The_Wunderboy wrote: »It turns your LA and HA into a channeled frèe heal while toggled and also gives mitigation to you through passive now. I don't know why dedicated healers don't run it already in PVP at least.
The_Wunderboy wrote: »It turns your LA and HA into a channeled frèe heal while toggled and also gives mitigation to you through passive now. I don't know why dedicated healers don't run it already in PVP at least.
If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
Or they were using Symbiosis which heals you for 50% of the healing you give allies with the ability.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Tbh. I was thinking of using this skill next patch on my NB to replace Malevolent Offering - Because that NB skill will gonna cost magicka next patch and on my support tank build I wont be able to sustain it. Right now it costs health, and it is not some great amount of health, so it is basically a "free" healing for a tanky build with some tiny amount of health recovery (although you have to be careful with it as you need to manage your health bar).
Mend Wounds is basically totally free heal too, but it is not instant and requires a toggle + light attacks or channelled heavy attack. So "on paper" it should work as a Malevolent Offering replacement.
The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
Well that's probably why it's underperforming. Should be awesome on Resto HA.thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
To my knowledge it does not behave like normal heavy attacks. For example, using it does not proc sets that require a heavy attack skill to proc them.
The_Wunderboy wrote: »Well that's probably why it's underperforming. Should be awesome on Resto HA.thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
To my knowledge it does not behave like normal heavy attacks. For example, using it does not proc sets that require a heavy attack skill to proc them.
HA on Resto and Light is already a channel?thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »Well that's probably why it's underperforming. Should be awesome on Resto HA.thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
To my knowledge it does not behave like normal heavy attacks. For example, using it does not proc sets that require a heavy attack skill to proc them.
Yea but it's not really a heavy attack the heavy attack is turned into a channeled effect. If the channeled effect could proc sets like Scorion's Feast that would be beneficial.
The_Wunderboy wrote: »HA on Resto and Light is already a channel?thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »Well that's probably why it's underperforming. Should be awesome on Resto HA.thesarahandcompany wrote: »The_Wunderboy wrote: »If not backed by an experienced team who knows to defend you and have your back, stopping and taking the time to target fast moving players while you are also juking will get you killed more than getting anyone healed. Autotarget and AOE heals are the way in PvP for that important reason. In PvE it's grossly inefficient for most content where healing matters. It's a neat idea for a skill that has no place in the ESO system so agree with OP.
Haven't played with it since the last patch, but IF it counted as a channeled ability that gave you 30% dmg reduction from the passive ala meditate or other psijic channels THEN it might get some use. Has anyone tested that?
It is a channeled ability, and judging by the tankiness of the healer I saw in Nyce's stream using it, I'd guess it gets the 30% mit passive. Paired with resto HA major mending proc makes sense.
To my knowledge it does not behave like normal heavy attacks. For example, using it does not proc sets that require a heavy attack skill to proc them.
Yea but it's not really a heavy attack the heavy attack is turned into a channeled effect. If the channeled effect could proc sets like Scorion's Feast that would be beneficial.
BXR_Lonestar wrote: »As a healer main, it has been so long since I even attempted to use this skill. I totally agree that the skill is really useless for most applications in that it comes at to great an opportunity cost when you are using the heavy attack channeled heal. It would be nice if using the skill didn't cost magika, as it could be used in fights that strain healer sustain, but as I recall, the last time I tried to use the skill, it drained your resources when you used it, so it didn't work as I anticipated it would.
Overall, definitely just needs to be reimagined. Change it to another AOE HOT and make it so that while standing in it, the healer gains X% stronger heals and it might become more useful to use.
Well, at least everyone agrees that this ability is at the very bottom of demand. Well, if you really think:
1) Very weak heal of the target solo;
2) During the application, you simply release the rest of the group / raid members to your own healing or already to death, because sometimes you need to heal a lot;
3) Doesn't activate any sets, it's just a flow of energy;
4) The regeneration of mana is weak, more regeneration will be from the heavy resto of the staff;
5) Morph that heals you for 50%, heals you for ridiculous numbers.
You can do something:
1) You can make a heavy attack not with a beam, but with a completed action with an AOE healing burst at the end and strong regen;
2) Or. Make Paid this skill and make a constant stream that really heals everyone around, in order to maintain life in weak fights and stages, where it is not necessary to heal very much.
At least there will be a niche for this skill, at least some.