Trophy Dyes

Rezdayn

I have every dye in the game minus these "common" monster trophy dyes.
The drop rate is next to 0%.
Why?
Why are these "common" and basic looking dyes near impossible to obtain?
Can someone who works for ZOS finally reply to us and tell us why?

whitecrow

Drop rate? If you complete the achievement, you get the dye.

Rezdayn

whitecrow wrote: »

Drop rate? If you complete the achievement, you get the dye.

The trophies that award the dye?

whitecrow

Rezdayn wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Drop rate? If you complete the achievement, you get the dye.

The trophies that award the dye?

What specifically are you looking for? I've never heard of one that depends on RNG.

Rezdayn

whitecrow wrote: »

Rezdayn wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Drop rate? If you complete the achievement, you get the dye.

The trophies that award the dye?

What specifically are you looking for? I've never heard of one that depends on RNG.

All of them take items to drop? I dont think you are thinking of the correct achievements. Every trophy dyes is given after you collect x amount of items from x enemy.

These items appear to have a near 0% drop rate.
Thus you cant get the achievement without going insane.

Fennwitty

Lots of the original 'common' classed dyes are based on the monster type hunter achievements, which are not actually based on kill X monsters, but on collect X special drops which sometimes come from monsters.

Yes the drop rate appears absurdly low.

I've played over 2 years now. On PTS where they pool the achievements for these dyes so all characters count toward completing it -- I have literally only unlocked two of the eight 'common' dyes.

On live I have one of eight.

The colors are so old and faded compared to the newer dyes that by the time a long-time player will unlock them, they'll almost certainly never use them.

Would be more appealing for newer players but they simply wouldn't get any of them without astronomical luck.

Arunei

OP is saying they have every Dye except the one associated with the Trophy achieves, and is saying the drop rate on the trophies is too low.

It really is ridiculous that these things drop so rarely. I've been playing since closed beta and the main character I craft on, do dailies on, do general questing and generally get my achievements on, only has the Dwemer one complete. There are certain ones that I'm not even halfway toward completing.

Apparently progress towards those will be account-wide instead of character-specific once the account-wide achievements thing comes. I'm not sure what trophies my other long-time characters have that my main doesn't, but it'll make it easier when you don't have the darn things spread over a handful of characters.

Fennwitty

Arunei wrote: »

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It really is ridiculous that these things drop so rarely. I've been playing since closed beta and the main character I craft on, do dailies on, do general questing and generally get my achievements on, only has the Dwemer one complete. There are certain ones that I'm not even halfway toward completing.
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Yep, the dwarven construct one is unlocked on my live too :P

Literally only two pieces have to be collected compared to some of the other with 6 or more distinct trophy items.

Necrotech_Master

it was much easier to finish the trophies when the trophy items were tradeable consumables way way back in the early day

this is actually one of the pain points of why i am for acct wide achievements because of these achievements after the change

situation:
trophy achievement has 5 requirements, my main has 3, i was playing an alt and got drop 4 on the alt, because i now cannot trade the trophy and its auto counted for the alt, it means i now have to waste even more time farming on my main to actually get credit

ive had this situation happen at least 5 times since they changed the way the trophy drops worked so i was like eff it, im just gonna get on my main, and camp farm spawns of the enemies that give me the drops till i finish these stupid achievements (which i did, some were very painful, took me 3 days of farming tigers to get the cats claw trophy)

the account wide achievements will certainly make these easier to complete for those who still need to finish them

Arunei

Yep, I imagine it's the only one out of the whole lot that most people have, and as OP said, with these being counted as ""common"" Dyes, it makes no sense that the trophies are so rare. I've been debating going to places where a bunch of mobs for each trophy I need are and farming them that way, but I'm not sure I have the patience for it.

ZeroDPS

+1

Khenarthi

I've been playing since the game launched and only completed all the monster trophy achievements a few months ago. Admittedly, I have not farmed - whatever dropped was fine - but yes, the drop rate is very low on some of them.

