New Life Festival quests more fitting for Jester's Festival

SilverBride

Throwing mudballs... Dancing around town... Racing to light braziers... Nothing here seems like New Life to me.

I'll do what I need to get the house and fill up my tickets again, but that's it for me.

_Zathras_

SilverBride wrote: »

Throwing mudballs.

"Bosmer immigrants to Auridon introduced the locals of Skywatch to the Mud Ball Merriment, a game where balls of mud are thrown at everyone. Each year, the Bosmer also agree upon a specific target that they feel needs to be humbled the most."

SilverBride wrote: »

Dancing around town

"The Bretons also celebrate the New Life Festival. An example is that the Alcaire Castle, after recovering from a bloody war, developed a New Life Festival tradition called the Castle Charm Challenge where participants must entertain the castle's inhabitants with a daring performance. This celebration gave the survivors a chance to heal and laugh once more"

SilverBride wrote: »

Racing to light braziers.

"The Redguards of Bergama partake in the Signal Fire Sprint. A race to light several beacons around the city. This is to honor the sacrifice of an ancestor who saved Bergama from certain doom."

SilverBride wrote: »

Nothing here seems like New Life to me.

"The New Life Festival is a Tamriel-wide event that celebrates the birth of a new year, and celebrates the death of the old year.[1] In contrast to the Old Life Festival, New Life takes place at the beginning of Morning Star. It was originally the celebration of the sun god, Magnus, but over time it changed into a celebration of the gift of New Life, heralded by the sun.[2][3] The New Life Festival also marks the start of the Winter Solstice, when Magnus the Sun begins his return, and the days start to grow longer.[1] Almost all major races in Tamriel celebrate the New Life Festival in their own unique cultural way, and the celebrations themselves have been known to change over time. Many of the celebrations are symbolic of a historical event or have some form of deeper meaning. Celebrations include races, feasts, games and dancing."

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SeaGtGruff

I did all of the quests on the first day, but for the remaining days I pkan to do just one quest to get the tickets. I have all style pages that can drop from doing the charity writs, and all the runeboxes from past events, so all I need are the last two parts of the house, the last part of the pet for after I morph my existing one, the new cony pet, and the pages of the new style. If I were to buy all of those with tickets, I'll just be short one style page-- and I got one page on each server on the first day, so I'll be able to buy everything I need without grinding for reward boxes. I even got the cony on the first day on one server, so that's one more thing I won't need to buy on that server.

The quests might seem silly, but I always enjoy them. There are some I like more than others-- the Snow Bear Plunge is my personal favorite-- but it isn't that I mind doing any of them. It's more a case of wanting to work on other things in the game, like continuing to work on Cadwell's Gold on one server, and beginning the Deadlands quests on the other server. The nice thing about the event quests is that they're so simple and fun, so they don't really take that much time away from playing the game. But I'm already drowning in runeboxes from prior years, as well as style pages-- but more so the runeboxes, since those still don't stack like the style pages were made to do. I can't handle getting any more runeboxes until I get rid of all the ones left over from prior years.

SilverBride

A bunch of slapstick pranks and humor do not demonstrate the kind of "New Life" I would enjoy.

FluffWit

4(?) years of these quests is kinda soul destroying.

Really how hard would it be to make a new set of fetch quests annually?

SeaGtGruff

FluffWit wrote: »

4(?) years of these quests is kinda soul destroying.

Really how hard would it be to make a new set of fetch quests annually?

I wouldn't mind seeing a few new quests, but I'd hate to see the old ones get removed, because I think new players deserve the opportunity to experience them, too.

SilverBride

I'd like to see quests that are more positive and represent a new life for not just the character, but others. Such as "Give 100 gold to a beggar." Or "Leave a basket of food at [NPC's Name] house."

Those mean New Life to me way more than throwing mudballs at others.

Otherwise just rename the Festival to something like Festival of Merriment or something more fitting.

wolfie1.0.

FluffWit wrote: »

4(?) years of these quests is kinda soul destroying.

Really how hard would it be to make a new set of fetch quests annually?

How often does Zos change any repeatable daily quests?

JavaRen

Have you actually read the in game dialog and exposition on the festival quests? Or did you see mudballs and stop looking? If the background behind War Orphan or Castle Charm don't mean anything to you, well, uhm, yeah, you and I have very different priorities.

SilverBride

JavaRen wrote: »

Have you actually read the in game dialog and exposition on the festival quests? Or did you see mudballs and stop looking? If the background behind War Orphan or Castle Charm don't mean anything to you, well, uhm, yeah, you and I have very different priorities.

No, I did not look up the background behind War Orphan or Castle Charm because where does it direct the player to any of this information? All we are given is "Go talk to Breda" then handed these silly quests. But even if I had I still don't see slapstick pranks and humor as anything but slapstick pranks and humor.

