Dark Conversion pulling you off of keep walls.

Baphomet

Chains were changed back in the day because of this, but now we have DC doing the same thing - even from a far higher elevation.

Is this intentional or a glitch that will be changed?

@ZOS_GinaBruno what's the word on this?

NoxiousBlight

Yeah. DC will be fine damage wise with the PTS nerfs.

But having it pull you off walls has really ruined the Cyro experience. They really need to fix it so it can’t pull people down.

divnyi

NoxiousBlight wrote: »

Yeah. DC will be fine damage wise with the PTS nerfs.

But having it pull you off walls has really ruined the Cyro experience. They really need to fix it so it can’t pull people down.

They nerf range from 12m to 10m. I guess they think it would be enough?

Marcus_Aurelius

Is working as intended. Not a single word on patch notes.
Peace.

NordSwordnBoard

One giant problem is the "horseshoe" part of keeps & outposts. It pulls you to the OUTER edge of the inner ring, so that you have to manage a jump back amidst all the other stuff going on.

If you block cast heals/shields, wait for the proc to end, you can then jump back over the edge. Oils and other siege can be engaged instead of jumping (x) so be careful. This is really busted - I can deal with the other cheeses of it - but going through a little wall and being put into that position during a siege is wrong.

Jackey

The pull is the biggest issue with DC.
People would still be spamming this set if it only had the pull.

ResidentContrarian

Don't forget it keeps pulling too, so there is no escape even if you do roll out of it. Better running...

And multi-proc from things like volcanic rune...

Speaking of that, why exactly does the set need to pull more than once, if it won't respect CC immunity?

divnyi

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

Don't forget it keeps pulling too, so there is no escape even if you do roll out of it. Better running...

And multi-proc from things like volcanic rune...

Speaking of that, why exactly does the set need to pull more than once, if it won't respect CC immunity?

It doesn't pull more than once. You might be rolling too fast, before the first pull.

Baphomet

The pull is also messed up in different ways that what is mentioned in the OP.

For instance, it will pull you out of your dragonleap mid-air, thus cancelling it and negating the damage, and sometimes it completely ignores blocking and CC immunity.

And yes, it will also sometimes ignore LoS and pull you through corners and thin walls.

It certainly needs a rework in many ways.

Tommy_The_Gun

Baphomet wrote: »

Chains were changed back in the day because of this, but now we have DC doing the same thing - even from a far higher elevation.

Is this intentional or a glitch that will be changed?

@ZOS_GinaBruno what's the word on this?

Same with Warden skill that can "pull you" towards target. Players were using that to get more of their allies on the walls. Very similar case with NB's Teleport Strike. Due to lag it was possible to target someone who was going through keep's door and as a result - "teleport" inside keep.

^ All of this was fixed / patched at some point.

But DC set now enables every one to do that stuff again. Things like that are for 100% not the intended way for them to work.

EF321

As an anti-zerg set, it should only do pull if there is X amount of people in range. That is it.

I don't like getting pulled off walls either, but seriously, if there is like 10 bow spammers on the edge of the wall, I'll be fine with them being pulled down. But if there are two guys on sieges? No. No pull at all.

Starlight_Knight

Its all intended, reguardless of what might be said,
Think about it, evey patch a new op proc set comes out over performing by a wide margin.. The player base goes mad for it because its op, just look how much Dark Convergence is selling for.
At this point you're gimping yourself by not running D,C.

Yea so what its pulling people off walls its over tuned deliberatly.

But rest assured it will be nerfed into the ground one day in a few months just as every other op proc set before it.

I guarantee that before the set was even launched they knew the op stats and the nerfed stats of this set.. its a money making science.

EF321

Starlight_Knight wrote: »

Its all intended, reguardless of what might be said,
Think about it, evey patch a new op proc set comes out over performing by a wide margin.. The player base goes mad for it because its op, just look how much Dark Convergence is selling for.
At this point you're gimping yourself by not running D,C.

Yea so what its pulling people off walls its over tuned deliberatly.

But rest assured it will be nerfed into the ground one day in a few months just as every other op proc set before it.

I guarantee that before the set was even launched they knew the op stats and the nerfed stats of this set.. its a money making science.

How is zos making money with set that comes into your mailbox while you are playing pvp?

ThePedge

The pull off keeps is fantastic. They should revert chains and Ambush/Lotus Fan so they can be used off/onto keep walls too