Housing Condition

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Rudrani
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Give us "improve" option on housing.

Houses will have a few different "conditions"

- ruined
- abandoned
- old
- new
- glorious

Glorious houses will have no debris, and no potholes or pockmarks or warn out paint on walls.
Ruined houses will have max of those things.

AAAAALLLLLSOOOO

If you really wanna making housing great, give us a painting station allowing us to apply the dyes we know as paints to the walls
  • merpins
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    I mean sure that'd be cool, though it would require a lot of work to get all houses to have that. Plus if you want a house to look disheveled, you can do it yourself with time and effort put in. I could also see this as a way for ZoS to monetize it like the loot boxes, but more like a card game, with rarity of houses (commons to rares) and then the conditions being like rarity on top of that, with worse conditions being easier to unlock than the glorious version. Which would be a new loot box system that you'd have to pay for. Which would be the only way I can see them doing something like this, and none of us want to buy loot box houses when they're already so expensive.

    Yeah houses could use some love to some extent, but locking houses behind random release windows, and houses themselves having horribly low furnishing caps need to be addressed first (the second more than the first).
  • NettleCarrier
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    There's so much that could be done to print more money for housing, focusing on the item cap is my biggest concern right now.
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  • Rudrani
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    Just make a new one with it at least
  • Danikat
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    I mean sure that'd be cool, though it would require a lot of work to get all houses to have that. Plus if you want a house to look disheveled, you can do it yourself with time and effort put in. I could also see this as a way for ZoS to monetize it like the loot boxes, but more like a card game, with rarity of houses (commons to rares) and then the conditions being like rarity on top of that, with worse conditions being easier to unlock than the glorious version. Which would be a new loot box system that you'd have to pay for. Which would be the only way I can see them doing something like this, and none of us want to buy loot box houses when they're already so expensive.

    Yeah houses could use some love to some extent, but locking houses behind random release windows, and houses themselves having horribly low furnishing caps need to be addressed first (the second more than the first).

    It's relatively easy to make a house that starts off in good condition look run down or abandoned by adding appropriate furnishings. It's nearly impossible to make one that starts off damaged look nice.

    I didn't buy Lucky Cat Landing because all the interior walls look like they need to be scrubbed with bleach and then repainted or varnished before it would be safe to live there. Since that's not possible the only solution would be to waste a lot of furnishing slots covering every wall in tapestries or other objects.

    There's other houses which have piles of rubble or damaged sections that aren't furnishings so they can't be removed, the best you can do is find something to put over it and hope it's not too noticeable.

    Having said that I agree it would be a lot of work to offer multiple versions of every house (personally I'd settle for just two - with damage and without damage) and I think ZOS still have a policy that they will never change cash shop items after they're released unless they're bugged because they don't want to annoy people who already bought it and have them asking for refunds.

    Personally I'd settle for making all new houses going forward look habitable and continuing to offer furnishings which can be used to make it look run down, because as I said above that's easier for players to do than going the other way.
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  • zaria
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    This broken decoration in the Reaper March main house has annoyed this one for years.
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  • Treeshka
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    Well to be honest just look at the walls of Khajiit themed houses, and some of the other houses that has wooden floor. Sometimes a piece of wood sticks out from the surface and blocks many thing to be put on it.

    It is beyond annoying when you try to put a carpet on that broken wooden floor, because that piece of wood will stick out from the carpet itself if you align it to the surface, and when you try to cover that sticking wood with carpet the carpet itself will look like it is flying.

    I agree that housing in this game needs a bit of overhaul, allowing players to further customize their house like changing walls, floor and other similar stuff without using existing furnishings. I mean of course you can use a wooden structure or some other furnishing to cover the walls and floors but that does not look good in long term.
  • Eshkerigal
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    I'd like to see option to switch between night and day and change weather in our houses.
  • magnusthorek
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    I'd sure love to have my Sweetwater Cascade changed to use at least Northern Elsweyr styles, after all, it's near the aqueduct, instead of the hideous Southern Elsweyr that's not even close to Eastern Blackwood (where Sweetwater is located)
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  • katanagirl1
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    Lucky Cat...terrace views of burned houses. No thanks.

