Those who dont play w/ADDONS: A catalogue book is needed

HyekAr

Hi,

there is a lot of recipe, diagrams, etc in the game.
what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

i imagine it in this way: like the reading lore book, with several marks on laterral, with units : FOOD, FORNITURE, REAGENTS
and once u re in that unit you can change pages to find: SEATS, and different type of seats (motly recepe I found in the game)

this would be very comfortable to check everytime i need to know something, quanties, ingredients, etc

SpiritKitten

HyekAr wrote: »

Hi,

what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

addon Master Recipe List

SeaGtGruff

As a PC player who doesn't use addons, I feel the need to ask-- "But what about console players???"

HyekAr

Hey guys, What if I dont want to play with addons, what I have no right to play or ask for updates something which is very comfortble.

The dev should block all the addons! So ppl start playing the game as it is made..

huntgod_ESO

The devs allow and endorse addons, so the game is being played as intended. Allowing and endorsing addons means they don't have to spend time and resources addressing QoL issues that are easily addressed with player made addons.

Mumbles_the_Tank

HyekAr wrote: »

The dev should block all the addons! So ppl start playing the game as it is made..

But the game was made lacking vital information in multiple systems - for the supposed sense of traditional Skyrim immersion.

These devs, much like Bethesda would do with mods, provided means for players to tailor their experience to suit their needs. Your personal selection of addons are exactly how the game was meant to be played.

Now if only we had the power we do in single player Scrolls games and the community could fix all the bugs that go ignored too.

SickleCider

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

As a PC player who doesn't use addons, I feel the need to ask-- "But what about console players???"

Yes, thank you, and louder for the people in the back:

C O N S O L E
P L A Y E R S
D O N ' T
G E T
A D D O N S

Danikat

I do use addons and I use the Craftstore addon specifically for this purpose, so I'd really like it to become part of the base game. I don't need the majority of what Craftstore does (which is track your progress with research and items you can use to learn traits), I use it purely to record motifs, recipes and furniture plans I do and don't have because there's no sensible way to do that in the game itself.

I was going to say motifs are included in the journal's lore library, but for some reason it doesn't have all of them, which seems odd. (I think it's only the later ones which are only available as individual pages which it tracks.)

So if they could add all the motifs, and include provisioning recipies and furniture plans that would be helpful.

CyberOnEso

+1 I think having a system like the 'Outfit System' or 'Item set collection' system but for collectibles would be a great idea.

I think having a page where you can preview all the furniture recipes, sorted by the current categories, and click them to display a preview of them would be an amazing quality of life feature.

If ZOS were to implement this I think then deciding that all collectibles would become account-wide would be a good idea, because it would be impossible for a human to collect everything on multiple characters especially with the speed that things are being introduced. You don't need to fear people will run out of stuff to collect, it is more than a full time job as it is to collect everything on one character.

Fikkan

HyekAr wrote: »

Hi,

there is a lot of recipe, diagrams, etc in the game.
what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

i imagine it in this way: like the reading lore book, with several marks on laterral, with units : FOOD, FORNITURE, REAGENTS
and once u re in that unit you can change pages to find: SEATS, and different type of seats (motly recepe I found in the game)

this would be very comfortable to check everytime i need to know something, quanties, ingredients, etc

Something like this may help in the meantime...

Character and Guild Database.
https://www.eso-database.com/en/

If you use the gizmo available for download and install, it updates every time you log off.

HyekAr

Fikkan wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

Hi,

there is a lot of recipe, diagrams, etc in the game.
what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

i imagine it in this way: like the reading lore book, with several marks on laterral, with units : FOOD, FORNITURE, REAGENTS
and once u re in that unit you can change pages to find: SEATS, and different type of seats (motly recepe I found in the game)

this would be very comfortable to check everytime i need to know something, quanties, ingredients, etc

Something like this may help in the meantime...

Character and Guild Database.
https://www.eso-database.com/en/

If you use the gizmo available for download and install, it updates every time you log off.