Rezdayn

Arunei wrote: »

Yep, I imagine it's the only one out of the whole lot that most people have, and as OP said, with these being counted as ""common"" Dyes, it makes no sense that the trophies are so rare. I've been debating going to places where a bunch of mobs for each trophy I need are and farming them that way, but I'm not sure I have the patience for it.

Dont bother tbh.
I have killed thousands of x mob in the hopes to get the trophy to drop and it just doesn't. They DO drop. A lot of people have finished these achievements but the drop rate is soooooo low.
The only people who finish these achievements are the ones who are willing to fight going insane for the sake of a low quality "common" dye they wont ever use...
Honestly the drop rate is so poor that farming a couple of hours of the mob per days for over a week which results in thousands of kills still seems to not get me the trophy...
Its just so annoying have all my dyes collected minus these "common" dyes and using the outfit station just to be reminded that I cant get them or finish the collection...

whitecrow

Oh, you mean the drop rate on the trophies themselves. Sorry, I misunderstood.
Yes, I still have not gotten all of them despite playing almost every day since 2016. This is one of those achievements that just happens when it happens.
Some trophies do seem to be more common than others.

Arunei

whitecrow wrote: »

Oh, you mean the drop rate on the trophies themselves. Sorry, I misunderstood.
Yes, I still have not gotten all of them despite playing almost every day since 2016. This is one of those achievements that just happens when it happens.
Some trophies do seem to be more common than others.

When there's a reward attached to it, it shouldn't be one that just "happens when it happens". There really is no reason the trophies should be so rare that people who've been playing for years and have thousands of hours still have dozens of them that haven't dropped a single time.

Vaoh

Some good news on this.

With account-wide achievements next patch, your progress between characters will be added together. For example, if one character has all Daedra-type monster trophies except for Everfrost, but you have another character who found Everfrost, then you’ll get the achievement.

Mythgard1967

Reading through this thread now has me mumbling under my breath about Hand of Glory......I have spent so much time farming for that one trophy with zero luck

emilyhyoyeon

I grinded the trophies that I needed out last year since I like collecting dyes. Each trophy took me on average an hour or so, and I was missing most of them.
I would trade someone my trophy completion for their PVP rank completion, since those are the dyes I don't think I'll ever manage to get. I'd do the monster trophies over 3 more times instead of grind 64m AP or whatever the amount is.

Necrotech_Master

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I grinded the trophies that I needed out last year since I like collecting dyes. Each trophy took me on average an hour or so, and I was missing most of them.
I would trade someone my trophy completion for their PVP rank completion, since those are the dyes I don't think I'll ever manage to get. I'd do the monster trophies over 3 more times instead of grind 64m AP or whatever the amount is.

i think the dye that most people want from pvp is the legate black, which i think is rank 39 (still takes a long time to get there)

61 mil AP is grand overlord (i dont remember if a dye comes with that one), but the scaling to get there really needs to get looked at, rank 34 is only like 25% of the total AP required to get there (2/3 finished with ranks, but only 1/4 of the needed AP)

Rezdayn

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I grinded the trophies that I needed out last year since I like collecting dyes. Each trophy took me on average an hour or so, and I was missing most of them.
I would trade someone my trophy completion for their PVP rank completion, since those are the dyes I don't think I'll ever manage to get. I'd do the monster trophies over 3 more times instead of grind 64m AP or whatever the amount is.

i think the dye that most people want from pvp is the legate black, which i think is rank 39 (still takes a long time to get there)

61 mil AP is grand overlord (i dont remember if a dye comes with that one), but the scaling to get there really needs to get looked at, rank 34 is only like 25% of the total AP required to get there (2/3 finished with ranks, but only 1/4 of the needed AP)

I have rank 50 and it gives a nice dye.
Still think common dyes should be common and much easier to get.
Unrelated to PvP ranks.