dungeon finder picks the same dungeon 3x in a row

CoronHR

i log in on 1 char, queue for rnd, lair of maarselok.

2nd char, rnd, lair of maarselok.

3rd char, rnd, lair of maarselok.

is this some sort of fluke? or a bug? or a new feature? the 3rd time i just couldn't and i left. this was on the NA server. @ZOS_GinaBruno

Necrotech_Master

1 big question: is lair of maarselok one of todays pledges?

if you solo queue, you get plugged into any group in the queue including ones which may be queuing for a dungeon directly to complete the pledge

bmnoble

Dungeon finder fills in groups using the select dungeon option.

Did you check to see if you had the same group member each time you ported into the dungeon? Might be someone who really wants to run it but keeps having their group abandon the run.

That or it might have been a pledge.

Drdeath20

Tank always gets to play their dungeon of choice.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

DK is pumping out a lot of DPS this patch, guessing more than average number of people farming Z'ens.

LOM does contain at least one set that can be considered Meta, so those dungeons do come up more often. I used to get Arx all the time in randoms when everyone and their mom was farming medusa.

Or it could be some weird RNG.

CoronHR

lair of maarselok isn't a pledge. the players were different each time. i've noticed on other occasions that dungeons repeat themselves a bit too often, but 3x in a row...never had that happen. there are so many dungeons, so it's like statistically insane that this would happen

spartaxoxo

The dungeon finder random is not entirely random. It first tries to fill you with someone who needs a dungeon and then just picks a random one if nobody needs one at that moment. Most likely someone in your group was farming LOM. It has popular gear.

sajackson

The "Random" in Random Normal or Random Veteran dungeon simply means you didn't specify which one you wanted. Underneath all it's doing is maintaining a queue of the 3 different role types and trying to find the fastest way to make a dungeon group based on matching players who've selected "Random" and those who've specified one or more specific dungeons.

However, from a mathematical point of view the following numerical sequence can be considered "Random".

133333950

The randomness doesn't necessarily mean every number will be different, it's more to do with whether or not you can predict what the next number in the sequence is based on previous numbers (i.e. looking for patterns). Essentially if you can predict the next number in the sequence it is no longer random, however if you can't it is random (from your perspective).

The key points:

1. Randomness is not a guarantee that each item in the sequence will not re-occur.
2. If you can predict the next item in the sequence it is not random.
3. If you can't predict the next item in the sequence it is random.
4. Because 2 & 3, to some extent, depend on the intellectual factors present in the observer, it should be apparent that randomness is actually a subjective phenomenon (so something that appears random to one person may not appear random to another).

Ilumia

I've got an awful lot of ruins of mazzatun, and lair of maarselok lately. And I'm not really that fond of getting one of those every other time I rnd. It is probably for the reason @Oreyn_Bearclaw pointed out though.
It used to be a disproportionate amount of arx rnds, which I was grateful for as it was so fast

aaisoaho

As others have said, random dungeon finder fills the groups of specific dungeon queue. This means you're more likely to end up in a dungeon that...
-... Has a highly sought after gear (LoM: Azureblight and Z'en)
-... Is a pledge
-... Contains a lead (RoM: Kilt lead)
-... Is fast and easy if there's a dungeon endeavor or an event requiring dungeon completions

CoronHR

this all makes sense. and sounds like a fix is unlikely, or impossible. thanks for all the input

Everest_Lionheart

I’ve had this happen to me several times but also a other weird thing where a specific toon will get the same random dungeon 3 days in a row. Most of them I don’t mind running over and over but a few of them are about 5-10 minutes too long like Maarselok.

I think they have toned back the DLC dungeon length these past couple releases and I am thankful for that. Extra side bosses are there for the people that want them though I don’t like the idea of needing 4 people to access them. Red petal bastion was nice in that it took less but I would like a solo challenge for those days where I can’t play with anyone.

perfiction

That's why I stopped doing RNDs on my tank toon - almost every RND turned out to be LoM. I already have my Z'en gear and Maarselok mask style page so I have no reason to go back to that long and boring dungeon.