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Game Costs: The never Ending Price Tag
GEN_ZOOL
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Well, I know it's a Modern Business Mechanic these days, but Paid Subscription plus extras...
Can someone step back for just a minute and do the maths please.
£70 for the Game - Thought I was getting a FULL Product at the time, I was wrong (though glad to see they finally fixed the False Advertising, so that's a plus)
OK, so you get about 10% of the Game for that price.
£45 for the DLC I think it was
OK, now you have 13% of the Game.
I'd have to redo all of the Maths on this one, but on top what I already had, I had to fork out another £120 at In-Game DLC Zone Content.
So on its own, this is now at about 18% of the Game...
So another £400-£600 I think it was for all the other stuff.
So, why all this cost...
This is just so that when my ESO Membership expires, I can still access those Zones no matter what.
As they don't come FREE.
Assuming I had the ability to keep up with the Subscription...
£50 for PSN Access
£110 for ESO Plus
All that every year...
That's not counting any other stuff the Player might want...
Crafting Stations, £15-£20 each...
Transmute Station, £21...
A Light Bulb, £1 each, and you need lots of them (OK, there are Lights that can be obtained via other means).
An In-Game House, can vary in Price, and I'll admit, there are other Currencies that apply to some Properties, but these can be up to £70 each when using real money.
So, going to cheap-skate method, that's £90 for a Fresh copy of the Game plus £160 per Year thereafter (OK, assuming you're on PS/XB).
I've seen Mobile Phone Contracts for less than that.
I'll admit, I'm out of Money now, and I can't afford to play this coming Year (oh well, see you 2023 I guess), the cost of Living has gone up, and Monthly Income has gone down.
I just think that someone should just take a look at the whole thing and just bring the prices to more Sensible and Manageable levels.
Sure, this is me having a moan, but if a Developer sees this, then corrects the Prices for things, then this Post will have done its Job.
Can someone step back for just a minute and do the maths please.
£70 for the Game - Thought I was getting a FULL Product at the time, I was wrong (though glad to see they finally fixed the False Advertising, so that's a plus)
OK, so you get about 10% of the Game for that price.
£45 for the DLC I think it was
OK, now you have 13% of the Game.
I'd have to redo all of the Maths on this one, but on top what I already had, I had to fork out another £120 at In-Game DLC Zone Content.
So on its own, this is now at about 18% of the Game...
So another £400-£600 I think it was for all the other stuff.
So, why all this cost...
This is just so that when my ESO Membership expires, I can still access those Zones no matter what.
As they don't come FREE.
Assuming I had the ability to keep up with the Subscription...
£50 for PSN Access
£110 for ESO Plus
All that every year...
That's not counting any other stuff the Player might want...
Crafting Stations, £15-£20 each...
Transmute Station, £21...
A Light Bulb, £1 each, and you need lots of them (OK, there are Lights that can be obtained via other means).
An In-Game House, can vary in Price, and I'll admit, there are other Currencies that apply to some Properties, but these can be up to £70 each when using real money.
So, going to cheap-skate method, that's £90 for a Fresh copy of the Game plus £160 per Year thereafter (OK, assuming you're on PS/XB).
I've seen Mobile Phone Contracts for less than that.
I'll admit, I'm out of Money now, and I can't afford to play this coming Year (oh well, see you 2023 I guess), the cost of Living has gone up, and Monthly Income has gone down.
I just think that someone should just take a look at the whole thing and just bring the prices to more Sensible and Manageable levels.
Sure, this is me having a moan, but if a Developer sees this, then corrects the Prices for things, then this Post will have done its Job.
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree. I have always liked games with a subscription instead of breaking things up. Granted, we can choose to subscribe if we want or buy the items ala carte but a pure sub has always appealed to me as it is a great carrot for devs as they have to keep our interest but also a simple model for us players.0 -
Zenzuki✭✭✭✭✭The original box costs got you 100% of the base game. That's what you paid for at the time and that's what you got.
DLC and Expansions are not base game are not then (nor ever) were they advertised as such.
Moving on...
The ESO+ Yearly Sub cost breaks down to about .38 cents a day.
If you can't scrounge up this amount of daily pocket change, this may not be the right hobby for you.Can Open...
