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Statistics on Crafting Material and Improvement Mats from Refinement

goatlyonesub17_ESO
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I recently completed a 10-day binge of harvesting crafting nodes on Stros M'kai. Where there is considerable competition from other harvesters, I may add.

Here's what I ended up with.

Rubedite Ore: 52357, 63.6% of the ores
Platinum Dust: 30025, 36.4% of the ores
Ancestor Silk: 3210
Rubedo Scraps: 2059, mostly from wolves
Rough Ruby Ash: 9314
Kuta Runestones: 45
And some unknown number of Beetle Scuttles.

While refining the rubedite ore, this is what I got.

Tempering Alloy: 56+66+62+63+56+12 = 315
Ratio ore/TA: 166.2

Grain Solvent: 97+77+84+70+74+20 = 422
Ratio ore/GS: 124.1

Dwarven Oil: 159+148+141+133+164+32 = 777
Ratio ore/DO: 67.4

Honing Stone: 177+164+164+168+163+39 = 875
Ratio ore/HS: 59.8

Rubedite Ingot: 8.5K+8.5K+8.5K+8.5K+8.5K+2K = 44.5K
Ratio Ore/Ingot: 0.85

When refining the platinum dusts, this is what I got.

Cromium Grains: 62+59+56 = 177
Ratio PD/CG: 162.6

Zircon Grains: 250
Iridium Grains: 430
Terne Grains: 510
Pulverized Cobalt: 100
Pulverized Titanium: 105
Pulverized Zinc: 110
Pulverized Antimony: 120
Pulverized Aurbic Amber: 12

When refining the ancestor silk and the rubedo scraps, this is what I got.

Dreugh Wax: 17+9 = 26
Ratio (raw stuff)/(dreugh wax) = 202.7

Elegant Lining: 30+17 = 47
Ratio (raw stuff)/(elegant lining) = 112.1

When refining the rough ruby ash, this is what I got

Rosin: 53
Ratio (raw stuff)/rosin = 175.7

Mastic: 65
Ratio (raw stuff)/mastic = 143.3

Turpen: 125
Ratio (raw stuff)/turpen = 57.8

Pitch: 170
Ratio (raw stuff)/pitch = 54.8

Sanded Ruby Ash: 7.9K
Ratio (raw stuff)/(sanded ruby ash) = 0.85

I also found two aetherial dusts and one psyjik ambrosia during this 10-day harvesting session.
Edited by ZOS_Volpe on December 22, 2021 1:24PM
"Argonians have fat, scaly tails." —Rissa Manyclaws.
"Once upon a time there were three sisters: Delicious, Delightful, and Disgusting. Now, Delicious and Delightful were both very pretty girls..." —Brendalyn Jurarde.
"I smell to the nobility." —Indrasa Avani.
"A bargain with an animal is not a contract made." —Haderus Atrimus.
"Redguard makeup for sale. Free samples. Secret ingredients. Unique application method. Lots of satisfied customers." —The Mudball Goblin (aka, Cognac Vinecroft)
"Your armor looks like underwear." —Shuns-the-Knife.
  • goatlyonesub17_ESO
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    I did it again: went farming until I'd harvested 30k platinum dusts. Here are the refining statistics.

    Rubedite Ore: 50247
    Rough Ruby Ash: 9837
    Raw Ancestor Silk: 5371
    Rubedo Hide Scraps: 2705
    Platinum Dust: 30065

    Rubedite Ingot: 42659 84.910%
    Honing Stone: 168+156+181+175+157+3=840 (ratio 59.8)
    Dwarven Oil: 146+142+155+146+153+6=748 (ratio 67.2)
    Grain Solvent: 93+82+95+80+92+1=443 (ratio 113.4)
    Tempering Alloy: 51+62+63+54+64+1=295 (ratio 170.3)

