What if.....we get Akavir expansion?!

Vanos444

Akavir is a zone that's untouched by Todd and the ESO devs.
Image if, ESO. Starts out Akavir expansion! We can witness first hand the battle between the vampire snake ppl and the tiger ppl.
With that, when TES 6 or 7 get released, Todd can use the lore build up from ESO to his test game.

Now this is my idea....below,
In this expansion. We can, choose the faction we support. The snow demon faction, Vampire snake faction, The monkey faction and the tiger faction.
Each faction, tells its own story of its own....
Like the vampire snake faction, it's interest is domination. Here, we can do alot of evil in this faction...

Also, we get choose 4 new races. Maybe a new class...

Einher2137

Akavir should be left for new major Elder Scrolls Game, if not VI then for VII.

adriant1978

Has anyone actually read the lore books on Akavir?

I seriously doubt we'll ever get either an expansion to this game or a new single player game for that matter where almost all the characters need to be either a vampire snake, a talking monkey, a tiger-dragon, or a snow demon.

It's way too alien and makes for great background lore and legend but a poor game setting, IMO.

Danikat

If they add Akavir into the game I wouldn't want it to be just 1 expansion, or even 1 'year long story'.

All the maps showing it are fan-made, but from the official lore we know Akavir is supposed to be huge, at least the same size as Tamriel. Trying to cram it all into one map and one storyline wouldn't do it justice, it would be disappointing.

I'd much rather have an expansion that focuses on one small part of Akavir and does a good job of showing it. Bear in mind the developers would need to make a lot of new assets, including all new character models because while there might be some humans in Akavir there's no elves, orcs, khajiit or argonians and the races which are there are supposed to be distinctly different. They couldn't even make all the khajiit furstocks for Elseweyr, so I think expecting them to make multiple different races for 1 expansion is too much and we'd end up with re-used argonians and khajiit and humans with some extra bits tacked on.

That's not a criticism of ZOS by the way, I don't think it would be reasonable for any game studio to do the work required to make Akavir well within a year.

That would also leave room to expand into the rest of the continent across subsequent releases. They're going to run out of space in Tamriel sooner or later and while Oblivion offers literally infinite possibilities it would make sense to explore the rest of Nirn as well and rushing through the biggest known continent besides Tamriel is a great way to waste all that potential and again end up stuck running out of space.

TheImperfect

I would love to see it, but properly done.

Fennwitty

adriant1978 wrote: »

Has anyone actually read the lore books on Akavir?

I seriously doubt we'll ever get either an expansion to this game or a new single player game for that matter where almost all the characters need to be either a vampire snake, a talking monkey, a tiger-dragon, or a snow demon.

It's way too alien and makes for great background lore and legend but a poor game setting, IMO.

This one is confused: Are the races you describe not the Argonians, Bosmer, sleek Khajiit and Nords?

_Zathras_

adriant1978 wrote: »

Has anyone actually read the lore books on Akavir?

I seriously doubt we'll ever get either an expansion to this game or a new single player game for that matter where almost all the characters need to be either a vampire snake, a talking monkey, a tiger-dragon, or a snow demon.

It's way too alien and makes for great background lore and legend but a poor game setting, IMO.

I dunno. I played through Elsweyr and talked to a lot of mouthy kitties.

So I'd say they've already started to pave that road of a precedent.

Vanos444 wrote: »

Also, we get choose 4 new races.

..and I'm all for playing a raging monkey race.

Seraphayel

We don’t get an Akavir expansion. The next Chapter takes us to High Isle. There are two lore books in Deadlands referencing this island, there’s the leak / datamine with the SYS/HI abbreviations and then we have a leak / datamine that already spoiled the setting for the Chapter, the trial and both Q1 dungeons.

Araneae6537

adriant1978 wrote: »

Has anyone actually read the lore books on Akavir?

I seriously doubt we'll ever get either an expansion to this game or a new single player game for that matter where almost all the characters need to be either a vampire snake, a talking monkey, a tiger-dragon, or a snow demon.

It's way too alien and makes for great background lore and legend but a poor game setting, IMO.