Worms EVERYWHERE!10 -
Tornaad✭✭✭✭✭
✭The original box costs got you 100% of the base game. That's what you paid for at the time and that's what you got.
DLC and Expansions are not base game are not then (nor ever) were they advertised as such.
Moving on...
The ESO+ Yearly Sub cost breaks down to about .38 cents a day.
If you can't scrounge up this amount of daily pocket change, this may not be the right hobby for you.
Adding to that, I would point out that one of the biggest differences between making a game like a MMO and a single player game is that once you make the single player game, other than a few updates and patches afterwards once they make it they are done working on it. For MMO's they continue working on the game for however long the game is available to play, even if they did not release new content for it, they would still have to pay staff to maintain the servers so we could play the game.6 -
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✭Can buy all DLCs for gold thru gifting and skip the subscription. Only need to buy the Chapter with cash (when preordering) in the summer.
This is cheaper than the yearly sub, and you own the content. If you stop playing for a few weeks of the month you haven’t wasted anything.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
__________________________Backstories:_________________________
Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭you lately could get Blackwood for 30 Euro or so, so you have the newest chapter, including others like summerset, northern elsweyr, morrowind, greymoor.
Then eso+, plus the network access on consoles, which adds another 25 Ruro per month.
25 Euro is what I spent for 3 cups of icecream before, when I went to cafes instead of playing, and I bought more than just 3 ice every month.
So despite this money I spend every month (on xbox), I spend less money since I play ESO.
I'm aware though, that other countries have lower income, so 25 Euro can be more difficult to afford.
For those players, a non suscription method would be better. PC instead of xbox/PS to avoid network fees, and no ESO+.
I play without ESO+ on a second account, and it is not completely correct that you have just below 20% of the content. Because the DLC are not only zones, but also a lot of dungeons I don't play anyway.
So even with the cheapest solution - Blackwood only, no monthly fees, you get a lot of bang for the buck, much more than most single player games can offer (those cost 80 Euro and are finished after 1-2 months of playtime).Edited by markulrich1966 on December 9, 2021 8:52AM0 -
LadySinflower✭✭✭✭✭Well, I know it's a Modern Business Mechanic these days, but Paid Subscription plus extras...
Can someone step back for just a minute and do the maths please.
£70 for the Game - Thought I was getting a FULL Product at the time, I was wrong (though glad to see they finally fixed the False Advertising, so that's a plus)
OK, so you get about 10% of the Game for that price.
£45 for the DLC I think it was
OK, now you have 13% of the Game.
I'd have to redo all of the Maths on this one, but on top what I already had, I had to fork out another £120 at In-Game DLC Zone Content.
So on its own, this is now at about 18% of the Game...
So another £400-£600 I think it was for all the other stuff.
So, why all this cost...
This is just so that when my ESO Membership expires, I can still access those Zones no matter what.
As they don't come FREE.
Assuming I had the ability to keep up with the Subscription...
£50 for PSN Access
£110 for ESO Plus
All that every year...
That's not counting any other stuff the Player might want...
Crafting Stations, £15-£20 each...
Transmute Station, £21...
A Light Bulb, £1 each, and you need lots of them (OK, there are Lights that can be obtained via other means).
An In-Game House, can vary in Price, and I'll admit, there are other Currencies that apply to some Properties, but these can be up to £70 each when using real money.
So, going to cheap-skate method, that's £90 for a Fresh copy of the Game plus £160 per Year thereafter (OK, assuming you're on PS/XB).
I've seen Mobile Phone Contracts for less than that.
I'll admit, I'm out of Money now, and I can't afford to play this coming Year (oh well, see you 2023 I guess), the cost of Living has gone up, and Monthly Income has gone down.
I just think that someone should just take a look at the whole thing and just bring the prices to more Sensible and Manageable levels.
Sure, this is me having a moan, but if a Developer sees this, then corrects the Prices for things, then this Post will have done its Job.