Thanks bro for sharing, but the thing is I cant install addons(even if I would, why? I mean tge game itself should provide this things) but I need a feature because it is really crazy.. remember what i have to collect for crafting or writing it on a papel(which i am not willing to do.. bcz i am playing a game not making a doctoral tesis)🤣🤣🤣

orgin_stadia

Versispellis wrote: »

C O N S O L E
P L A Y E R S
D O N ' T
G E T
A D D O N S

Just to add to your voice:

Stadia players don't get addons either, and they are playing crossplay with PC players that do.

Pauwer

HyekAr wrote: »

Hey guys, What if I dont want to play with addons, what I have no right to play or ask for updates something which is very comfortble.

The dev should block all the addons! So ppl start playing the game as it is made..

Yeh i also don't use any add ons on pc. I think any new functions should be added to the base game by the software provider. See like they banned people because addon made it look like a cheat? Would not happen if game was updated by the devs, not by whoever.

JJOtterBear

1) addons are not going anywhere on PC. nor should they.
2) addons should definitely be enabled for everyone, but I lack the knowledge for why this is harder for consoles.

Sylvermynx

JJOtterBear wrote: »

1) addons are not going anywhere on PC. nor should they.
2) addons should definitely be enabled for everyone, but I lack the knowledge for why this is harder for consoles.

It's not really "harder" for consoles. It's that the console providers (Microsoft for Xbox, Sony for Playstation) don't currently allow 3rd party software on their platforms.

HyekAr

There is few small things which should have ingame tools for that.
Like dps measure(as all guild ask for the addon),
catalogue book(to have some order of things and posibility to check it anytime).
Day &night clock bar which is very usefull to measure when I should start doing other stuff..(f.e. colecting resourses is easier during the night, bcz of the helping yellow light)
Etc

DinoZavr

HyekAr wrote: »

Hey guys, What if I dont want to play with addons, what I have no right to play or ask for updates something which is very comfortble.

The dev should block all the addons! So ppl start playing the game as it is made..

That is you.
Other players are different.
Addons fix what developers left unfinished/undone because of tough schedule or lack of gaming practice or for other reasons (like hard to code on existing engine).
If devs ever ban addons i quit the very same day, despites i sincerely love ESO, but more that that i hate repetitive time-consuming brainless actions required to do something elementary (like swapping gear, crafting writs, finding item in 18 toons inventories, having minimap on screen, etc etc).

PizzaCat82

Addons are the game is meant to be played. That's why the devs keep adding in features that were already covered by an addon months or years earlier. This is coming from someone who plays console (because their friends played it starting out. They all left and I'm sitting here with thousands of dollars worth of crowns that cant be transferred to other systems)

If you want fast features that help you out greatly, don't play console. Period.

HyekAr

PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Addons are the game is meant to be played. That's why the devs keep adding in features that were already covered by an addon months or years earlier. This is coming from someone who plays console (because their friends played it starting out. They all left and I'm sitting here with thousands of dollars worth of crowns that cant be transferred to other systems)

If you want fast features that help you out greatly, don't play console. Period.

I am plying with Stadia, it can be pc-console no matter. The thing is there is very logic things which should be in the game, but those re not, and there is addons for that? Like time bar, a recipe book.. it is not hard coding..

DinoZavr wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

Hey guys, What if I dont want to play with addons, what I have no right to play or ask for updates something which is very comfortble.

The dev should block all the addons! So ppl start playing the game as it is made..

That is you.
Other players are different.
Addons fix what developers left unfinished/undone because of tough schedule or lack of gaming practice or for other reasons (like hard to code on existing engine).
If devs ever ban addons i quit the very same day, despites i sincerely love ESO, but more that that i hate repetitive time-consuming brainless actions required to do something elementary (like swapping gear, crafting writs, finding item in 18 toons inventories, having minimap on screen, etc etc).

So some ppl can code things devs cant..?

vsrs_au

HyekAr wrote: »

So some ppl can code things devs cant..?

In defence of the devs: it's not that they can't code these features we want, it's that there probably aren't enough devs to spend the time on it. That's why it's good (for PC platform players only, of course) to have non-ZoS devs to provide these features.