    Sanded Ruby Ash: 8365 85.036%
    Pitch: (850) 164 (ratio 59.9)
    Turpen: (1444) 131 (ratio 75.0)
    Mastic: (333) 77 (ratio 127.7)
    Rosin: (97) 55 (ratio 178.7)

    Ancestor Silk: (44263) 4595 85.568%
    Rubedo Leather: (17107) 2324 85.915%
    Hemming: (2580) 88+43=131 (ratio 61.6)
    Embroidery: (1329) 75+34=109 (ratio 74.0)
    Elegant Lining: (629) 52+28=80 (ratio 100.9)
    Dreugh Wax: (21) 41+12=53 (ratio 152.3)

    Platinum Ounce: (168302) 25635 85.279%
    Terne grains: (7) 181+149+185+1=515 (ratio 58.4)
    Iridium grains: (4) 133+157+133+1=424 (ratio 70.9)
    Zircon grains: (3) 95+79+79+0=253 (ratio 118.8)
    Chromium grains: (7) 54+70+55+1=180 (ratio 167.0)

    Summary
    Green improvement mats occur at the rate of 1 per 60 raw mats refined.
    Blue improvement mats occur at the rate of 1 per 72 raw mats refined.
    Purple improvement mats occur at the rate of 1 per 115 raw mats refined.
    Gold improvement mats occur at the rate of 1 per 167 raw mats refined.

    Thus, the scarcity value of the mats approximately follows this ratio:
    green 5
    blue 6
    purple 10
    gold 14
    "Argonians have fat, scaly tails." —Rissa Manyclaws.
    "Once upon a time there were three sisters: Delicious, Delightful, and Disgusting. Now, Delicious and Delightful were both very pretty girls..." —Brendalyn Jurarde.
    "I smell to the nobility." —Indrasa Avani.
    "A bargain with an animal is not a contract made." —Haderus Atrimus.
    "Redguard makeup for sale. Free samples. Secret ingredients. Unique application method. Lots of satisfied customers." —The Mudball Goblin (aka, Cognac Vinecroft)
    "Your armor looks like underwear." —Shuns-the-Knife.
  • tmbrinks
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    Always nice to see confirmation from another source :smile:

    Here's my data!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQDUjYNQVsIFl0ktkbkSlfYPkzP6pgCOTMQ-qCuzfaI/edit#gid=1892397659
    Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
    65,385 achievement points
  • goatlyonesub17_ESO
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    Nice work. Your sample size is considerably larger than mine. I must have been lucky with the gold mats, since I've been getting a ratio of 1:167, whereas you've gotten a ratio of 1:177.
    Edited by goatlyonesub17_ESO on February 26, 2022 1:36AM
    "Argonians have fat, scaly tails." —Rissa Manyclaws.
    "Once upon a time there were three sisters: Delicious, Delightful, and Disgusting. Now, Delicious and Delightful were both very pretty girls..." —Brendalyn Jurarde.
    "I smell to the nobility." —Indrasa Avani.
    "A bargain with an animal is not a contract made." —Haderus Atrimus.
    "Redguard makeup for sale. Free samples. Secret ingredients. Unique application method. Lots of satisfied customers." —The Mudball Goblin (aka, Cognac Vinecroft)
    "Your armor looks like underwear." —Shuns-the-Knife.
  • Obsidian3
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    Thanks for posting, going to have to go through this data when I get home. So far, whether I have MD slotted or not, I am not noticing much a difference in Gold Mats.
  • katanagirl1
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    Obsidian3 wrote: »
    Thanks for posting, going to have to go through this data when I get home. So far, whether I have MD slotted or not, I am not noticing much a difference in Gold Mats.

    If by MD you mean Meticulous Disassembly, I think that only applies to deconning gear, not refining.
    Khajiit Stamblade main
    Dark Elf Magsorc
    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP
    Dark Elf Magden
    Khajiit Stamblade
    Khajiit Stamina Arcanist

    PS5 NA
  • tmbrinks
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    Obsidian3 wrote: »
    Thanks for posting, going to have to go through this data when I get home. So far, whether I have MD slotted or not, I am not noticing much a difference in Gold Mats.

