Should the reanimate ultimate revive you at the cost of the ultimate if you die with it slotted?

Tourettesin321

Artim_X

No?

Let's not give peeps more reasons to call necros P2W.

In all seriousness an important part of combat is being punished for not using a skill or ultimate in time.

Eternal Yokeda and the Phoenix set both lost the OG ability to prevent your death. ZOS clearly does not want this type of passive effect in the game.

Fennwitty

No?

It would be thematic for necromancer but problematic for the game's balance. Especially in PvP.

Enemies are coded to reset when the last player dies, even when solo. This would add a layer of complexity the game system probably can't handle by default.

Vevvev

No?

Sounds cool, and might not as problematic considering the revived Necro will be starved for resources, but in a group.... It's broken. Imagine a ball group that literally can't die. No thankyou.

Kuratius

There used to be two sets with a mechanic like that, but they were removed because people wpuld just unequip them while they were on cooldown.

Officially the reason was that they were used to cheese achievements and mechanics, but they weren't actually used nearly enough for that to have a real impact. I still weep for the phoenix set, for it is now useless.

Syrpynt

No?

Kuratius wrote: »

Officially the reason was that they were used to cheese achievements and mechanics, but they weren't actually used nearly enough for that to have a real impact. I still weep for the phoenix set, for it is now useless.

The immortal Yokedan Phoeniiixxxxxx!
Yet another reason why you aren't allowed to change gear in combat.

WabanakiWarrior

No?

Short answer, hell no. That mechanic would be way too strong.

That being said though, this post made me think of an idea.
What if the effect lasted a couple seconds on the ground and if you die in that time period, you can revive? Maybe a really short window like 3 seconds. I don't think that would be crazy strong. And as an attacker, you have the chance to stop attacking when you see a necro drop that ult.

Meh, just re-read that. Would probably still be way too strong. I can imagine kamikaze cheesing the hell out of it

Vaoh

No?

I think this could be kind of interesting as a PvE-only passive effect.

“At 500 Ultimate: After you have remained dead for 5 seconds, this ultimate will grant you the option to revive yourself at the cost of 500 Ultimate.”

Losing all utility/damage from your ultimate slots to have a potentially useless ability is fine.

This kind of thing could never be allowed in PvP though.

Red_Feather

It would be cool if there was a 2 second delay after casting it that triggered the revive. That way you could time it to revive yourself. With really good timing.

Syrpynt

No?

Red_Feather wrote: »

It would be cool if there was a 2 second delay after casting it that triggered the revive. That way you could time it to revive yourself. With really good timing.

So like, a better version of the Psijic Ult? Still wouldn't be allowed in PvP because a whole group of necros doing this would break the game. lol

Flangdoodle

Yes?

But only if it revives you at your faction's main gate. Last thing we need is SWB group members resing themselves. If you want to use it on yourself it should not only cost ultimate, but separate you from your group or the battle you were in. Otherwise the ulti-building builds would just keep resing themselves ad infinitum. It should also have a separate timer like the camp timer that prevents you from using it again w/n a reasonable period of time. You want an "Oh s**t!" button? Fine, but it'll cost you.

Red_Feather

Syrpynt wrote: »

Red_Feather wrote: »

It would be cool if there was a 2 second delay after casting it that triggered the revive. That way you could time it to revive yourself. With really good timing.

So like, a better version of the Psijic Ult? Still wouldn't be allowed in PvP because a whole group of necros doing this would break the game. lol

Panacea is many times more effective because it keeps you or allies from dying, continues to heal and buffs for 1/3 the cost.

I was only suggesting it because of a skill I have seen in guild wars because of how interesting it was.
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lively_Was_Naomei
And guild wars pvp was one of the best. That skill didn't break the game.

Rakdos

Yes?

with 10 minutes cooldowns and 10-20% resources after revive...YES

I think it would be a cool idea, and 10 minutes cooldown will make the this ult pretty balenced

just like the old phoenix set

KhajiitLivesMatter

Yes?

for all guys who voted no and argumenting it being to op in pvp : most strong necros need there ult to do dmg its not a normal skills its a pretty expensive ult

so if u cant use ur ult u have WAY less dmg than normaly

sounds pretty balanced to me
u get more tanky and lose a lot of dmg

Hotdog_23

No?

Used to be certain sets that revive a player if they died and people would use them for no death runs. ZOS removed them and I don't see this mechanic to be returning ever but never say never.

Amottica

No?

Artim_X wrote: »

Let's not give peeps more reasons to call necros P2W.

In all seriousness an important part of combat is being punished for not using a skill or ultimate in time.

Eternal Yokeda and the Phoenix set both lost the OG ability to prevent your death. ZOS clearly does not want this type of passive effect in the game.

Both the concept of combat and the likely view Zenimax has on this are great points to bring up.

WraithShadow13

Yes?

I think it should but ONLY you. So when you're alive and use it, it's able to get multiple people but when you're dead, you can use it but it only works on you and costs extra.

AinSoph

Yes?

If it could, it should only revive yourself while disabling ult gen / apply timidity.

BulletMagnetX

An alternative could be reviving your body as an AI zombie with some of your abilities and stats for a short while.