“Too alien”? I love a unique setting well done! That’s part of why I loved TES III while the sequels were relatively meh IMHO. And playing as a tiger-dragon or snow demon sounds great to me!

I’m certain the next expansion won’t be any part of Akavir as we’re sailing the other way but I wouldn’t be opposed to it in the future, although as has also been pointed out, it does seem like it would be a crazy amount of work!

rexagamemnon

Hope we get to go there

Vindold

I hope that we don't and tbh I don't even want a new TES: Akavir. Small portion of it, sure, okay, but not whole new TES game or an ESO chapter. To say the least, I'm not a fan of tropical landscapes and desserts.

colossalvoids

I seriously wish some stuff would be just a myth and nothing more really, can't say I have enough faith in both Beth and Zeni nowadays to represent anything at this point.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Einher2137 wrote: »

Akavir should be left for new major Elder Scrolls Game, if not VI then for VII.

These "Major" elder scrolls games you speak of barley have 10% of the content that ESO does, ESO is the most major TES game ever made and is the TES game where we can go to places we only dream about going to in the single player games, why should Akavir be any exception?

_Zathras_

Vindold wrote: »

I'm not a fan of tropical landscapes and desserts.

I do have a soft spot for a nice apple crisp.

But in ESO, I guess I'd settle for a sweet roll.

SidraWillowsky

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

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Einher2137 wrote: »

Akavir should be left for new major Elder Scrolls Game, if not VI then for VII.

These "Major" elder scrolls games you speak of barley have 10% of the content that ESO does, ESO is the most major TES game ever made and is the TES game where we can go to places we only dream about going to in the single player games, why should Akavir be any exception?

It's still an MMO is the thing. There's no way to properly capture what I imagine the bleak, alien world of Akavir to be like in a game that's fundamentally designed to be a multi-player game.

Imagine if ESO's Vvardenfell was the first time we saw it. The sense of being totally on your own in a brutal, unfamiliar land that you feel in TES III just isn't possible in ESO. Or Blackreach-- ESO's Blackreach doesn't some close to how spectacular, yet lonely and forlorn, Blackreach is in Skyrim.

There's just no way that ESO would be able to adequately capture what I think that Akavir is supposed to feel. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, but an MMO is not the place to introduce such major places.

atherusmora

I would love to go to Akavir. I actually really like the idea OP has. I am not keen on new classes or playable races. World Skill lines for the win! Would love an Akavir “expansion” that is not a year long event, but a continuation of the Main story. I am content with the current Tamriel map despite the glaring inconsistencies to lore. My head canon makes short work of these.

Murkmire is also very alien, and ZOS did a very good job with giving us something that really captured that. The addition of Fargrave gives me even more confidence that something like this on a continental scale could be done in the future. I really like the idea of recycling the Factions to match Akaviri lore too.

atherusmora

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

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TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Einher2137 wrote: »

Akavir should be left for new major Elder Scrolls Game, if not VI then for VII.

These "Major" elder scrolls games you speak of barley have 10% of the content that ESO does, ESO is the most major TES game ever made and is the TES game where we can go to places we only dream about going to in the single player games, why should Akavir be any exception?

It's still an MMO is the thing. There's no way to properly capture what I imagine the bleak, alien world of Akavir to be like in a game that's fundamentally designed to be a multi-player game.

Imagine if ESO's Vvardenfell was the first time we saw it. The sense of being totally on your own in a brutal, unfamiliar land that you feel in TES III just isn't possible in ESO. Or Blackreach-- ESO's Blackreach doesn't some close to how spectacular, yet lonely and forlorn, Blackreach is in Skyrim.

There's just no way that ESO would be able to adequately capture what I think that Akavir is supposed to feel. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, but an MMO is not the place to introduce such major places.

If my memory serves me correctly, it would be impossible for a Tamerielian to successfully reach Akavir alone. It would be weird to make a single player game around that. The only “successful” excursions in lore required whole fleets, and even then the coastal settlements that were established were eventually wiped out by the locals. This seems like a more ideal setting for an MMO. Maybe a Craglorn-esque Akavir. Mobs would be tougher and larger. More difficult delves and dungeons. Overland bosses wondering and stationary, that require groups of players to vanquish. They could model dailies after the craglorn dailies. The fact that we know so little about Akavir makes it the perfect next step if they ever wanted to take us to another continent.

