New content. Start your own business organization

Vindold

I thought about what content do I want to have in ESO...

The only real content we have is based around combat and I would love to see something different which other MMOs don't really have.

So, how about runing your own business which you can expand over all of Tamriel? legal or illegal business is up to you. Personaly, I want to run a skooma business ofcourse
Your business can become so much successful so that ppl will know about it and will be able to invest into it...well, except skooma business
Though illegal should be more profitable, at least at start, but have higher risks of losing your goods because of you know...Vvardenfell Drug Enforcement Administration or something else
Risks is higher the more 'popular' you become...you can even be attacked on the streets by DEA or some other criminal group

As for llegal business...anything...like relic hunting or alcohol\furnishing\armor\weapons production etc...develop business relationship with cities\countries, risks because of economy problems in countries\cities, you can be millionare today and a beggar tomorrow
risks of losing your goods during shipments, necessity in hiring guards for your shipment.
Such content shouldn't be handled as minigame. Half of it is UI based, like tracking your shipments, business relationship\network, hiring, production other half should be handled by yourself, making deals, picking up some stuff, tempting the Khajiit with your special skooma stuff or some Nordic Thane with your own Jack Daniels.

Shouldn't be timegated. Do it whole day if you want. Shouldn't be too casual, especially on higher levels, should be competitve on higher levels(?), really profitable(same level as auction profit) if everything is done right.

Such content is unique, but complex and I think most player base are insterested in combat content, more than economy, thus chances that it'll be implemented and implemented properly isn't that high, to say the least...but anyway I'm really curious what do you think? Do you want to run your own Skooma business?:D

francesinhalover

Would be cool if it was like assassins creed brotherhood

Vindold

Sounds interesting!

francesinhalover wrote: »

Would be cool if it was like assassins creed brotherhood

Not familiar with it, but I would love to have such content in game anyway, should be good for RP aspect of this game

TelvanniWizard

Sounds interesting!

I´ll do my own Great House with hookers, and blackjack! You know what? Forget the Great House!

Parasaurolophus

Don't care

Ideas like this are doomed in eso. Eso is not a sandbox at all. Plus, something like this would inflate inflation even more.

phaneub17_ESO

Don't care

I just imagine FFXI and all the afk players filling the city streets with their shop bubble open.

Larcomar

Sounds like an interesting idea. But it also sounds like another game...

Looking at the other posts this am, we also seem to have too much money washing round the economy. It sounds like what we need is gold sinks not money makers.

Have you tried GTAV? It was quite fun building up a criminal empire. Start off with some missions, run a few heists, invest the profits in a chop shop, and before you know it you've got a lab chunning out coke, meth and counterfeit cash. You can hire other players to mule your drugs too, thank god. Turns out tweenies work for peanuts. Pretty soon you're sitting in an underground bunker firing an orbital super cannon at randos. It's got a definite muhahaha factor...

Sylvermynx

Don't care

Wouldn't be of any interest to me - while I'm not invested in combat, I also am not invested in "merchantry".

Arunei

This isn't a system ESO can handle. The game already struggles with guild trader checks, to the point where they throttled how many requests price check addons can make within a certain time frame. This game needs FEWER checks, not a whole slew of new ones that would likely tank performance more.

Performance aside, I doubt enough people would use something like this to justify how much work and development time would go into it. Something like this would be the premise of its own game entirely.

The closest thing to this I could see happening would be some sort of questline where you help a failing business and either influence them towards being legit or shady, and maybe at the end of it you get some sort of item or perna bonus on your character sheet that gives you better sell/buy prices from NPC vendors.

_Zathras_

Sounds interesting!

It does sound interesting. Definitely an idea with meat on its bones.

I'd argue that if they were to do a re-work of existing skill lines, like the Thieves Guild, they could incorporate this as part of a broader idea. Like the Mercantile System, to toss a name out there for what you are proposing.

There's nothing wrong with thinking outside of the box. Maybe aspects of this will be used at some point.

Vindold

Sounds interesting!

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

Ideas like this are doomed in eso. Eso is not a sandbox at all. Plus, something like this would inflate inflation even more.

Sure, today we got an inflation but such content require some time to make, year or so...it's about the idea, you like it or not, that's it.
Another thing is how such idea will be implemented, how big will be risks runing your business, how much money will it require to run and how much can you loose, how much time will it require to get to a decent income etc, it all can be done properly.
And it's possible to make such system a gold sink as well, it all depends how you implement such idea.

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I just imagine FFXI and all the afk players filling the city streets with their shop bubble open.

Yeah, that's horrible though I'm speaking about trading with NPC and if such idea is implemented it should have some fixed places of your main base\node and the rest is part of UI.

Arunei wrote: »

This isn't a system ESO can handle. The game already struggles with guild trader checks, to the point where they throttled how many requests price check addons can make within a certain time frame. This game needs FEWER checks, not a whole slew of new ones that would likely tank performance more.

Just to clarify.
I'm not proposing trading with real players. Such system does not require so much of checks.

Arunei wrote: »

Performance aside, I doubt enough people would use something like this to justify how much work and development time would go into it. Something like this would be the premise of its own game entirely.