As a dev, I'm used to always being forced to limit what I add to a software feature, due to lack of schedule time. It's just the way the industry works, because software companies try to deliver the most features possible but in the least time, in order to be competitive with other companies.

Fikkan

HyekAr wrote: »

Fikkan wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

Hi,

there is a lot of recipe, diagrams, etc in the game.
what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

i imagine it in this way: like the reading lore book, with several marks on laterral, with units : FOOD, FORNITURE, REAGENTS
and once u re in that unit you can change pages to find: SEATS, and different type of seats (motly recepe I found in the game)

this would be very comfortable to check everytime i need to know something, quanties, ingredients, etc

Something like this may help in the meantime...

Character and Guild Database.
https://www.eso-database.com/en/

If you use the gizmo available for download and install, it updates every time you log off.

Thanks bro for sharing, but the thing is I cant install addons(even if I would, why? I mean tge game itself should provide this things) but I need a feature because it is really crazy.. remember what i have to collect for crafting or writing it on a papel(which i am not willing to do.. bcz i am playing a game not making a doctoral tesis)🤣🤣🤣

I agree with you. I was just attempting to help you in the now. That gizmo, btw, isn't an addon, it's a small app you load onto your computer that collects the data when you log off and uploads it to that website. I don't know if consolers could use that but... it's there if they can.

Imo, something like a National Library should be in every faction capital that has all the ingame information possible available, and crafting stations should have note-taking capability built into them and available when used as default.

All the information ever necessary or desirable for players should be available in-game by default.

The current state of game design is like having cars invented, but you still need to whip them with buggy whips to make them work.

Games designed by people educated in game design where the curriculum is designed by people who never played games.

HyekAr

Fikkan wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

Fikkan wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

Hi,

there is a lot of recipe, diagrams, etc in the game.
what if there would be a catalogue book, which I could open anytime i need to check what i need for the crafting.

i imagine it in this way: like the reading lore book, with several marks on laterral, with units : FOOD, FORNITURE, REAGENTS
and once u re in that unit you can change pages to find: SEATS, and different type of seats (motly recepe I found in the game)

this would be very comfortable to check everytime i need to know something, quanties, ingredients, etc

Something like this may help in the meantime...

Character and Guild Database.
https://www.eso-database.com/en/

If you use the gizmo available for download and install, it updates every time you log off.

Thanks bro for sharing, but the thing is I cant install addons(even if I would, why? I mean tge game itself should provide this things) but I need a feature because it is really crazy.. remember what i have to collect for crafting or writing it on a papel(which i am not willing to do.. bcz i am playing a game not making a doctoral tesis)🤣🤣🤣

I agree with you. I was just attempting to help you in the now. That gizmo, btw, isn't an addon, it's a small app you load onto your computer that collects the data when you log off and uploads it to that website. I don't know if consolers could use that but... it's there if they can.

Imo, something like a National Library should be in every faction capital that has all the ingame information possible available, and crafting stations should have note-taking capability built into them and available when used as default.

All the information ever necessary or desirable for players should be available in-game by default.

The current state of game design is like having cars invented, but you still need to whip them with buggy whips to make them work.

Games designed by people educated in game design where the curriculum is designed by people who never played games.

Like old times when you buy a car and need to buy a cd-player

HyekAr

vsrs_au wrote: »

HyekAr wrote: »

So some ppl can code things devs cant..?

In defence of the devs: it's not that they can't code these features we want, it's that there probably aren't enough devs to spend the time on it. That's why it's good (for PC platform players only, of course) to have non-ZoS devs to provide these features.

As a dev, I'm used to always being forced to limit what I add to a software feature, due to lack of schedule time. It's just the way the industry works, because software companies try to deliver the most features possible but in the least time, in order to be competitive with other companies.

Well i think the same, that probably the need more hands, but well this is smthing (I think) important small details:

1.Recibe book/or global item(but I understand that this required much more time)
2.Day Night bar
3. Also would be very cool (for pvp as much) having penetration bar.. so everytime someone cast penetration or the penetration hit, so we coyld see timings to avoid the attack better (something like shield bar in destiny2)