Cyro is a joke now

slan77

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

Jappanda

It's been like this for quite a while, and there is little hope in sight I'm afraid.

FluffWit

I thought they fixed all this when they halved group size and disabled all the proc sets?

Elephant42

Some players seem to be able to control lag at will to their own advantage.
They never seem to suffer CC, their health bars never move, they hit like trucks, they move faster than seems possible - all at the same time...

Thunda

FluffWit wrote: »

I thought they fixed all this when they halved group size and disabled all the proc sets?

Yeah...I think they concluded after all the tests on live servers that no "significant" improvements to performance were realized. The group sizes were just never reversed.

S0Z0H

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

Just wondering, What hardware are you using ???

And no I'm not gonna blame it on your hardware. The server architecture is the problem. But I'd like to know what your playing on. Thanks

RisenEclipse

I just find Cyro incredibly boring. Take a keep. Lose a keep. Take another keep. Lose a keep. I'm not a PvP player, but it certainly doesn't make me want to become one. I feel like if they fix the Cyro performance issue and add... more... to it, then maybe I'll consider doing PvP more then one in a blue moon.

Vulkunne

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

There have been lots of problems tied to and causing issues with lag for some time now.

Was able to enjoy some of the event however as soon as certain zergs came online and arrived at the Ales Siege everything went to hell. Hence, conversation I was having with someone else on here about leap not working... like hardly ever.. especially during Prime Time.

BazOfWar

There is a new game releasing imminently and you will notice the pvp population drop considerably, i very much doubt that the devs are prioritising pvp fixes like they say they are.

[snip]
[edited for bashing & conspiracy theory]

FannyWarden

Lag is bad and low pop bonus is so broken that campaign scoring is utterly useless. I am in GH now and AD has low pop bonus for the past 30 min and is the only faction pop locked now and for the past several hours.

If I didn't love wiping Drac and Tyr so much I would not even play anymore. Of course they are no longer what they used to be, but it is still fun to dance upon their dead bodies.

Yeah, Cyro is a joke!!!

EdmondDontes

BazOfWar wrote: »

There is a new game releasing imminently and you will notice the pvp population drop considerably, i very much doubt that the devs are prioritising pvp fixes like they say they are.

[snip]

Most of the complaints I see come from PvE players complaining about PvP and PvP players.

DagenHawk

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

I don't think it's going to matter much...

I'm convinced that Cyro is bound for a PVE revamp, and honestly the vast majority of players want that. I think ZoS has something diffrent in mind for PVP.

EdmondDontes

DagenHawk wrote: »

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

I don't think it's going to matter much...

I'm convinced that Cyro is bound for a PVE revamp, and honestly the vast majority of players want that. I think ZoS has something diffrent in mind for PVP.

I think you are probably right about the likely future of cyrodiil. Everything ZOS has done or not done regarding cyrodiil points to shutting the zone down for PvP purposes in the relatively near future.

You are very wrong about it being what most people want though. Most people want the cyrodiil we used to have to return. Instead they keep degrading the zone in one way or another and it keeps getting worse.

DagenHawk

EdmondDontes wrote: »

DagenHawk wrote: »

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

I don't think it's going to matter much...

I'm convinced that Cyro is bound for a PVE revamp, and honestly the vast majority of players want that. I think ZoS has something diffrent in mind for PVP.

You are very wrong about it being what most people want though. Most people want the cyrodiil we used to have to return. Instead they keep degrading the zone in one way or another and it keeps getting worse. [snip]

You might be right, the reason I belive it is because I belong to a couple very large guilds, and we have talked about this a lot and most of them have that opinion, but that is only a small percentage of players so maybe you're right.

[edited to remove quote]

Jaraal

Maybe when they remove all that achievement data that's clogging up the servers, things will get better.


Oh, wait...... Alliance War rank will still be tracked per character. Never mind.

BOctober25

I have been playing on XBOX Series X and have not had any issues like these. Is this a PC only related issue? I do have ESO on PC as well. I just need to catch up on that platform with Blackwood.

Theros

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

Yes! This PvP event is indeed a BIG joke. And how in the hell someone call this PvP!?

1) in battleground's You need to wait 20s to respawn... other times jus 0.5s. But waiting 20s for respawn in pvp!? looool. It's not PvP. It's a joke!

2) In Imperial City If your alliance have no Portal... it's other joke. You Die, 20s Loading respawn! Die.... no portal to revive, 20s Loading Screen and start all over. It's a JOKE!

3) in Cyrodill..... You traver for 15 minutes to so to some place (if you horse is not fast enought, you will take 20/25 minutes to reach one point.... But, if someone kill you... Start all over! Traver for more 25minutes just because you need one delve, and you have no castle to respawn. This is NOT PvP. It's a Joke!

4) Ok.... Take castles in Cyrodill is fun xD i assume that and i dont event know how fun this is. Its nice and fun.... But.... Travel all wait back if we die and if we dont have any keep?!?! No!!!! It's not PvP or jun. It's a Joke!


I hate PvP in this game. I can't understand it, Make no sence.... But i wanna the tickets yes. Cuz i Pay the game and i have plus. So, why not go to participate in event. But the more i play in PvP the more i hate it.
Once again... this is NOT PvP zones\game. It's a joke!

(Mods don't like when type like that... i'm realy sorry. But its what i feal)

WildRaptorX

A group I was running with took an outpost earlier, then we all could only move slowly. We’ve all experienced awful delays in our skills and being hit by skills.

I had 0 issues before the event. The servers cant handle faction lock and queues

James-Wayne

Try playing Cryo in Australia during event, it's a child's picture book.

Aardappelboom

I just play IC, I actually enjoy the lag free, smaller scale PVP battles.

