unfathomable darkness vs pillar of nirn dungeons

francesinhalover

unfathomable darkness
penetration
4 birds do 20k in 12 seconds
3sec wait time per proc re-activation
Birds attack adds instead of boss

pillar of nirn
2.5 aoe
21k in 10 sec
1sec wait time before re-activations
Gets buffed by thaumaturge (dot cp)
Has anticlimatic stam stat.

I have 5 medium 2light 2600 pen.

Necrotech_Master

ive tried to use pillar of nirn several times and stopped using it because its very underwhelming to me

ive also had problems with the proc actually hitting things sometimes because it is a very small delayed hit aoe (so its not good for dealing with large mobs either), and if it misses the target, thats 10 solid sec of it doing absolutely nothing

ive never actually tried using unfathomable darkness but that is definitely more of a single target set than an aoe set

one stam set i enjoy focused on dot is unleashed terror, its very easy to apply, cooldown is per target, pretty good dot + reapplies hemorrhaging status with each tick (more dot, and if applicable minor mangle for -10% max hp debuff)

edit to add: a DoT centric build im using right now is unleashed terror + deadly + 2h maelstrom front bar and 2h vateshran back bar, vateshran back bar adds the buff to momentum to give me up to 300 more dmg, 2h maelstrom front bar + unleashed is applied when i use stampede (in an aoe too mind you) and deadly is boosting all the DoTs (and since its a stamplar also boosting jabs)

Stx

Not saying you're numbers are inaccurate but the last time I did a comparison between these two sets, pillar of nirn came out WAY ahead in dps and it's aoe on top of that.

Now that proc sets can crit, pillar of nirn is more powerful than it ever has been, and is only barely less powerful than the almighty relequens.

Everest_Lionheart

PON is a better set for trials mobs than dungeon mobs but if you aren’t speed running PON works well enough in vet dungeons. The trick is to front bar it, wait until the tank collects several adds and then swap to you front, there will be a delay before the proc hits but it will likely finish off anything inside it’s radius.

How I use it on my warden is to lead in with shalks (front bar) barswap to backbar then stampede, barbed trap, winters revenge and then barswap again into 3x carve (I run double 2H) and that usually kills whatever mob is there before I even get my growing swarm and birds out.

francesinhalover

Stx wrote: »

Not saying you're numbers are inaccurate but the last time I did a comparison between these two sets, pillar of nirn came out WAY ahead in dps and it's aoe on top of that.

Now that proc sets can crit, pillar of nirn is more powerful than it ever has been, and is only barely less powerful than the almighty relequens.

You think there will be nerfs .. i did some bad maths, but pillar is like 120 000 dmg in one min and unfath 80 000 ignoring unfa 1400 pen and crit stat (crit>wep dmg)
Plus thaumaturge can buff pillar i guess