    Reminds me of the realtor advice, buy the cheapest house in the nicest neighborhood, not the nicest house on the cheapest neighborhood.
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  • Coatmagic
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    At the very least we should be able to remove the broken items, because yeah, they suck.

  • Wolf_Eye
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    I want it to be an option, if possible, because I'm one of the people who likes having the broken parts. I feel like it looks more lived in. I don't want ZOS to go back and force us all to have eerily pristine versions of houses, especially since I spent so much money on them. I spent so much money on many crown exclusive houses; I expect them to stay the same way they looked when I purchased them, I should get what I was promised.

    So having it as an option is better. Maybe make it a toggle in the housing editor that will change the architecture to make it look new.

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    Edited by Wolf_Eye on October 22, 2021 2:47PM
  • SilverBride
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    zaria wrote: »
    This broken decoration in the Reaper March main house has annoyed this one for years.
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    I "fixed" the broken pillar that fell and it actually looks pretty good, but it does annoy me that I can't clean up the debris.

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    After
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    Edited by SilverBride on October 22, 2021 3:52PM
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  • Raideen
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    I always try to build my homes as if they would take place in game. To this extent, the homes with flaws and ruins does not bother me. I would guess to say its done to add to the atmosphere. Perfect 3D environments are often devoid of character and feel flat, stale.
  • Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo
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    Like an approach from Blood and Wine, the Witcher 3?

    The house could be quest related:

    - Accumulate gold or materials to renovate
    - Armour mannequins
    - Weapon plaques
    - A Majordome
    - A real garden with usable plants (medicinal/poison)

    It would be a mix between Hearthfire (Skyrim) and Blood and Wine (TW3)

    Sounds kinda fun ;)

    I'd love house defence mechanics too, but I think I'm dreaming.
    - Like in Sykrim...someone get's kidnapped, attacked, robbed etc...
    Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on October 22, 2021 4:56PM
  • Destai
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    Not a bad idea, it'd be nice to clean up debris and other noise. That's why some of the emptier plots are more rewarding, you can start from scratch. But I do like finding a place and feeling like I've hunkered down in it.
    Edited by Destai on October 22, 2021 6:15PM
  • Ippokrates
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    Youyouz06 wrote: »
    Like an approach from Blood and Wine, the Witcher 3?

    The house could be quest related:

    - Accumulate gold or materials to renovate
    - Armour mannequins
    - Weapon plaques
    - A Majordome
    - A real garden with usable plants (medicinal/poison)

    It would be a mix between Hearthfire (Skyrim) and Blood and Wine (TW3)

    Sounds kinda fun ;)

    I'd love house defence mechanics too, but I think I'm dreaming.
    - Like in Sykrim...someone get's kidnapped, attacked, robbed etc...

    Yeah, i also thought about mannequins, with option for putting on them our in game sets, instead of storage - that would be fun ;)
  • Mandragora
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    Rudrani wrote: »
    Give us "improve" option on housing.

    Houses will have a few different "conditions"

    - ruined
    - abandoned
    - old
    - new
    - glorious

    Glorious houses will have no debris, and no potholes or pockmarks or warn out paint on walls.
    Ruined houses will have max of those things.

    AAAAALLLLLSOOOO

    If you really wanna making housing great, give us a painting station allowing us to apply the dyes we know as paints to the walls

    Did you buy Lucky Cat and then regret it? :) That is the only house where I would ask who and why bought it :p
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  • LadySinflower
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    TBH I've never understood why ZOS seems to believe that every house needs to look not only old but broken. I do understand that the game world is somewhat of a medieval setting, or at least represents a (fictional of course) time period a few centuries before our IRL time period. But even in such a setting craftspeople would take more pride in their work, wouldn't they? Home owners would repair damage instead of leaving holes, stains, or things sticking out of walls, floors, or ceilings. At the very least people would keep things clean to the best of their ability. I really hate it when they release something that would be really nice looking if it wasn't in a total state of disrepair. Look at the carpets/rugs in the Leyawiin home goods vendor as an example. They would be really pretty in decent shape, but all three are so worn and threadbare that they look awful. At least give us the choice of buying the old looking one or one in better shape. I'm not buying those ratty looking rugs for any of my houses. I know not everything looks broken or dirty, but enough housing stuff does that I think it's strange. Is it just me?
  • Ravensilver
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    Lucky Cat Landing would be *such* a lovely house, if it didn't give me a virtual asthma attack, every time I walk in there. I can *smell* the mold and mildew! >.<

    I've thought about trying to replace all the wall - especially since we now have all those lovely Leyawiin walls... but it would completely change the feel of the house...

