Character Slot Poll!

joseayalac

I don't need them but think they should be added for those that do.

ZOS recently stated that they will implement another kind of character storage. In order to optimize the use of the server, accounts that haven't logged in in some time, will be moved to a slower, secondary storage. When you log back in again after a long period, you'll get a 5 minute loading screen while your characters are moved to the actual game server.

So probably having more than 18 will impact the amount of data that the servers must store and handle. Although this may not be noticeable.

Ratzkifal

Other

joseayalac wrote: »

ZOS recently stated that they will implement another kind of character storage. In order to optimize the use of the server, accounts that haven't logged in in some time, will be moved to a slower, secondary storage. When you log back in again after a long period, you'll get a 5 minute loading screen while your characters are moved to the actual game server.

So probably having more than 18 will impact the amount of data that the servers must store and handle. Although this may not be noticeable.

I thought it was not "accounts", but individual characters. You can have all of your characters except your main in cold storage if you didn't touch them for a long time. That's how I understood it. I believe they said it was around 6 months of inactivity before that would happen to any given character.
To me that sounds like they could give us unlimited character slots for free without it impacting performance as any inactive characters would simply be moved to cold storage.

amapola76

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

kargen27 wrote: »

I don't care other than we have been told it could have an affect on performance. There are options available to go beyond eighteen. You can play the other server or purchase another copy of the game.

See, this is exactly why I call *** on the performance excuse, though. If I have one account with twenty characters, or two accounts with 18 on one and two on the other, what is the difference performance-wise?

There's very clearly a difference in income to the studio, though; that's quite obviously the real reason.

whitecrow

No 18 is enough, just repurpose/delete!

What on earth do people do with 18 characters??

Elsonso

Other

Ratzkifal wrote: »

joseayalac wrote: »

ZOS recently stated that they will implement another kind of character storage. In order to optimize the use of the server, accounts that haven't logged in in some time, will be moved to a slower, secondary storage. When you log back in again after a long period, you'll get a 5 minute loading screen while your characters are moved to the actual game server.

So probably having more than 18 will impact the amount of data that the servers must store and handle. Although this may not be noticeable.

I thought it was not "accounts", but individual characters.

Accounts, as I recall hearing it described.

coop500

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

whitecrow wrote: »

What on earth do people do with 18 characters??

A tank, healer, stam DPS and mag DPS on each class
If you wanna be nitpicky you can put healer and mag DPS together but that's still 3x6 = 18

Now you got PvP vs PvE, niche builds, vampire/werewolf, roleplay purposes and so on.

I would love to try a no class stam and mag character too.

I personally build characters from the ground up, they're not just 'class builds' but they have personality, goals, a purpose and a style/aesthetic, that's not something Armory can replace.
Buying another copy of ESO means buying/earning everything all over again, and that's not including collectables that are not able to be bought currently anymore.

Sylvermynx

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

whitecrow wrote: »

What on earth do people do with 18 characters??

Um. Mine (all 60 of them) are their own people, and they (me) do what their imperatives are. Every one of them is her/his own person, and they let me know what they want to do for fun....

DreamyLu

Other

"Other" for me.

For me the key point is: cost free or to be purchased at crown store? And my complete answer would be: I don't need more slots (I use 3 only), but I find good that limit is extended IF the slots are to be purchased at crown store (like it's the case in GW2 for example).
Reason: It's important that ZOS (like all other games companies) secure a regular income of cash, especially since ESO is an "old" game and needs a big budget to evolve. Additional slots are one of those things that will always be purchased.

EnerG

No 18 is enough, just repurpose/delete!

The only time i ever have 18 is during anniversary where I make fodder alts for boxes, i mean i have over 10 but playing any more than that is exhausting, if you want more than 18 for rp purposes id say just make another account, otherwise just use the armory system.

etchedpixels

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

EnerG wrote: »

The only time i ever have 18 is during anniversary where I make fodder alts for boxes, i mean i have over 10 but playing any more than that is exhausting, if you want more than 18 for rp purposes id say just make another account, otherwise just use the armory system.

You can get 36 without a new account providing you don't mind 18 on NA and 18 on EU. A lot of people don't seem to realize that unlike some of the other games one account covers both, although pretty much nothing is shared between the two servers.

Fennwitty

I don't need them but think they should be added for those that do.

I'd expect people making separate accounts and potentially having them logged in at the same time would be a bigger performance issue.

But I guess more accounts = better sounding PR.

Vhozek

Other

I wish the character slots were limited to the number of classes in the game because apparently, having many character slots, affects the quality of the server.