_Zathras_

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

There's no way to properly capture what I imagine..

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

The sense of being totally on your own in a brutal, unfamiliar land that you feel in TES III just isn't possible in ESO. Or Blackreach-- ESO's Blackreach doesn't some close to how spectacular, yet lonely and forlorn, Blackreach is in Skyrim.

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

There's just no way that ESO would be able to adequately capture what I think that Akavir is supposed to feel. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, but an MMO is not the place to introduce such major places.

But by your own words, ESO hasn't captured anything close to what the single player games has produced.

Which, I suppose, is the pitfall of translating one thing into another. Like a novel into a movie. Or, a single player game into a MMO.

I just take ESO for what it is. If I want something different, I know where to get it.

Chaos2088

Danikat wrote: »

If they add Akavir into the game I wouldn't want it to be just 1 expansion, or even 1 'year long story'.

All the maps showing it are fan-made, but from the official lore we know Akavir is supposed to be huge, at least the same size as Tamriel. Trying to cram it all into one map and one storyline wouldn't do it justice, it would be disappointing.

I'd much rather have an expansion that focuses on one small part of Akavir and does a good job of showing it. Bear in mind the developers would need to make a lot of new assets, including all new character models because while there might be some humans in Akavir there's no elves, orcs, khajiit or argonians and the races which are there are supposed to be distinctly different. They couldn't even make all the khajiit furstocks for Elseweyr, so I think expecting them to make multiple different races for 1 expansion is too much and we'd end up with re-used argonians and khajiit and humans with some extra bits tacked on.

That's not a criticism of ZOS by the way, I don't think it would be reasonable for any game studio to do the work required to make Akavir well within a year.

That would also leave room to expand into the rest of the continent across subsequent releases. They're going to run out of space in Tamriel sooner or later and while Oblivion offers literally infinite possibilities it would make sense to explore the rest of Nirn as well and rushing through the biggest known continent besides Tamriel is a great way to waste all that potential and again end up stuck running out of space.

Could not agree more.

Malthorne

ZOS does not have the time, resources or tech to properly execute Akavir on the grand scale that if deserves.

LaerothKeykalyn

When asked about the ESO roadmap and whether the studio had plans for what to do once it had covered all of Tamriel in future Chapters, Rich Lambert replied: “One of the beauties of The Elder Scrolls universe is it’s not just tied to Tamriel. Tamriel is the giant main continent. There are other continents [and] there are also the infinite worlds of Oblivion that you can go and explore as well.”
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chapters

Kalle_Demos

Elfdominion4 wrote: »

When asked about the ESO roadmap and whether the studio had plans for what to do once it had covered all of Tamriel in future Chapters, Rich Lambert replied: “One of the beauties of The Elder Scrolls universe is it’s not just tied to Tamriel. Tamriel is the giant main continent. There are other continents [and] there are also the infinite worlds of Oblivion that you can go and explore as well.”
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Chapters

ESO may WANT to go to Akavir but they simply wouldn't be able to do it justice. They also WANTED to bring back the Dwemer but Bethesda stopped them with good reason. Akavir should be kept away from Zos. For good reason. I don't think Akavir should be considered until all the provinces in Tamriel get the same in-depth single player RPG treatment that Morrowind, Cyrodiil and Skyrim have had. Let Tamriel's story be concluded AND THEN we can jump to another continent.

Now if there is an expansion focusing on the islands between Tamriel and Akavir, I could see that.

moleculardrugs

Einher2137 wrote: »

Akavir should be left for new major Elder Scrolls Game, if not VI then for VII.

We should get both! For ESO and for the Elder Scrolls series

Nisekev

It won't happen, and even if it does, you'll regret asking for it.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

I actually would prefer we dont go there like ever
Want is interesting about it is that we know near nothing about it. Visiting it would normalize it to become tamriel from oversee

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Just wait about 500 years and catch a ride with Uriel Septim 5th to Akavir.
Spoiler: Only one way tickets available.
Just my 2 drakes!
Huzzah!!

xclassgaming

No.