole lot of stalemates and/or 20 minute fights. PvE content wise? Don't let it deter you, game will be easier. PvP wise? Not going to be a good patch cycle at all. It's not a primary focus at the moment for them to fix the stuff as they're reportedly working on a base code re-architecture of the game to help improve it. Matt posted it would take most of


3. Grind is pretty much cut to shreds. The new sticker book system and smart loot is pretty awesome. Was a nice execution on their part, imo. - Even if you have the worst luck in the world, you're not subject to running something 50+ times anymore. - RNG luck on some of the mythic leads however, can still get a little frustrating.

4. Community is what you'd expect. Bad apples, good eggs, lots of great folks, couplefew toxic folks. Definitely not something I'd let deter you from coming back.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Arunei wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

1. Max CP as in 3600? Quite a grind, but its completely unnecessary with the new CP system. 400 CP to the low/mid 4 digits, which really is all you need? Honestly not that bad. If you want to grind, it can be done very efficiently these days. I am just under 2k, and its overkill. I dont even spend the points I get these days.

2. Balance is what it is. Always something a little out of whack. Dark Convergence is a set plaguing PVP at the moment. Performance is pretty terrible at primetime, but otherwise its not as bad as I have seen it.

3. There is now a stickerbook and smart loot. Stickerbook means once you have a gear piece and bind it, it saves and you can reconstruct it at anytime with transmute crystals. Smart loot means that for most drop sources of gear, you will get things in that loot pool that arent in your stickerbook until its full. This really helps when going after something specific, but of course, if filling your sticker book completely is the goal, its quite the endeavor. 45 runs of a dungeon and you will have everything in it. If you want something like a VMA staff, it only takes as many runs as there are arena weapons to guarantee you get it. Much better than it used to be.

4. Seems pretty much status quo on my end. Always liked the ESO community for the most part.

Curated drops don't guarantee you'll get gear you don't have yet, it's just much much much more likely, from what I understand. It's possible you can get a drop of something you already have but it's a very small likelihood. Also, curated drops only apply to certain things like bosses. It doesn't apply to things like chests (aside from chests that spawn after certain bosses because those chests are the boss loot) or trash mobs.

Yeah, that is why I said "most" drop sources, not all. They confirmed that with things like dungeons bosses it is supposed to be guaranteed, but there have been bugs reported. When I was farming Tzogvins, I got 2 double drops in 45 runs, and that was right after the system was introduced. Dungeon bosses, world bosses, Trial bosses, Arena bosses, Public dungeons bosses (i detect a theme here) all have curated drops, and that covers a large portion of the stickerbook.

tsaescishoeshiner

1. "Max CP" for combat is now ~1200, and leveling each CP is way faster than the old system. Like you get 0 additional benefit after ~1200. I think you could probably get to 1000 in like a few weeks of grinding, but could also progress more steadily by doing random daily dungeon/battleground.
2. They've been working on a lot of potential improvements to PvP performance, and have openly said that they know it's not as good as it was at launch. Don't think people have seen major improvements yet.
3. There's still not a big grind in PvP or PvE, especially with the new Collections system, where you can Reconstruct any set piece that you've bound to your account.
4. The community is still great, but there will definitely by salty players in Cyro. The community tends to be worst right after the yearly Chapter drops, as new players troll zone chat, and unsatisfied former players come back for a month to complain about things lol. Find a good PvP guild!

flguy147ub17_ESO

Thanks, people keep saying reconstruct any piece i get? Do you mean change the trait or what? That got in shortly before i quite but not the sticker system. Also do i need Antiquities for meta or to have a good build?

Sylvermynx

It's a new system. The gear items you collect can be bound to your account, and you can then do with them whatever you like: decon, sell, whatever.

Then you can go to a transmute station, and reconstruct a gear item using transmute crystals (varying amounts depending on how many of an item set you have "collected/bound to account". And your lower level characters can make the same gear at the transmute station at their levels.

It's actually rather an elegant solution, though getting the transmute crystals in quantity isn't, for me at least, fun.

francesinhalover

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hey everyone, I was a long term player since the betas until about 2.5 year ago i finally left. After trying almost every game out there that interest me since i quit, but nothing has "hooked" me except for a couple months of Warhammer Online on the private server. My questions below.

1. I have Accounts on every platform but would love to comeback on PC, but only got like 400 CP i think? My Xbox was my main account. I know the CP system go revamped since then, how big of a grind would it be for me to get to max CP now?

2. How is the pvp balance and Cyrodiil performance? There use to always be some broken build for some class that would last a couple patches. Not sure how it is currently. Also Cyrodiil performance i hope is better, i do have a very good PC fwiw.