I like Cyro but it's unplayable the way it is now during the event.

moleculardrugs

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

I'm on Google Stadia and my ping today was rarely 100, which it normally is. Google Stadia is cloud-based gaming and it helps people like me who don't own gaming rigs or fast PCs to play ESO.

My ping bounced to 166 and at times was 260-270 when huge sieges were happening. Last year's Midyear Mayhem wasn't quite as bad I think.

But I don't think the blame is entirely on ZOS. I heard something about a game engine being outdated because the game was released in 2014. I hope the game can be reworked into ESO 2 someday instead of being entirely scrapped. It seems like that is possible with how things can be recopied and configured to work on newer systems from older systems. Software I mean, but I'm not an expert.

Kredo

moleculardrugs wrote: »

slan77 wrote: »

I've been playing this game for about 4 years but this year cyro is a joke. The lag is crazy. My jabs don't land. Like npc was there 3 seconds ago. Same for players. This event is no fun.

I'm on Google Stadia and my ping today was rarely 100, which it normally is. Google Stadia is cloud-based gaming and it helps people like me who don't own gaming rigs or fast PCs to play ESO.

My ping bounced to 166 and at times was 260-270 when huge sieges were happening. Last year's Midyear Mayhem wasn't quite as bad I think.

But I don't think the blame is entirely on ZOS. I heard something about a game engine being outdated because the game was released in 2014. I hope the game can be reworked into ESO 2 someday instead of being entirely scrapped. It seems like that is possible with how things can be recopied and configured to work on newer systems from older systems. Software I mean, but I'm not an expert.

Cyrodiil existed from the start of the game, it used the be way more populated and performance was significantly better so i sincerely doubt that the age of the engine is the root of the problem

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo

James-Wayne wrote: »

Try playing Cryo in Australia during event, it's a child's picture book.

Yeah don't worry, France is no better during prime time and I'm a one hour flight away from Frankfurt.

My ping fluctuates a lot from 80 to around 300-400 at some times and things are just 'sluggish'. I've noticed about a 2 second delay at some moments and other players in zone chat also acknowledge it.

coletas

Well... PvP players in this game has only 3 zones to play. Small zones comparing to most PvP games I play. Why converting Cyro in a another boring questing zone? Didnt we bought the game and a ton of dlcs during years to be able to play just PvP? Do you think that the unscalability of this wont catch u sooner or later? You all, pvers, pvpers and pvppvers bought a game with a premises and a gameplay. Its not fair to change it everytime they want. Add things if u want, but dont remove a bit from what made us to bought something. Anyway, I dont mind, i will never buy anything from Zos while the same team is there. My last hope is in Microsoft taking control, but I can imagine contracts terms, so i will keep playing other games while having more hd free space XD

Yes, its a joke... A joke where u all spent money

method__01

this is -by far- the worst pvp event i've played-and ive played all of them-practically after 5-6 pm the game is unplayable
many ppl warned zos that the server capacity is the prob and by bringing new campaigns for the event does not solve
the prob.cause ppl want to play with their friends and in their home campaign,not in an empty server,no1 cares
so not only some1 must wait 1 hour to log but must face latency-up to 700/900 all times,skills not firing,invisible oils,aoe and the rest

zos has stopped last year mayhem, knowing that would end up in a lagfest, i dont understand why decided continue with this
when they knew the situation

Megatto

They should just convert Cyro into a PVE zone at this point. Add some kind of smaller siege mode to battlegrounds where it's only 2 teams.

BronzeCaiman

PvP is alright, In Cyrodiil there is counter play if you use meta builds and have a coordinated group. Latency will make you suffer in any action PvP game, the card game we are getting will give you less latency dependent PvP which is why I am a major advocate for it. It´s not even that I suffer from ping, I sit at 60 regularly, its that I prefer a more fair PvP, where your set bonuses, CP and gear quality don´t matter so much.

Maybe a queue for a dueling game mode would highlight more of the problematic things in PvP, like unkillable builds, abusing CC immunity and insane movement speed to basically troll other players. A lot of players on the forums defend PvP and you have to realize it has about the same learning curve and gearing requirements as veteran trials.

The endgame of this game in general is in really bad shape IMO and boring, but I think 5+ years of horizontal progression will do that. I feel like this is the last chapter I´m going to buy for full price, because the card game will most likely become base game in 2 years like every other aspect of PvP. Also you can get every DLC and chapter for probably less than 50% of its normal price if you buy crowns on sale and wait for the DLC to go on sale.

EddieRavendark

We all know the problem rests with the sets zos release for pvp. Vicious Death, Dark Convirgins, Plaguebreak etc etc being spammed over and over by the majority of players, uses so much of a servers resource and calculations speed.

It's still beyond me how Plaguebreak and Dark Convergence ever made it to the live server! Like what on earth were they thinking, it's laughable...

moleculardrugs

coletas wrote: »

Well... PvP players in this game has only 3 zones to play. Small zones comparing to most PvP games I play. Why converting Cyro in a another boring questing zone? Didnt we bought the game and a ton of dlcs during years to be able to play just PvP? Do you think that the unscalability of this wont catch u sooner or later? You all, pvers, pvpers and pvppvers bought a game with a premises and a gameplay. Its not fair to change it everytime they want. Add things if u want, but dont remove a bit from what made us to bought something. Anyway, I dont mind, i will never buy anything from Zos while the same team is there. My last hope is in Microsoft taking control, but I can imagine contracts terms, so i will keep playing other games while having more hd free space XD

Yes, its a joke... A joke where u all spent money

at least they could add more battlegrounds maps

EdmondDontes

Megatto wrote: »

They should just convert Cyro into a PVE zone at this point. Add some kind of smaller siege mode to battlegrounds where it's only 2 teams.

No. And please stop with suggesting the only true PvP zone in the game be turned into PvE. Just stop.