Stamina class needs a new weapon "Fists"!!

Vanos444

As the title says, I hope the next expansion does allow stamina classes to use their fist for battle.
Fist weapons, will be a killer for stamplar and Stamsorc.

Vanos444

For fist,
Let's say, they use their bare hands to punch enemies into dust.
These weapons are a channel damage weapons.
They always crit, with penetration they do more damage.

HyekAr

All this

Idinuse

Fennwitty

ZoS has been teasing us with unarmed combat for years now.

Why else would my weapons repeatedly disappear underground every other patch?

jedtb16_ESO

Vanos444 wrote: »

As the title says, I hope the next expansion does allow stamina classes to use their fist for battle.
Fist weapons, will be a killer for stamplar and Stamsorc.

speaking as a stamplar i am not in favour of this idea.

you want to punch an enemy who has full heavy armour?

no thanks.

Castagere

Spears, please.

kamimark

Vanos444 wrote: »

As the title says, I hope the next expansion does allow stamina classes to use their fist for battle.
Fist weapons, will be a killer for stamplar and Stamsorc.

You can already remove your weapon and punch! Whatisname, "Bumnog" (how unfortunate) of the Daggers in Glenumbra gets by just fine.

And if you have a few skills, the loss of weapon damage isn't that critical. You can surely get thru overland and some normal content without weapons.

Jusey1

Spear, Crossbow, or One-Handed + fist type of style is what I wanna see.

Tenthirty2

Vanos444 wrote: »

As the title says, I hope the next expansion does allow stamina classes to use their fist for battle.
Fist weapons, will be a killer for stamplar and Stamsorc.

I'd use my iron fists of fury to punch a dragon in the nose *BOOP*

deejayvee

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

you want to punch an enemy who has full heavy armour?

no thanks.

Unarmed strike/monks going toe-to-toe with plate-armoured fighters has been staple in the genre for a long time, regardless of the realism (or lack thereof).

Personally, I would prefer a polearm weapon skill being added, but unarmed would be choice #2.

estelrandir

Fists would be nice. Crossbow would be better! Love all the other suggestions in here as well!

EmperorIl

I loathe fist weapons or fist as weapons in any MMO. Would rather have a new stam ranged option since we only get one.

atherusmora

Only if mag users are also given an unarmed skill line as well. I feel pigeon-holding mag users into one weapon type is one of the biggest missed opportunities for build diversity in the game. Stam users have blades, shields, hammers, axes, mauls, and swords. Mag just has resto/destro staff.

From an RP standpoint it makes no sense at all. Mages can conjure and cast Daedric/Aedric/blood/ nature and elemental magics with hands via class skills. Why would a mage need a staff if the most advance spells in the game are at his/her/their finger tips?

And why can’t I slap players with it, and no I don’t mean bash? If it’s a two handed weapon, I should be able to do some serious batting with this thing in addition to channeling magic through it.

WraithShadow13

Yes.

I would absolutely love it unarmed made an official place in the game, both for stam AND mag. More so, if they DID give unarmed some more love, they could easily make skill trees to match, like martial arts, brawler, etc. I would love this and i love that people are asking for more weapon types lately.

Rohamad_Ali

Yes yes fists or claws is good. I have dreamed of tavern brawling mode myself, no weapons. A great mini game perhaps or just as you've described. If ever it becomes then a mini pvp area in all taverns would be fun. Boxing stage in the back so peaceful milk drinkers stay safe.

Saxhleel

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Hand-to-Hand
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hand-to-hand
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Hand_to_Hand

They could just take some of the systems from previous games. Like enemies fall down many times and it also depletes the enemy's stamina.

I agree because I have Hand-to-Hand 100 in both Morrowind and Oblivion, and punching things has more attraction than using weapons in my opinion.

Vanos444

Saxhleel wrote: »

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Hand-to-Hand
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Hand-to-hand
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Hand_to_Hand

They could just take some of the systems from previous games. Like enemies fall down many times and it also depletes the enemy's stamina.

I agree because I have Hand-to-Hand 100 in both Morrowind and Oblivion, and punching things has more attraction than using weapons in my opinion.

In Skyrim, I played as a kajiit using his bare hands. For they have damage boost while using their fist 😁

I could kill most by 1 shoting them on novice mode.