    If by MD you mean Meticulous Disassembly, I think that only applies to deconning gear, not refining.

    It absolutely applies to refining. 100% tested and confirmed. Data in the link I provided above.
    Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
    65,385 achievement points
  • katanagirl1
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obsidian3 wrote: »
    Thanks for posting, going to have to go through this data when I get home. So far, whether I have MD slotted or not, I am not noticing much a difference in Gold Mats.

    If by MD you mean Meticulous Disassembly, I think that only applies to deconning gear, not refining.

    It absolutely applies to refining. 100% tested and confirmed. Data in the link I provided above.

    OK cool, I didn’t know that. Or maybe I did and forgot, hard to say nowadays, lol.
    Khajiit Stamblade main
    Dark Elf Magsorc
    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP
    Dark Elf Magden
    Khajiit Stamblade
    Khajiit Stamina Arcanist

    PS5 NA
  • Fizzyapple
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    This is fantastic. Thanks for sharing this :) I love love me some data.

    I have found over 1000 lead based motifs with interesting numbers on drop rates of different pieces etc do you all feel its worth me sharing?

    A different type of farming but farming none the less.
  • goatlyonesub17_ESO
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    If you are in a good ore-harvesting area, are champion level, have blacksmithing maxed 50, have plentiful harvest and expert harvester in your crafting CP bar, are wearing a very speedy set of apparel, and no competition for the ore nodes, then you can probably get 12 platinum dusts per minute.

    Improving three jewelry pieces to legendary requires 12 chromium platings.
    12 chromium platings requires 120 chromium grains.
    120 chromium grains can usually be gotten from refining 24000 platinum dusts
    Getting 24000 platinum dusts from harvesting takes 2000 minutes, or 33 hours and 20 minutes, of constant playing time under ideal circumstances

    Coming at it another way, you will probably harvest one ore node (either rubedite or platinum) every 10 seconds.
    You will average 2 platinum dusts per node.
    Every minute, you'll get 12 platinum dusts...
    ...you know how it goes from here.
    Edited by goatlyonesub17_ESO on April 24, 2022 9:28PM
    "Argonians have fat, scaly tails." —Rissa Manyclaws.
    "Once upon a time there were three sisters: Delicious, Delightful, and Disgusting. Now, Delicious and Delightful were both very pretty girls..." —Brendalyn Jurarde.
    "I smell to the nobility." —Indrasa Avani.
    "A bargain with an animal is not a contract made." —Haderus Atrimus.
    "Redguard makeup for sale. Free samples. Secret ingredients. Unique application method. Lots of satisfied customers." —The Mudball Goblin (aka, Cognac Vinecroft)
    "Your armor looks like underwear." —Shuns-the-Knife.
  • MidniteOwl1913
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    If you are in a good ore-harvesting area, are champion level, have blacksmithing maxed 50, have plentiful harvest and expert harvester in your crafting CP bar, are wearing a very speedy set of apparel, and no competition for the ore nodes, then you can probably get 12 platinum dusts per minute.

    Improving three jewelry pieces to legendary requires 12 chromium platings.
    12 chromium platings requires 120 chromium grains.
    120 chromium grains can usually be gotten from refining 24000 platinum dusts
    Getting 24000 platinum dusts from harvesting takes 2000 minutes, or 33 hours and 20 minutes, of constant playing time under ideal circumstances

    Coming at it another way, you will probably harvest one ore node (either rubedite or platinum) every 10 seconds.
    You will average 2 platinum dusts per node.
    Every minute, you'll get 12 platinum dusts...
    ...you know how it goes from here.

    So all those farming bots are really making *a lot of* plating... Dang!
    PS5/NA
  • mercyormisery
    mercyormisery
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    I'm still kind of new to harvesting; do you have all the crafting lines maxed?
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