3. Catching up with gearing? how would that be for me. I have grinded my butt off on Xbox with most sets and honestly just dont want to grind so much again on this game. Some grinding is fine but dont want to "No Life" it to just catch up to be competitive especially in PVP.

4. How is the community currently? I always thought it had a pretty good community when group with players, very seldom did i ever run into a toxic player.

Thanks guys.

1.
You get most of the cp dmg boost at cp 900 more or less.
I see people reach it in from 0-900 in 3 months or 4.

2.
Its worse now, but will get very very bad once new update drops 14 march.

3.
Depends on the class, but theres lots of good gear one can use. And at 400 cp you shouldnt worry so much about meta lol.

4.
It's the same, but with less players.

markulrich1966

CP:

they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling.

I am cp1700 on my main account, and lately started a second.
CP372, and meanwhile playing it feels not much different to the main account.

Reasons: several max values were halved, so you no longer have such a strong increase in damage maxing CP out.
Then the maximum possible 3600 are a theoretical value, to have a buffer for future upgrades.

And you have slottable CP skills now.
Meaning 1300-1400 is the maximum you can slot at a time, those you get in addition just give you more variety.
So that you could slot a CP skill that increases single target damage instead of one that increases AOE damage depending on the content or dungeon you play. So more akind of final finetuning.

spartaxoxo

1. Max CP is not a thing to care about anymore. Somewhere in the thousand ish range forget which number you will have all the points you need and will probably forget to spend the rest.

2. perfomance is still the same, but they are currently working on a massive server re-architecture to address after identifying a major issue in the foundational code. So it will probably get way better after that is done, though it's unlikely to be done soon. PvP won't get new gameplay content until then.

3. Gear is far easier to get now. It's a night and day difference. The stickerbook lets you recraft any gear you collected from a dungeon in any trait you know. And bosses now first try to give you something you don't already know. Antiquities are also a new source of gear, it's got some amazing gear but it's not necessary to hitting hard.

4. Same as always (there are more players since you last played)

S0Z0H

Return At Your Own Risk lol.
It's alright , with all jokes aside. Grinding XP is a breeze from what I hear from new players and their experience. Taking some just a few months to get from 0 to the 1000+ champ points.
Pvp has its short bursts of great fun, which can be frequent , but it all becomes a dumpster fire once player numbers start increasing, and that's very common.
Gear and builds are plenty, now that old proc builds were given new life , and the current cheese is Dark Convergence so be sure to pick up that set when u visit Cyrodiil , lol, it's what all the cool people use haha
There's mythic items now, Over powered items that help complete any players cheese build.
Community is ok. And there's tons of helpful videos and articles made by fans on the internet , so you will be sure to find all the guides and help you need.
Over all, it's worth getting back into, as long as you remember to have fun and not take it too seriously
, Oh and ZOS redid stuff so it's more possible to make lots of interesting HYBRID builds .

Mayrael

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Thanks, people keep saying reconstruct any piece i get? Do you mean change the trait or what? That got in shortly before i quite but not the sticker system. Also do i need Antiquities for meta or to have a good build?

Anything that bounds item to your account or deconstructing places set piece in your sticker book.

Antiquities are nice and used in most of the meta builds but don't lose your hope, most of them are easy to get (few hours at most). There are some tedious gated behind dailies and RNG which is not very good combination but still, getting them is still easier than farming that "inferno staff"

All the rest has been covered by others.

Balance is pretty good, performance as it used to be - peak hours still bad, outside of it it's ok.

Getting to functional CP cap now is matter of few weeks, nothing exhausting (the best option is duo BRP with someone who knows what to do).

xXSilverDragonXx

As someone who returned after a few years as well, CP levels much faster than it did. I think they raised the cap or adjusted it. I came back at CP 860 IIRC, and I was 1k before I knew it. I just hit 1200. I think it was 400k exp per cp point when I stopped playing (or roughly that). Right now for me it's not 400k at 1200. I think it's around 300k or maybe 350k.

If you want to level it faster, just do a random daily dungeon on each toon or some toons. That's 100k per toon. And if you come in first or second in BG that's another 100k. With a few toons doing just one random daily, you will rank up very fast. I'd go with PC if that's what you prefer. Also, the random daily gives 10 transmute that you can use for that gear you want from the stickerbook (transmute station reconstruction option - which you only have to provide upgrade mats and transmute crystals for).

Frankly, I was blown away by how much easier it seemed upon returning. I leveled quicker than I imagined and am pretty caught up now (can't use all the CP points I have at once and have the best ones on each toon now) and gear was simple to reconstruct even for new toons as well as changing some sets for old ones. Doing those daily random dungeons was killing two birds with one stone!