Curated Drop (help needed or its a bug)

ZeroDPS

Right now I'm missing only lightning and flame staffs from Ebon set, just did Crypt of Hearts 1 and did not get any of those. Is this okay? need help here

ZeroDPS

@ZOS_Kevin any clarification?

Fennwitty

Did you get some other item from one of the other sets in that dungeon?

redspecter23

Are you missing any other items from other sets in that dungeon? If you're only missing those two weapons, the end boss should drop one of them for you. What items did you get from the end boss instead?

To my knowledge, Crypt of Hearts curation is working as intended now and I'm not aware of any bugs for curation specific to that dungeon at the moment.

Did you randomly pull a weapon from a chest or mob earlier, but not bind it right away? It could lead to getting a duplicate from the end boss if it wasn't already bound, but in your inventory.

There are some reasons this could occur that aren't necessarily bugs. More information would be needed.

furiouslog

I believe that it's not a guarantee that you get the missing piece, just a much higher probability - you might need to run a few more times to confirm that it's bugged.

redspecter23

furiouslog wrote: »

I believe that it's not a guarantee that you get the missing piece, just a much higher probability - you might need to run a few more times to confirm that it's bugged.

The intention is that it's guaranteed and that's my experience in most situations. There was a bug in dungeons that prevented curation when named drops happened at the same time. This is possibly still an issue but not intended. There is also some content such as Craglorn trials that don't curate in the expected way, leading to duplicates.

furiouslog

redspecter23 wrote: »

furiouslog wrote: »

I believe that it's not a guarantee that you get the missing piece, just a much higher probability - you might need to run a few more times to confirm that it's bugged.

The intention is that it's guaranteed and that's my experience in most situations. There was a bug in dungeons that prevented curation when named drops happened at the same time. This is possibly still an issue but not intended. There is also some content such as Craglorn trials that don't curate in the expected way, leading to duplicates.

Well, I think that's unclear, based on the patch notes:

Curated Item Set Drops
Bosses and reward chests from arenas and incursions will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections!
Most bosses in the game, along with reward chests from arenas and incursions, will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections. These sources will only drop the set items that they can normally drop; the ways to acquire a particular item are unchanged, but it should be much easier to find items that you have not yet unlocked.
Set items looted from treasure chests, containers, or from non-boss monsters are generally not curated in this manner.

They inserted the word "preferentially", from which I infer uncertainty. Also the article discussion does not convey certainty:

With Update 32, in most cases, when an item set drops from a monster, the system will try to give you something that you don’t already own. This change greatly reduces the randomness of your rewards, with each subsequent drop further reducing the potential variation until you’ve collected every piece within a set.

They say the system will "try", they don't say that it will.

Community testing seems to conclude that it's a named loot issue when it does not seem to work, so I'm cool with that, all I'm saying is that the language used to describe the system does not appear to guarantee anything, and I've never seen a ZOS response that confirms that one way or the other.

b101uk

public dungeons the curation system works fine with extremely high probability from bosses .

4 man dungeons like Crypt of Hearts etc, its the total opposite, have lost count of the amount of times I have had nothing but duplicates with nothing new, some times even getting 3 to 5 of the same duplicate item just with differing trait

jaws343

furiouslog wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

furiouslog wrote: »

I believe that it's not a guarantee that you get the missing piece, just a much higher probability - you might need to run a few more times to confirm that it's bugged.

The intention is that it's guaranteed and that's my experience in most situations. There was a bug in dungeons that prevented curation when named drops happened at the same time. This is possibly still an issue but not intended. There is also some content such as Craglorn trials that don't curate in the expected way, leading to duplicates.

Well, I think that's unclear, based on the patch notes:

Curated Item Set Drops
Bosses and reward chests from arenas and incursions will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections!
Most bosses in the game, along with reward chests from arenas and incursions, will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections. These sources will only drop the set items that they can normally drop; the ways to acquire a particular item are unchanged, but it should be much easier to find items that you have not yet unlocked.
Set items looted from treasure chests, containers, or from non-boss monsters are generally not curated in this manner.

They inserted the word "preferentially", from which I infer uncertainty. Also the article discussion does not convey certainty:

With Update 32, in most cases, when an item set drops from a monster, the system will try to give you something that you don’t already own. This change greatly reduces the randomness of your rewards, with each subsequent drop further reducing the potential variation until you’ve collected every piece within a set.

They say the system will "try", they don't say that it will.

Community testing seems to conclude that it's a named loot issue when it does not seem to work, so I'm cool with that, all I'm saying is that the language used to describe the system does not appear to guarantee anything, and I've never seen a ZOS response that confirms that one way or the other.

It is definitely a guarantee. This, might not be a guarantee notion needs to be laid to rest already, it's been proven false for months. They even fixed the named drop bug and it drops both the named and curated piece now.

Likely, the OP still has other weapons missing from sets that aren't Ebon in that dungeon. So those sets are still dropping pieces instead of Ebon. Which is intended. The missing pieces that drop are still RnG

Thalmor-Nordmaster

Does this apply to Vma as well ?

Zephiran23

Dungeons normally have 3 sets that can drop. Have you completed the other 2 sets - specifically the weapons and jewelry you can obtain from there? If not the other sets will be in the list of possible loot on the final boss.

ZeroDPS

Fennwitty wrote: »

Did you get some other item from one of the other sets in that dungeon?

@Fennwitty
yes I got random drop from droppable sets

@redspecter23 I have an addon that shows if im getting new item from missing sets, so I got what I have already know

ZeroDPS

will try again and update here

ZeroDPS

so I have done another time vCoH 1 and got drop... maybe that was a bug?