I gave some examples of quests I would find much more appropriate for New Life.

AlnilamE

SilverBride wrote: »

I'd like to see quests that are more positive and represent a new life for not just the character, but others. Such as "Give 100 gold to a beggar." Or "Leave a basket of food at [NPC's Name] house."

Those mean New Life to me way more than throwing mudballs at others.

Otherwise just rename the Festival to something like Festival of Merriment or something more fitting.

The Altmer quest is giving money to orphans and the Argonian quest is giving people fish.

spartaxoxo

I think they are fairly festive quests personally. Dancing, games, etc seem pretty standard festival behavior. The only one that seems more like a prank are the mudballs, I would imagine the floral crowns from Jesters and that one would have been swapped. But hey, the idea of a game itself is also suited to a festival.

Anyway, you eat, drink, dance, and play games for New Life. And so that seems appropriate to me. They just do it in their own Tamriel way.

SilverBride

AlnilamE wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I'd like to see quests that are more positive and represent a new life for not just the character, but others. Such as "Give 100 gold to a beggar." Or "Leave a basket of food at [NPC's Name] house."

Those mean New Life to me way more than throwing mudballs at others.

Otherwise just rename the Festival to something like Festival of Merriment or something more fitting.

The Altmer quest is giving money to orphans and the Argonian quest is giving people fish.

I've only seen the mudball, race and dancing quests so far.

whitecrow

I can see mudballs being jesterish but the rest fit just fine. Breda explains them all, if you listen.

SilverBride

whitecrow wrote: »

I can see mudballs being jesterish but the rest fit just fine. Breda explains them all, if you listen.

These are my opinions.

spartaxoxo

AlnilamE wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I'd like to see quests that are more positive and represent a new life for not just the character, but others. Such as "Give 100 gold to a beggar." Or "Leave a basket of food at [NPC's Name] house."

Those mean New Life to me way more than throwing mudballs at others.

Otherwise just rename the Festival to something like Festival of Merriment or something more fitting.

The Altmer quest is giving money to orphans and the Argonian quest is giving people fish.

Yup. There's also the charity writs, which is supposed to be us donating stuff. So giving to others is definitely still part of the celebrations, just not the only part.

myskyrim26

Well, New Life is not Christmas or New Year. It is New Life, an imagined festival in an imagined world. How do you know what fits New Life and what does not? Only game developers know as they are creating this imagined world called ESO.

SilverBride

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Well, New Life is not Christmas or New Year. It is New Life, an imagined festival in an imagined world. How do you know what fits New Life and what does not? Only game developers know as they are creating this imagined world called ESO.

I know what I see as New Life and throwing mudballs isn't it.

spartaxoxo

SilverBride wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Well, New Life is not Christmas or New Year. It is New Life, an imagined festival in an imagined world. How do you know what fits New Life and what does not? Only game developers know as they are creating this imagined world called ESO.

I know what I see as New Life and throwing mudballs isn't it.

What do you see New Life meaning then? It might help understand your point if you explained what you view as the meaning of New Life.

Necrotech_Master

if you want something that might be more "respectful", i would recommend doing the "old life" festival quest, this was new i think last year and i personally have been doing it since it is a lot faster than the new life quests (the old life quest involves essentially paying respects to the dead)

the quest giver for this is right next to the main quest giver in the tent near the snow globe house, and still rewards the box + tickets (if its your first daily quest, otherwise just the box)

spartaxoxo

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

if you want something that might be more "respectful", i would recommend doing the "old life" festival quest, this was new i think last year and i personally have been doing it since it is a lot faster than the new life quests (the old life quest involves essentially paying respects to the dead)

the quest giver for this is right next to the main quest giver in the tent near the snow globe house, and still rewards the box + tickets (if its your first daily quest, otherwise just the box)

Another nice point in it's favor is that you get to always pick it. Breda is randomized so you can't choose which you do easily.

gamma71

Cyrodil needs some new life about now.

SilverBride

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

if you want something that might be more "respectful", i would recommend doing the "old life" festival quest, this was new i think last year and i personally have been doing it since it is a lot faster than the new life quests (the old life quest involves essentially paying respects to the dead)

My opinion isn't that I think the quests should be more "respectful"... just more appropriate for what the name of the event indicates.

I did do the quest you recommended and will do it daily until I get built back up to 12 tickets again after purchasing the house parts, because I find the others silly and tedious at best and not the least bit enjoyable. In future years, unless there is an item I am working toward, I will just skip the event all together.

whitecrow

It warms the heart to fill a belly, especially if it isn't your own.

