Sword Singer and % weapon damage.

sionIV

I've been going through some old threads on this forum and reddit, but I wasn't able to find an answer to this question.

The Sword Singer set adds 600 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage to your Two Handed abilities. How does this work with skills/gear that increases your % weapon damage like Major Brutality or Agility?

If you played a stamina character, who only used Two Handed Abilities (hypothetical) for damage, would using Sword Singer over Hunding's Rage give twice as much Weapon Damage (600 vs 300), or would Sword Singer lose some from % bonuses?

There might be a very simple answer to this question, but I haven't been able to find one.

EnOeZ

sionIV wrote: »

I've been going through some old threads on this forum and reddit, but I wasn't able to find an answer to this question.

The Sword Singer set adds 600 Weapon Damage and Spell Damage to your Two Handed abilities. How does this work with skills/gear that increases your % weapon damage like Major Brutality or Agility?

If you played a stamina character, who only used Two Handed Abilities (hypothetical) for damage, would using Sword Singer over Hunding's Rage give twice as much Weapon Damage (600 vs 300), or would Sword Singer lose some from % bonuses?

There might be a very simple answer to this question, but I haven't been able to find one.

I made a similar post some time ago.
One said it works %.
Cannot confirm.

Reorx_Holybeard

While I haven't verified this in a while, it was confirmed at one point that % bonuses affect this and other similar sets. Its how we still calculate things on our Build Editor anyways.

sionIV

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

While I haven't verified this in a while, it was confirmed at one point that % bonuses affect this and other similar sets. Its how we still calculate things on our Build Editor anyways.

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build, and if Sword Singer scales properly, it would end up being better than New Moon Acolyte without the % Increase to skills. I would just like a confirmation on this before I end up trying to put together the build.

Jim_Pipp

Yesterday Skinny Cheeks released a video YESTERDAY that clears this up - spoiler - the boosts do apply, but don't show on stat sheet.

Video starts at the relevant section, takes about 2 minutes.

https://youtu.be/-6yHC7TLoME?t=40

Reorx_Holybeard

sionIV wrote: »

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

While I haven't verified this in a while, it was confirmed at one point that % bonuses affect this and other similar sets. Its how we still calculate things on our Build Editor anyways.

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build, and if Sword Singer scales properly, it would end up being better than New Moon Acolyte without the % Increase to skills. I would just like a confirmation on this before I end up trying to put together the build.

Just tested this on PTS and the Sword-Singer set is confirmed as being affected by Major Brutality (and presumably any other +% Weapon Damage effect). Also was pleased to see that the Sword-Singer effect is shown on the Two-Handed tooltips...I'm pretty sure it wasn't like this originally. The weapon damage is not shown in your "Weapon Damage" stat as mentioned.

sionIV

Jim_Pipp wrote: »

Yesterday Skinny Cheeks released a video YESTERDAY that clears this up - spoiler - the boosts do apply, but don't show on stat sheet.

Video starts at the relevant section, takes about 2 minutes.

https://youtu.be/-6yHC7TLoME?t=40

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

While I haven't verified this in a while, it was confirmed at one point that % bonuses affect this and other similar sets. Its how we still calculate things on our Build Editor anyways.

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build, and if Sword Singer scales properly, it would end up being better than New Moon Acolyte without the % Increase to skills. I would just like a confirmation on this before I end up trying to put together the build.

Just tested this on PTS and the Sword-Singer set is confirmed as being affected by Major Brutality (and presumably any other +% Weapon Damage effect). Also was pleased to see that the Sword-Singer effect is shown on the Two-Handed tooltips...I'm pretty sure it wasn't like this originally. The weapon damage is not shown in your "Weapon Damage" stat as mentioned.

Thank you very much for the information and trying it out on the PTS!

Urzigurumash

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

Ippokrates

Urzigurumash wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

Well, if you are going for Sword Singer, it is good to replace Endless Hail with Stampede Maelstrom. Then you can get Vateshran or Master on front and rule, cause both bar would benefit from SS, unlike any other weapon tree or class ability.

sionIV

Urzigurumash wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

This:

Ippokrates wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

Well, if you are going for Sword Singer, it is good to replace Endless Hail with Stampede Maelstrom. Then you can get Vateshran or Master on front and rule, cause both bar would benefit from SS, unlike any other weapon tree or class ability.

Stampede on the back bar to proc weapon enchant, Wrecking Blow, Carve, Executioner on the front bar.

Urzigurumash

sionIV wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

This:

Ippokrates wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

sionIV wrote: »

I've been looking into a 2h/2h Stamina Sorcerer build.

Why? Using 2 Arena weapons?

Well, if you are going for Sword Singer, it is good to replace Endless Hail with Stampede Maelstrom. Then you can get Vateshran or Master on front and rule, cause both bar would benefit from SS, unlike any other weapon tree or class ability.

Stampede on the back bar to proc weapon enchant, Wrecking Blow, Carve, Executioner on the front bar.

Right, that's the only reason I've ever found to run 2x2h, before Stampede had that ground DoT there really wasn't any great reason. The BRP and AS 2h could use a bit of a buff in my opinion.

Narvuntien

I am pretty sure they do (I run Sword singer front bar and Masters bow back bar in my PVP build)

EnOeZ

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

While I haven't verified this in a while, it was confirmed at one point that % bonuses affect this and other similar sets. Its how we still calculate things on our Build Editor anyways.

Hey ReorX, thanks very much for the answer AND your build editor !!!
I use it all the time and DO recommend it !!!

Just to say thank you I use it so often !!!!
Congrats for your work and did I say thank you already ???
XD

Vaoh

All of the % bonuses which affect Weapon/Spell Damage will also affect the damage-type specific stats you gain Sword Singer, Ysgramor’s, etc.

Just remember your healing abilities (like Vigor) scale from Weapon Damage, so New Moon Acolyte would buff ALL stamina skills while Sword Singer will strictly only buff Two Handed skills.