    Could we get a non-moldy update, perhaps? *__*
  • Wolf_Eye
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    Lucky Cat Landing would be *such* a lovely house, if it didn't give me a virtual asthma attack, every time I walk in there. I can *smell* the mold and mildew! >.<

    I've thought about trying to replace all the wall - especially since we now have all those lovely Leyawiin walls... but it would completely change the feel of the house...

    Could we get a non-moldy update, perhaps? *__*

    I will be one to admit, that as much as I like many of my worn in houses, Lucky Cat Landing does look like it takes it a bit too far.

    Don't get me wrong; I absolutely LOVE my Grand Psijic Villa (which I had to pay crowns for because I was not here when it was free) and how it has occasional broken temple pieces. I don't want those to be fixed because I'm rather attached to them. When I was talking before about having a toggable, I was really thinking about places like this and Shalidor's realm (where the brokenness of it is part of it's appeal to me).

    But I noticed people talking about Lucky Cat, and I do have to agree with them here. You got places like Lucky Cat, and also the inside of Potentate's Retreat, which looks like it's falling apart and filled with mold. It seems a little strange to live in and is probably the reason I never felt like getting either of them. A little broken column here and there is nice, a dent in the floor has character, but completely ruined walls is a little too much. Slums are one thing, but Lucky Cat and especially Potentates seem a bit too big to be considered housing for the poorest members of Elsweyr.
    Edited by Wolf_Eye on October 22, 2021 9:33PM
  • K9002
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    Mandragora wrote: »
    That is the only house where I would ask who and why bought it :p
    I bought it, it's currently my main house. I was inspired by Auberic Dufont as a tourist, general Breton snobbery (my main character is a Breton) and a book about history of slumming. Poverty or misery tourism is very much a thing and Senchal happens to be one massive slum with a palace in the middle. Once I will find a good main residence for my character, Lucky Cat will become one of the summer houses. I never intended for it to be a permanent residence, I just wanted a bit of real privacy. Also I don't think it was supposed to be moldy. The growths on the walls look like lichens to me, most of them are not poisonous.
  • Cireous
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    Wallpaper! *wants :blush:
  • Lady_Lindel
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    I mean sure that'd be cool, though it would require a lot of work to get all houses to have that. Plus if you want a house to look disheveled, you can do it yourself with time and effort put in. I could also see this as a way for ZoS to monetize it like the loot boxes, but more like a card game, with rarity of houses (commons to rares) and then the conditions being like rarity on top of that, with worse conditions being easier to unlock than the glorious version. Which would be a new loot box system that you'd have to pay for. Which would be the only way I can see them doing something like this, and none of us want to buy loot box houses when they're already so expensive.

    Yeah houses could use some love to some extent, but locking houses behind random release windows, and houses themselves having horribly low furnishing caps need to be addressed first (the second more than the first).

    I kind of think that, the minute people start to point out why Zos can't do something, they are unwittingly accepting the limitations. Maybe instead we need to ask 'why not'.
  • LadyLethalla
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    I would prefer more nice furniture options. Vampire and Alinor are nice but I prefer my furniture without pointy bits. I do not like the rustic, unsanded or yardsale choices that most racial styles have. Who'd want to put up tattered curtains?!
    Also, need more soft furnishings; I think it's only Khajiit and Redguards that like cushions? More clothing options too like the Leyawiin socks - to make a house looked lived-in and not a museum.
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  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    Mandragora wrote: »

    Did you buy Lucky Cat and then regret it? :) That is the only house where I would ask who and why bought it :p

    I bought it and made a thieves house out of it.
    Also the view outside is absolutely stunning,the sunrise there is one of the prettiest ones in the whole game.
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    Make the last stage "In Danger of Collapsing" (IDOC) and when the house collapses we can go loot it (PvP enabled)

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