Another Low population bonus disaster

Caelnir
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As title says this is just another low population complaint about it. Those 3 screenshots are taken at the same time by me. Don't you think there is something wrong going on with this?

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Aldmeri are just winning by not participating at all. Even Daggerfall Covenant has been fighting more for their points than them. Yet it is ALWAYS yellows who walks by with low pop bonus and gets 2nd spot easily by just being absent. I am not saying remove it but this has to be re-adjusted. If we left the map like this with thinking we are winning. We would lose at the end of campaign.
  • madrab73
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    Caelnir wrote: »
    As title says this is just another low population complaint about it. Those 3 screenshots are taken at the same time by me. Don't you think there is something wrong going on with this?

    M4eVMrr.png
    3JCo2jQ.png
    GrEuBx2.png

    Aldmeri are just winning by not participating at all. Even Daggerfall Covenant has been fighting more for their points than them. Yet it is ALWAYS yellows who walks by with low pop bonus and gets 2nd spot easily by just being absent. I am not saying remove it but this has to be re-adjusted. If we left the map like this with thinking we are winning. We would lose at the end of campaign.

    That's how it works. If you are in campaign playing the game actively you won't get the bonus. Make sure players are leaving campaign before logging off too.
  • Caelnir
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    madrab73 wrote: »
    That's how it works. If you are in campaign playing the game actively you won't get the bonus. Make sure players are leaving campaign before logging off too.

    I am aware how it works. I am pissed off about how OP it is. I have been PvP for hours on both sides to make sure we get enough points at the end of campaign. And we are still losing by points even tho we captured all emperor keeps + 5 scrolls. (and same population as you can see in screenshot) Yet AD is still winning by not being there at all while I am spending hours into this.

  • LarsS
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    For years payers have asked ZOS to weight the campaign points with the number of players online. Then the under population bonus won't be needed. The campaign would then largely be decided when payers are online, which would more fair to all.
    GM for The Daggerfall Authority EU PC
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    Where is that even? PC? Xbox? Eu? Na?
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Zabagad
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    Where is that even? PC? Xbox? Eu? Na?

    PC EU
    PC EU (noCP AD) Grey/Grau AD
    Please raise the population caps.
    @ZOS - Convert the heal on "Hardened Ward" into a HoT pls.
  • tonyblack
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    Why do you surprised? AD have constant low pop for months now because most of them migrated to GH. So not a bug. This map looks like a example of some emperor nightcap where I assume blues had some players online and tried to defend while yellows logged off hours ago and was ignored. It was same story two months ago if you swap EP and DC. Small portion of AD that still plays on this campaign log off early from what I saw and system registered low pop for that reason.
  • Pauwer
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    At the moment on ps it is 1 bar each factiob with dc having 2 different low pop bonuses. The thing is so broken.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    I thought most people play Ravenwatch nowadays on PC EU,no matter what faction.
    I play on GH and population seems good,the only ones who are low on population are DC there.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • TequilaFire
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    I am going to throw this out here so everyone understands how underdog works.

    Underdog Bonuses
    At certain times, one of the alliances may qualify for an "underdog bonus" during a particular campaign. These are applied when an alliance has a consistently low population of players entering that campaign, or if an alliance has a significantly lower score than the others. Underdog bonuses are re-evaluated every 30 minutes, and grant a 100% increase to Alliance Point gain for the duration. The population and scoring bonus takes all the samples its collected over a period of time, and then on each evaluation period, measures the current score against the average of the prior samples, then applies bonuses as needed. An alliance that is currently benefiting from an underdog bonus will display one of the following icons on the scoreboard:

    Population Underdog — Scoring bonus ×4, AP bonus 100%
    Score Underdog — Scoring bonus ×3, AP bonus 100%
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Campaigns
    Edited by TequilaFire on October 11, 2021 1:23PM
  • West93
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    During prime time EP and DC are pop locked while AD remain 2 bars.

    This screenshot was taken around past midnight when everyone logged off and AD still had the low pop bonus from previous hour.

  • vms11934
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    madrab73 wrote: »

    That's how it works. If you are in campaign playing the game actively you won't get the bonus. Make sure players are leaving campaign before logging off too.

    Just so I understand correctly, if I log off in Cyro, my toon still counts towards the population total? If so, can opposing factions log alts into another faction (on an unlocked server) then log them out, thereby artificially increasing the population of that faction?
  • FangOfTheTwoMoons
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    LarsS wrote: »
    For years payers have asked ZOS to weight the campaign points with the number of players online. Then the under population bonus won't be needed. The campaign would then largely be decided when payers are online, which would more fair to all.

    The game cant even handle people using skills at the same time. Do we really think the servers could handle something like that?

    Would be nice tho
  • Caelnir
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    West93 wrote: »
    During prime time EP and DC are pop locked while AD remain 2 bars.

    This screenshot was taken around past midnight when everyone logged off and AD still had the low pop bonus from previous hour.

    It was taken in the middle of day 13pm
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