I am so with you on this! My biggest problem with it is that, in my house, we have to pay for everything twice. We bought the base game and didn't realize that literally everything that includes extra content must be purchased for every player in the house. I've never had to do that with other games. Generally, if you buy a collector's edition or whatever, you put it on the console (I'm on Xbox) and everybody enjoys the benefits of it. Not with ESO. They don't offer a family subscription at a discount either. Everything must be paid for in full for each and every member of the household who plays the game. My partner and I both love the game so we're both stuck paying individually for everything to do with ESO. So, take your list and double it for me.1 -
SSX_Gryphon✭✭✭Response sandwich:
It's comperable to what's already out there.
Plus it's pretty neat that the people who work hard to produce content for us to complain about get paid for it. I don't imagine we'd get too far on a volunteer basis. It can be pricey, true however overhead forms part of that equation.
There's no way to say this without coming across as antagonistic but it's not intented - This is a product produced by a company whose purpose is to generate income. They have something you want and price it accordingly.
That said, your basic ammenities cost more per year than you'd spend in the lifecycle of ESO, clean water, natural gas, electricity, healthcare.
It's cheaper than a cinema ticket. It lasts longer. It's saved me more than what OP states they've spent, simply from staying in to hang online with my pals instead of heading to a pub. Blackwood costs less than a round. It costs less than I pay to go do the same job I do from home in the office 1 day a week to "collaberate" - my job expects me to drop the price of blackwood each week just so I can earn money to feed myself.
It's an entertainment product. If you think the pricing is unfair, that's fair enough. You can make a choice to engage or not engage with it.
If you decide to drop your money that's on you. Complaining about something you had a choice about is on some levels akin to using a bathroom, neglecting to wipe and then complaining about the smell.
The real issue here is our attitude, because we've all been the OP at some point or another about one thing or another. We want things on our terms or spit the dummy. The world has never worked like that. Sure, it would be nice if it did but it doesn't and it's not something that's a recent occurence - entitlement is. This is something I'm happy to acknowledge exists in myself as well and in a way I'm thankful that a lot of us live in a world where this is something that we can get frustrated about as a genuine issue for ourselves, because there's a lot of problems in the world that are a heck of a lot worse and we're lucky to be able to get annoyed by stuff like this instead of that.
TL:DR - OP, I get you man, but it's just one of those things that might be a pain in the butt, but is what it is.
EDIT - I think the real crime here is flippin' train fare. :P If y'll could collectively write a letter to my bosses about a pointless commute, that'd be swell
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LashanW✭✭✭✭✭
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Steam's regional pricing is very very good. (It doesn't apply to ESO+ or crowns however)markulrich1966 wrote: »I'm aware though, that other countries have lower income, so 25 Euro can be more difficult to afford.
For those players, a non suscription method would be better. PC instead of xbox/PS to avoid network fees, and no ESO+.
You can buy Blackwood + all previous chapters + base game for 30USD (26.5£) in my region. These days there is a discount so base game + all current chapters are available for less than 10USD (8.74£)---No longer active in ESO---
Platform: PC-EU
CP: 2500+Trial Achievements
Godslayer, Gryphon Heart, Tick-Tock Tormentor, Immortal Redeemer, Dro-m'Athra Destroyer, vMoL no death
Arena Achievements
vMA Flawless, vVH Spirit Slayer
DLC Dungeon Trifectas
Scalecaller Peak, Fang Lair, Depths of Malatar, Icereach1 -
colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would honestly have no problem with all of that if they didn't locked cosmetics behind gambling and made em in-game rewards or direct purchases at the very least as paying for a "new game" every year and a sub apparently isn't enough to get a full product.1 -
Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭Oh come on, it's nothing like that. If anything, I'd say that the ESO is pretty darn generous. I've played for over 2 years now. I think it's cost me less than £30. In total.
You can get the base game - which is like 90% of the content - for £5 right now. Or you can pay £16.49 and get the base game and all of the chapters. That gives you all the classes, all the main zones, all the crafting stuff, and all the key skill lines. For ever.
Obviously if you want to go through the dlc zones and / or run the dlc dungeons you need ESO+. But, leaving aside they run week long free trials pretty regularly it's £8.99 a month. If you haven't done them at the end of the trial, sub for a month. They don't take that long.
If you've got to have stuff *now*, and can't wait for the sale, or you need to have every collectible pet/outfit/skin/maguffin, well, ok. But that's your choice. Zos have to make money somewhere...
