Question about "Offline status"

davidtk

Hi, I want to ask about appear offline mode.
I really don't remember before several updates if "Offline" status makes you appear offline for guild / friends without updating your CP / char level in friend list / guild roster or if it was always noticeable?
I used sometimes offline mode for doing quest/daily crafts etc. But last week friend noticed changes of my CP in his friendlist and wrote it to me on discord why i playing in off. I thought that this status makes you invisible for all without any noticeable things not only preventing to whisper you. It was always same or before some guild roster bug what was here before it worked like you are not in the game? As i said i thought that it worked that noboday can see you char level and CP changes and if someone try to whisper you, it will get "Account not found" error but now you dont get any error and everybody can see this changes.

It is only question so no i dont want to leavy my guilds and delete all friends from friend list :P
@ZOS_Kevin hi can you please give me more info about offline status? Thank you

Amottica

You appear offline to everyone. iirc, you can whisper to others but they cannot whisper to you. I am not surprised that our level would update since it would not be common for someone to keep an eye on a player's level.

davidtk

Amottica wrote: »

I am not surprised that our level would update since it would not be common for someone to keep an eye on a player's level.

Exactly, tbh i don't care if anyone playing in off because i playing in off too. So i don't much understand why it is bothering for some ppl when someone is in offline. When i will want to go to on i will switch it to on ...
I playing with my wife in off to be "alone" and when we want to play with others we go to on and talk... But after some experiences with our friends i wanted to ask ...

Troodon80

davidtk wrote: »

As i said i thought that it worked that noboday can see you char level and CP changes and if someone try to whisper you, it will get "Account not found" error but now you dont get any error and everybody can see this changes.

This has actually always been the case. If someone is genuinely offline, you will get "Account not found" but if they are in offline mode it won't show any error. It has been like that since 2016 that I know of. The updating of the level/CP is new, though. I've admittedly not paid enough attention to that. I would assume that came in at the same time as CP 2.0.

In terms of why people might care, most people I know who use offline mode do so to avoid people. Usually specific people. Instead of dealing with the person in an adult/mature way, they try to avoid them by being offline. Which only leads to distrust, conspiracy theories, and general drama among friend-groups. A number of MMOs that I have history with don't even have an offline mode specifically because "it fosters an anti-social attitude." Whether it does or not is largely irrelevant, that's their reasoning.

It doesn't have to be one specific person, either. I use it personally, though only occasionally, when I have something I want to get done and don't want to be disturbed. That's what Do Not Disturb/Busy should do and... does not. Offline mode is basically Do Not Disturb with strict settings (though people can still invite you to a group by using /invite @name).

Another reason is that some guilds want to promote an active environment, be they social guilds or trading guilds, and state that X days offline will result in a kick. Their guild, their rules, nothing to debate.

Regardless of the reasons, I don't see an issue in using it and if people care that much then it's probably an issue on their end.

davidtk

Troodon80 wrote: »

davidtk wrote: »

As i said i thought that it worked that noboday can see you char level and CP changes and if someone try to whisper you, it will get "Account not found" error but now you dont get any error and everybody can see this changes.

This has actually always been the case. If someone is genuinely offline, you will get "Account not found" but if they are in offline mode it won't show any error. It has been like that since 2016 that I know of. The updating of the level/CP is new, though. I've admittedly not paid enough attention to that. I would assume that came in at the same time as CP 2.0.

Thank you for explanation. I thought that no error is new too
I never paid attention to level/change because i totaly understand when someone want be offline. So if it is new i dont know.

Troodon80 wrote: »

It doesn't have to be one specific person, either. I use it personally, though only occasionally, when I have something I want to get done and don't want to be disturbed. That's what Do Not Disturb/Busy should do and... does not. Offline mode is basically Do Not Disturb with strict settings (though people can still invite you to a group by using /invite @name).

Another reason is that some guilds want to promote an active environment, be they social guilds or trading guilds, and state that X days offline will result in a kick. Their guild, their rules, nothing to debate.

Regardless of the reasons, I don't see an issue in using it and if people care that much then it's probably an issue on their end.

Yes I agree, we using it for do some quick things without any explanation to some ppl what we doing, why we doing etc. Or if I want to clear zone with zone quest i want it to do in my way.
And ofc we going to on after it because then we have time for group things and ofc because of guilds too

Thank you

Danikat

It seems a bit unfair that you need to play in offline mode when you don't want to play with specific people. Couldn't you just tell them you're only online for a bit to do some quick things, or you want to play alone for now? Are they really so demanding of your time that they expect you to play with them any time you're online?

Maybe it's because I've never had a specific group I always play with but no one seems to mind if I'm online and don't play with them. Sometimes I'll get a whisper from someone asking if I want to join for whatever they're doing but if I can't I just say I won't have time/I'm in the middle of something or whatever and they leave me to it.

davidtk

But my question was not about if is it fair or not.
There is function, there are statuses. So i have full rights to use it as i want whatever reason i have. If i will want avoid specific ppl i will leave guild / delete person from friendlist.

Danikat wrote: »

It seems a bit unfair that you need to play in offline mode when you don't want to play with specific people. Couldn't you just tell them you're only online for a bit to do some quick things, or you want to play alone for now? Are they really so demanding of your time that they expect you to play with them any time you're online?

How to say, some act like this way or it seems to be like that. Maybe if you will meet some like this then you will change opinion, who knows.

Danikat wrote: »

Maybe it's because I've never had a specific group I always play with but no one seems to mind if I'm online and don't play with them. Sometimes I'll get a whisper from someone asking if I want to join for whatever they're doing but if I can't I just say I won't have time/I'm in the middle of something or whatever and they leave me to it.

It is like in real life, when i don't want to talk with anyone i will just turn off my phone (and when will I want i will turn it on and anwer on your missed call/message) or in my job i just will not talk with coworkers. And without any explanations. Just don't talk, thats it and about it is DnD or Offline mode.

Example: You will greet me, i will greet you. Then I tell you that i want play alone, you will start asking me why, how long, what i will want <- and for this is there Offline mode, as i said i don't want explain half an hour that i want to play alone, so i will turn on offline and play. Thats it. It is fair to delay someone who want to play while alone?
Yes the coin have two sides...

drsalvation

I still appear offline to others even tho I AM online (both my xbox profile and my in-game settings).
Is that a bug, or do they have some messed up settings?

Odovacar

Honestly IIRC (PS wise), appearing offline will show your CP displayed for the last time you were online but you also have to manually change to offline in the guild settings too or else you will show up just not through the platform whether it be XB or PS......although you shouldn't show up as online in your ESO tab for friends-only list search. I have a feeling this may have changed a bit too since the enhancement update.

I used to " appear offline" a lot but I would have to avoid Belkarth and Mourhold and other main hang out locations or else I was spotted by at least a few folks i knew and Cyrodiil was a big no no ! ...also, since many do or have done the same thing folks would randomly whisper and if you didn't show up as "player not found" they would know you were playing incognito, haha.

Most importantly, no disrespect to my buddies. Sometimes you just want to do random ESO-ish without feeling obligated to stay on or divert your intentions away from just escaping reality for a bit.

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