ArchangelIsraphel

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

Wanting more characters has nothing to do with optimizing builds or classes or anything. It has to do with wanting more space to make more RP characters without needing to pick and choose who I make. As it is, I only have 11 characters, I haven't even filled in the other 7 slots on my account, and I feel like I don't have enough slots to make all of the characters I would love to be able to play- not counting random character ideas I come up with on the fly.

But, I have no desire to make a second account, because all of my collectibles, crown store mounts, and other rare items are on this one. So the most I can hope for is that they at least up the amount to 20-25, which would make me feel like I have more room !

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I know not everyone uses them in this manner, but I believe one of the biggest causes of inflation in this game is that ability to simply print gold (not talking about gold mats) by doing writs on 18 toons. Being able to simply conjure 100k out of thin air in 30 minutes once a day is a huge driver of inflation. Is it the only reason inflation is rampant, of course not, but it is high on the list. As long as that persists, 18 is more than enough (coming from someone with 18 max level toons).

Crap I voted wrong. 18 is MORE than enough.

I don't think that is true. For one because only a handful of people actually have the discipline and patience to do all 7 writs on all their 18 characters every day. Yes you can become filthy rich and yes it would be a problem if everyone started doing it, but I doubt that would ever happen.
Also those writs are contributing towards deflation as well as they generate more upgrade materials and materials in general, which lowers material cost by increasing supply.

The real driving force behind inflation in this game is the lack of sufficient gold sinks. Every new feature removes gold sinks from the game. CP slottables mean you do not need to spend 3000 gold every time you want to switch CP. The armory means you do not have to spend gold to switch skills. Armor repair can be done with the free repair kits from writs or it can be reduced with CP slottables. While it made wayshrine recall costs pretty much pointless, housing was the only effective gold sink we have left, but since no new houses are being sold for gold other than a 1million gold home per year, the housing market has become saturated, making it ineffective as a gold sink.
The only thing in this game that gold can buy you are carry runs and crown store items from the crown exchange services and for both of these do not actually drain gold from the economy.

When will people realize that inflation is a two way street. You have to look at both gold supply into the game, and gold supply out of the game. Absolutely, this game needs better gold sinks. I will never argue otherwise. But gold coming into the game is just as important to the analysis of inflation. Making gold and Creating gold arent the same thing.

When I find a cool drop and sell it, yeah I personally make some gold, but no new gold was created. When you do writs, you are creating gold, in other words, now there is more total gold in Tamriel, and writs on multiple toons are the easiest way to do that.

I realize not everyone does writs on 18 toons, but I think that number is higher than you think, especially on PC. One of the most fundamental differences between Console and PC from an economic standpoint is the ability to do writs very quickly, and unsurprisingly, gold is worth MUCH less on PC than on console.

Yes, Mats are also created, which does put downward pressure on those specific mats, but when gold is created, it devalues the currency (inflation) across the board. Also, a lot of people that do writs, create and spend the gold, but hoard the mats. Sure it keeps that person out of the economy for said mats, potentially lowering demand (and price) specifically for those mats, but I believe the impact of gold creation far outweighs mat creation. If they were in balance, something like Dreugh Wax would cost the roughly the same on console as it does on PC, it doesn't, because they aren't. Gold created by doing writs drives inflation in a much greater magnitude than the downward pressure put on mat prices by creating mats.

If you shut of gold completely from writs, they would still be worth doing.

fizl101

No 18 is enough, just repurpose/delete!

lillybit wrote: »

fizl101 wrote: »

I don't think so, maybe now, but with update 32 where you can respec the same character with 2 free slots I think it will become less necessary

You can't do writs or dailies on a respec.

I just want 2 more because 18 bugs me, if there's gonna be a hard limit it should at least be a tidier number

I only do writs on 1 character and rarely do any dailies. I'm sure it is different for those who can use addons to make the writ work quick, but on console I don't fancy that. I do my writs then go exploring lol

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes! 18 isn't enough!

Araneae6537 wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

fizl101 wrote: »

I don't think so, maybe now, but with update 32 where you can respec the same character with 2 free slots I think it will become less necessary

You can't do writs or dailies on a respec.

I just want 2 more because 18 bugs me, if there's gonna be a hard limit it should at least be a tidier number

This always kind of cracks me up because I prefer prime numbers. Anything like time on the microwave, volume my alarm I always if given the choice use a prime number. Numbers that end with a zero are the worst!

I prefer numbers divisible by 3 or ideally 9 so I really can’t complain about 18 slots. 20 is a disagreeable number but 21 would be fine.

For this particular topic, I think the number of character slots should be divisible by the number of classes we have. 18 works just fine with 6 classes. I have to imagine, if we get another class, we will get more slots. My bet is we get 3. Until then, 18 is a fine number.