BDO got barter system, ppl use it, but it's not implemented as ppl want it to be, not finished I say. Also it's all about profit. Many ppl like trading, they play in auction game. Again, depends on how you implement such idea.

hafgood

Don't care

I'd have preferred a third option of no but that isn't available.

So no, I don't think this would be a good idea at all, the game isn't built for it, this would require a radical overhaul of the game - and if they are doing that I'd far rather the money and time spent on it went to fixing Cyrodiil, and performance in general.

Also this game is geared towards the casual player, and this kind of content is not casual friendly

Amottica

Vindold wrote: »

The only real content we have is based around combat D

We have housing.

We can also become business people with crafting furniture or pilfering furniture plans and peddling those.

Tornaad

Sounds interesting!

I would love to see an expansion to the guild system and this could easily be it.

Necrotech_Master

Don't care

the way i see it is the game already kind of does this, its called guilds with the guild traders

the guild trader NPCs get the tag of the guild on them for the duration and are basically already the "set up shops" in the cities others have mentioned

the closest i could see getting added would be like some kind of collectible furnishing for a player house so you could have stuff set up for sale there (such as if you are doing a "yard sale" type of thing, you line up a bunch of furnishings as a display and then have the vending machine set up so if someone visiting is interested they could purchase either the displayed furnishing or a stack you placed there like a guild store)

the only problem with something like that is it would be limited to guilds and or people on your friend list unless you were shouting in zone for people to come look at your wares (which i think most people would get annoyed with)

Vindold

Sounds interesting!

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

the way i see it is the game already kind of does this, its called guilds with the guild traders

the guild trader NPCs get the tag of the guild on them for the duration and are basically already the "set up shops" in the cities others have mentioned

Yeah, but it's not even close to example of mine + as I've already said, idea is not about trading with ppl, but with cities, even countries, develop business relationships with them, run your own production...it's much more deep and complex content then an auction house + you can't run Skooma business within a trading guild

Odovacar

Sounds interesting!

well...this definitely sounds interesting!

colossalvoids

Don't care

Impossible to implement with players and absolutely pointless without them. I'm happy we have trading already in place, it's immersive enough if/when you're trying to.

MEBengalsFan2001

Sounds interesting!

Vindold wrote: »

I thought about what content do I want to have in ESO...

The only real content we have is based around combat and I would love to see something different which other MMOs don't really have.

So, how about runing your own business which you can expand over all of Tamriel? legal or illegal business is up to you. Personaly, I want to run a skooma business ofcourse
Your business can become so much successful so that ppl will know about it and will be able to invest into it...well, except skooma business
Though illegal should be more profitable, at least at start, but have higher risks of losing your goods because of you know...Vvardenfell Drug Enforcement Administration or something else
Risks is higher the more 'popular' you become...you can even be attacked on the streets by DEA or some other criminal group

As for llegal business...anything...like relic hunting or alcohol\furnishing\armor\weapons production etc...develop business relationship with cities\countries, risks because of economy problems in countries\cities, you can be millionare today and a beggar tomorrow
risks of losing your goods during shipments, necessity in hiring guards for your shipment.
Such content shouldn't be handled as minigame. Half of it is UI based, like tracking your shipments, business relationship\network, hiring, production other half should be handled by yourself, making deals, picking up some stuff, tempting the Khajiit with your special skooma stuff or some Nordic Thane with your own Jack Daniels.

Shouldn't be timegated. Do it whole day if you want. Shouldn't be too casual, especially on higher levels, should be competitve on higher levels(?), really profitable(same level as auction profit) if everything is done right.

Such content is unique, but complex and I think most player base are insterested in combat content, more than economy, thus chances that it'll be implemented and implemented properly isn't that high, to say the least...but anyway I'm really curious what do you think? Do you want to run your own Skooma business?:D

Other mmos have this. In fact this game has this, it is called crafting and selling your goods through a guild trader. As for Skooma, isn't that the same as SugarSkull but sold under the Sugarskull names because that's legal but Skooma is not.

Tornaad

Sounds interesting!

colossalvoids wrote: »

Impossible to implement with players and absolutely pointless without them. I'm happy we have training already in place, it's immersive enough if/when you're trying to.

If they wanted to keep it simple they could make a slightly more advanced version of the current hireling system and get it created that way.

Tandor

Don't care

I'm always sceptical about a poll which only gives the options of "Support me or show indifference". Where's the "No" option? That's the one I'd have voted for, but I took the "I don't care" to mean "I don't care for it" and voted accordingly. It's entirely the wrong game for such a concept.

TheImperfect

Not sure how it could work or be implemented but open to the idea if something functional and non economy ruining can be made of the idea.

Mandragora

Sounds interesting!

I think there could be another system similar to housing, which I could make as another goal to gather and build staff for in my own pacing and time, and it seems like something like trading could be that as it is a recurring theme here on forums.

Also I could make it into another roleplaying activity for some of my alts.

Nisekev

Don't care

You'll be able to do business (at least "investment" part) when ZOS decides to add NFTs into ESO.