MindOfTheSwarm

Stamina needs a ranged option. Also, Disease does not have representation in the weapon lines. If any Stam weapon gets added, it needs to be ranged and have at least most of its morphs have a disease option. Spears can go in 2 handed or dual wield passives. Crossbows can get passives in Bow line.

My vote is either Plague Staff or Throwing weapons of some kind.

As for OP on unarmed. Complicated due to sets. You could simply have Unarmed as a passive only line that gives extra bonuses to make up for the loss of 2 set pieces. However, claw type weapons could be an option, but again it would just be another melee line.

Stam needs range option, it’s Magicka that needs Melee. Magicka claws or hand chains could be cool.

Vanos444

Maybe stamina can have flying daggers like

atherusmora

Vanos444 wrote: »

Maybe stamina can have flying daggers like

Stam sorc has this already in Bound Armaments skills.

atherusmora

MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »

Stamina needs a ranged option. Also, Disease does not have representation in the weapon lines. If any Stam weapon gets added, it needs to be ranged and have at least most of its morphs have a disease option. Spears can go in 2 handed or dual wield passives. Crossbows can get passives in Bow line.

My vote is either Plague Staff or Throwing weapons of some kind.

As for OP on unarmed. Complicated due to sets. You could simply have Unarmed as a passive only line that gives extra bonuses to make up for the loss of 2 set pieces. However, claw type weapons could be an option, but again it would just be another melee line.

Stam needs range option, it’s Magicka that needs Melee. Magicka claws or hand chains could be cool.

Stam already has Bow for ranged. I don’t think stam really needs any more weapons tbh.

red_emu

What would the skill line be called for using fists? 😳😳😳😉

francesinhalover

Can the new skill line be

Base game fix/improvement/rework?
Instead of adding more gliches.

Lucozade85

I'd prefer to see more stam ranged abilities / weapons.

etchedpixels

red_emu wrote: »

What would the skill line be called for using fists? 😳😳😳😉

Presumably "two handed"

You can already punch and bash your way through overland. Or for that matter you can do overland entirely using skills and never light attacking 8)

With a group it's possible to do a lot of content with bare fists, and there are people who do things like naked (no gear, skills, weapons) group dolmen runs.

If you really like bare handed you've got werewolf as an option too, although the werewolf animation for bashing makes a bash build werewolf look like they've gone for a dance.

Kalle_Demos

atherusmora wrote: »

Only if mag users are also given an unarmed skill line as well. I feel pigeon-holding mag users into one weapon type is one of the biggest missed opportunities for build diversity in the game. Stam users have blades, shields, hammers, axes, mauls, and swords. Mag just has resto/destro staff.

From an RP standpoint it makes no sense at all. Mages can conjure and cast Daedric/Aedric/blood/ nature and elemental magics with hands via class skills. Why would a mage need a staff if the most advance spells in the game are at his/her/their finger tips?

And why can’t I slap players with it, and no I don’t mean bash? If it’s a two handed weapon, I should be able to do some serious batting with this thing in addition to channeling magic through it.

This. Unarmed martial skill line. Unarmed Magic skill line. Daedric armor/weapons skill line.

Vulkunne

Complete Agree

And Spears

francesinhalover

Passive if you are barehandes your punchs do 1000dmg lv1 1150 lv2 1300 lv3 dmg

Passive range increase

Passive heavy punchs have chance 15%\30% to stun enemy from behind

Passive heal when bellow 25%hp your punches regen 10%/20% of your max hp

Amottica

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Vanos444 wrote: »

As the title says, I hope the next expansion does allow stamina classes to use their fist for battle.
Fist weapons, will be a killer for stamplar and Stamsorc.

speaking as a stamplar i am not in favour of this idea.

you want to punch an enemy who has full heavy armour?

no thanks.

I had not thought of it this way but it makes sense. I cannot imagine who would go up to a raid boss and punch them.

Also, the range of fists would, should, be shorter than any other melee weapon which would be problematic.

Lysette

It wouldn't really change that much - fists have already a combat value as is - you can use your class skills, they are independent of the weapon you use. Most no weapon skills will be possible to use as well and a lot of them are combat related - fists have a base combat value which is not that much lower than white gear - so if you want to punch your way through Tamriel, there is no need for a new skill line - you can play like this as is already.