AlnilamE

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think they are fairly festive quests personally. Dancing, games, etc seem pretty standard festival behavior. The only one that seems more like a prank are the mudballs, I would imagine the floral crowns from Jesters and that one would have been swapped. But hey, the idea of a game itself is also suited to a festival.

Anyway, you eat, drink, dance, and play games for New Life. And so that seems appropriate to me. They just do it in their own Tamriel way.

It's kind of funny that both the mudball and the cherry blossom quests have the objective of teaching Altmer to lighten up.

Necrotech_Master

SilverBride wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

if you want something that might be more "respectful", i would recommend doing the "old life" festival quest, this was new i think last year and i personally have been doing it since it is a lot faster than the new life quests (the old life quest involves essentially paying respects to the dead)

My opinion isn't that I think the quests should be more "respectful"... just more appropriate for what the name of the event indicates.

I did do the quest you recommended and will do it daily until I get built back up to 12 tickets again after purchasing the house parts, because I find the others silly and tedious at best and not the least bit enjoyable. In future years, unless there is an item I am working toward, I will just skip the event all together.

i mean more variety is always welcome, i mostly stopped doing the regular new life quests because i think this is like my 6th new life festival, and the quests are pretty much the same still (outside of the old life festival quest that was added last year)

_Zathras_

SilverBride wrote: »

My opinion isn't that I think the quests should be more "respectful"... just more appropriate for what the name of the event indicates.

I included a link to what New Life is, including lore explanations to the activities you are dismissing. If you'd take a minute, you might understand the various race's reasoning for what they are doing.

Saying, "I don't like this!" repeatedly is all fine and good, but you haven't looked at the lore to appreciate what it is you are complaining about. Also, as mentioned, Breda explains it as you go along, Coles Notes-style.

JavaRen

SilverBride wrote: »

JavaRen wrote: »

Have you actually read the in game dialog and exposition on the festival quests? Or did you see mudballs and stop looking? If the background behind War Orphan or Castle Charm don't mean anything to you, well, uhm, yeah, you and I have very different priorities.

No, I did not look up the background behind War Orphan or Castle Charm because where does it direct the player to any of this information? All we are given is "Go talk to Breda" then handed these silly quests. But even if I had I still don't see slapstick pranks and humor as anything but slapstick pranks and humor.

I gave some examples of quests I would find much more appropriate for New Life.

Okay, if you would like some free (and worth the price) advice on appreciating this event: Read Breda's dialog, read the dialog of any other NPCs the quest sends you to. Read Breda's dialog when you turn it in. Do this for a couple more quests. Don't just click through the conversation on one quest and give up on the whole (the mudballs are not a good example, no arguement).

SilverBride

_Zathras_ wrote: »

I included a link to what New Life is, including lore explanations to the activities you are dismissing. If you'd take a minute, you might understand the various race's reasoning for what they are doing.

Saying, "I don't like this!" repeatedly is all fine and good, but you haven't looked at the lore to appreciate what it is you are complaining about. Also, as mentioned, Breda explains it as you go along, Coles Notes-style.

JavaRen wrote: »

Okay, if you would like some free (and worth the price) advice on appreciating this event: Read Breda's dialog, read the dialog of any other NPCs the quest sends you to. Read Breda's dialog when you turn it in. Do this for a couple more quests. Don't just click through the conversation on one quest and give up on the whole (the mudballs are not a good example, no arguement).

I appreciate that you took the time to provide information and advice, but I am not interested in appreciating mudballs or dancing or racing.

I just think these activities seem out of place and more in line with the Jester's Festival.

spartaxoxo

AlnilamE wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I think they are fairly festive quests personally. Dancing, games, etc seem pretty standard festival behavior. The only one that seems more like a prank are the mudballs, I would imagine the floral crowns from Jesters and that one would have been swapped. But hey, the idea of a game itself is also suited to a festival.

Anyway, you eat, drink, dance, and play games for New Life. And so that seems appropriate to me. They just do it in their own Tamriel way.

It's kind of funny that both the mudball and the cherry blossom quests have the objective of teaching Altmer to lighten up.

What's weird about the New Life one is you go to a place where the random npc you pelt are lightening up. But I guess they're doing it "wrong" lol.

myskyrim26

SilverBride wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

Well, New Life is not Christmas or New Year. It is New Life, an imagined festival in an imagined world. How do you know what fits New Life and what does not? Only game developers know as they are creating this imagined world called ESO.

I know what I see as New Life and throwing mudballs isn't it.

Well... what about throwing furniture out of the window? It is a real tradition... Shooting with real guns into the sky? Also a real tradition... I know more, but they are too weird to write here. All these traditions don't seem to fit New Year Eve for me. Yet people do it - they celebrate New Year in their own way...