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Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭£70 for the Game - Thought I was getting a FULL Product at the time, I was wrong
Well, for one, you were buying an MMO. A genre which, even before "modern business practices"/"live service games", was never 'a full product.'
Personally, I bought the game on disc in 2016 ($20?), a couple months sub, Summerset+Morrowind when Summerset came out, and Blackwood/Greymoor/Elsweyr this year during a sale ($30?). Plus $16 worth of Crowns in 2017 during Black Friday. I've got most of the zone DLC (murkmire + deadlands were free; bought the others during Zone Event sales), don't care about the Dungeon DLC, and catch up on the other ones during Free ESO+ Week. /shrug
edit: heck of a lot less than I paid playing WoW for vanilla + three expansions (paid expansions + required sub). Probably less than I paid for City of Heroes (required sub + expansion).
edit2: wait, you're claiming you have to sub yearly, but that you also have to pay for all DLC in case you stop subbing? What about all the Crowns you get for those yearly subs? Spend that on DLC and you don't need to buy any extra. Especially if you wait for sales.That's not counting any other stuff the Player might want...
Crafting Stations, £15-£20 each...
Transmute Station, £21...
Wait, why do these cost you anything? I've got a full set of crafting stations from writs. Or you can buy them for gold off traders. (no transmute because I don't bother, plus I have Clockwork City access, plus I have enough writ vouchers to get one if I did)
I also have 9 houses (including one huge one; Summerset event house) just from playing. I'll be getting another one from the current yearly event, plus I haven't gotten to Elsweyr yet, it apparently gives you one. Plus there's likely a couple more "apartments" in Chapters I haven't activated yet.
None of this junk costs Crowns, you just need to play the game. Which I hope you're doing, if you're subbing for full years at a time.
Seems like you're making a disingenuous argument, to crank up the "required price" as high as you can. Even if it involves listing a whole lot of "fool and his money are soon parted" expenses.
And "plus I need to buy PS+" is an argument you need to have with Sony.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on December 9, 2021 2:51PM6 -
Raideen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I prefered WOW's model
15 bucks a month and 99.99% of the game and content within is open to you.
Want that one of 10 mounts they sell on the cash store though? Here you go sir/maam, that will be 25 dollars. Not some conversion hidden behind another conversion where you have no clue how much you are spending.
IMO, one method speaks of honesty, the other speaks of deceit.
All of this being said. Hello Games launched No Man's Sky in 2016, has had 17 major updates and never charged a penny more than the retail box copy and they are happy with the money they make.Edited by Raideen on December 9, 2021 3:31PM2 -
RicAlmighty✭✭✭✭✭This post is extremely disingenuous and is full of exaggerations. You can get the entire game + chapters for around $25 USD if you simply look around. That's 1000+ hours of content for the cost of a simple dinner.
Moreover, get ESO+ @ $12/mo USD and you have every other DLC in the game, 1650 crowns a month and unlimited storage. That's easily another 1000-2000 hours of content.
If you are unable to afford that, then video games (MMOs in particular) are simply not the hobby for you.Edited by RicAlmighty on December 9, 2021 3:51PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I prefered WOW's model
15 bucks a month and 99.99% of the game and content within is open to you.
And $40 for an expansion every couple years.All of this being said. Hello Games launched No Man's Sky in 2016, has had 17 major updates and never charged a penny more than the retail box copy and they are happy with the money they make.
Not really an MMO, with the same server requirements, is it? But yeah, they've definitely taken "fix our mistakes"/customer service to a new level.
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✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »And $40 for an expansion every couple years.
As opposed to ESO releasing a 50 dollar chapter every year, then a DLC (which either forces a sub or purchase), not to mention the LITERAL thousands of dollars one would need to spend to amass the mounts, pets, etc vs WoW where its all had in game.....
ya, I'll take the wow model.Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Not really an MMO, with the same server requirements, is it? But yeah, they've definitely taken "fix our mistakes"/customer service to a new level.
Less about mistakes and more about releasing the content they wanted to release, except Sony was pushing for an earlier than expected release data due to exclusivity at launch. But that being said, Hello Games writes the rulebook on how to make good on promises and treat the customers with respect by focusing on fun instead of the customers wallet.
Edited by Raideen on December 9, 2021 4:18PM0